Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 22:03     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
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Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.


Spending $75 million on a new elementary school in the RB-corridor just so an immersion school with dwindling Spanish-speaking enrollment can stay put doesn't sound like the best use of our tax dollars either.


Even if there was a site, which there is not. Dawson’s Terrace is not viable in the 10 year timeframe (or ever). Building up on Key is not viable. Where is this magical new school going to go?


PP here - that's my point. It'd be a futile waste of money just to accommodate a tiny sliver of the school population.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 22:00     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.

3 months is plenty of time. Spending more time is wasting taxpayer dollars.


Not if it results in better decisions.


Infinite APS parents with infinite time still couldn’t come up a boundary proposal that pleases everyone. There will always be people claiming the results aren’t good enough.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:56     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.

3 months is plenty of time. Spending more time is wasting taxpayer dollars.


Not if it results in better decisions.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:56     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.


Spending $75 million on a new elementary school in the RB-corridor just so an immersion school with dwindling Spanish-speaking enrollment can stay put doesn't sound like the best use of our tax dollars either.


Yep. I’m so tired of the Key people refusing to acknowledge that building a school in Rosslyn means not building elsewhere. Probably on the west end of the Pike. We don’t have unlimited funds for new construction or major expansions. Making Key neighborhood helps (not solves, but certainly helps) the capacity problem in the NE so that construction can then focus on the capacity problem elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:56     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.


Spending $75 million on a new elementary school in the RB-corridor just so an immersion school with dwindling Spanish-speaking enrollment can stay put doesn't sound like the best use of our tax dollars either.


Even if there was a site, which there is not. Dawson’s Terrace is not viable in the 10 year timeframe (or ever). Building up on Key is not viable. Where is this magical new school going to go?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:55     Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

I think there are probably a handful of families who may have logistical issues around public transportation/walkability. One thing the wealthy and outraged could consider is carpooling/dropping students off on their way home. I know that I have helped other parents and have been helped when I was in a bind. If these communities are really strong and committed to equity among their families it should be easy to set up.


right- there's actually a variety of ways to solve this particular problem- buses to school events, carpooling, extended day at 'neighborhood schools with transportation. APS policy actually already provides for paying for taxi's home for ill students whose parents cannot afford to transport them- https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/AZ6PE26430E1/$file/E-5.1%20PIP-1%20Pupil%20Transportation.pdf
the problem is- the lobby of parents who are throwing up this as a barrier don't want to solve the problem, they want to throw up a barrier in an attempt to stop the move.


Why should the families with logistical issues have to beg for carpooling assistance, when it isn't what they signed up for when they enrolled their kid in kindergarten? Extended day at 'neighborhood schools with transportation would be amazing, but we know that APS can't be counted on for any promises. Many extended day programs are over capacity and have waitlists.
Many parents lobbying are saying this process has been rushed, and is not considering the ways in which two option schools being affected here serve minority students.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:55     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.

3 months is plenty of time. Spending more time is wasting taxpayer dollars.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:53     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.


Spending $75 million on a new elementary school in the RB-corridor just so an immersion school with dwindling Spanish-speaking enrollment can stay put doesn't sound like the best use of our tax dollars either.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:48     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.


Or face the reality that more seats are simply needed in the area. Better utilization of county resources is not shuffling entire schools to different buildings and making the decision to do this in 3 months. This is your taxpayer money too.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:44     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.




So instead move neighborhood kids all over the place so Key can continue to attract 35 Spanish speaking K students every year? Sounds fair.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:42     Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the number of wealthy parents, who stand there, alleging that 1) APS is ignoring the data and 2) low income people need transit accessible schools b/c they rely on the bus to get to school- displays an amazing level of lack of self-awareness.
The best data- shows that virtually no one uses transit to get their kids to school. You want a data based decision? This 'talking point' is totally irrelevant and basically false.

I think there are probably a handful of families who may have logistical issues around public transportation/walkability. One thing the wealthy and outraged could consider is carpooling/dropping students off on their way home. I know that I have helped other parents and have been helped when I was in a bind. If these communities are really strong and committed to equity among their families it should be easy to set up.


right- there's actually a variety of ways to solve this particular problem- buses to school events, carpooling, extended day at 'neighborhood schools with transportation. APS policy actually already provides for paying for taxi's home for ill students whose parents cannot afford to transport them- https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/AZ6PE26430E1/$file/E-5.1%20PIP-1%20Pupil%20Transportation.pdf
the problem is- the lobby of parents who are throwing up this as a barrier don't want to solve the problem, they want to throw up a barrier in an attempt to stop the move.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:41     Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Watching the recording now. Only on the third speaker, but I’m going to say that yelling at the SB that they’re acting in bad faith isn’t going to win many supporters.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:40     Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

Neighborhood Key will be integrated because of the neighborhood, Immersion at ATS will be integrated because of the location and program, and ATS at McKinley will be waaay more diverse than neighborhood McKinley. Moving schools creates an additional diverse neighborhood school vs no moves.


Escuela Key is already diverse, ATS is already diverse. Drawing boundaries across Rt 50 could make McKinley diverse. No need to do this "lego block" shuffling and move 3 schools in the process.


Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:35     Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:the number of wealthy parents, who stand there, alleging that 1) APS is ignoring the data and 2) low income people need transit accessible schools b/c they rely on the bus to get to school- displays an amazing level of lack of self-awareness.
The best data- shows that virtually no one uses transit to get their kids to school. You want a data based decision? This 'talking point' is totally irrelevant and basically false.

I think there are probably a handful of families who may have logistical issues around public transportation/walkability. One thing the wealthy and outraged could consider is carpooling/dropping students off on their way home. I know that I have helped other parents and have been helped when I was in a bind. If these communities are really strong and committed to equity among their families it should be easy to set up.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2020 21:33     Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:the number of wealthy parents, who stand there, alleging that 1) APS is ignoring the data and 2) low income people need transit accessible schools b/c they rely on the bus to get to school- displays an amazing level of lack of self-awareness.
The best data- shows that virtually no one uses transit to get their kids to school. You want a data based decision? This 'talking point' is totally irrelevant and basically false.


That’s because wealthy, three car families driving down “Lee” Highway tell their kids to wave hi to the poors on the bus while singing “the wheels in the bus ....”