Anonymous wrote:http://dianeravitch.net/2014/04/23/who-wrote-the-common-core-standards-here-is-a-list/

Here is a major part of the problem.

This is an example of "guilt by association". "The standards are bad because they were written by people who have ties to testing companies."

However, the actual standards they came up with are fine, at least as far as I can see; I'm a teacher who has to use them to teach, and I like the standards.

So this argument is moot to me. I don't care who write them; they are good. Not only that, but repeatedly people have been asking those who oppose Common Core standards to state which standards they think are inappropriate, and no one has been able to point to very many. When you read articles about why people dislike Common Core State Standards, over and over again, they do NOT state any particular standard as being bad; they dislike certain worksheets, or the test questions, or the fact that Race to the Top has certain requirements.

All of this leads me to believe that this group that gathered together (whatever their expertise) actually managed to design some pretty reasonable standards.

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Also, did you ever hear the saying: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater?

You are making the assumption that the standards are good. You are also making the assumption that they stand alone. They do not. Now, I am making the assumption that you have something vested in this besides opinion.

Your assumption is incorrect.

Feel free to make the further assumption that I am lying.

When you believe that everybody who disagrees with you is either evil, ignorant, or on the take -- that's a problem.

Anonymous wrote:http://dianeravitch.net/2014/04/23/who-wrote-the-common-core-standards-here-is-a-list/

Here is a major part of the problem.

Please explain -- starting with what the problem is, specifically.

Also, did you ever hear the saying: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater?

You are making the assumption that the standards are good. You are also making the assumption that they stand alone. They do not. Now, I am making the assumption that you have something vested in this besides opinion.

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Or, perhaps, they understand that every action -- and also every inaction -- has unintended consequences, and therefore, rather than abolishing the Common Core standards, which are good, prefer to deal with the unintended consequences as they arise.

I disagree.
Also, did you ever hear the saying: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?

OK, you disagree.

Also, did you ever hear the saying: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater?

We can do this all day.

http://dianeravitch.net/2014/04/23/who-wrote-the-common-core-standards-here-is-a-list/

Here is a major part of the problem.

Or, perhaps, they understand that every action -- and also every inaction -- has unintended consequences, and therefore, rather than abolishing the Common Core standards, which are good, prefer to deal with the unintended consequences as they arise.

I disagree.
Also, did you ever hear the saying: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?

Anonymous wrote:I think the most people in favor of CC are well intended--but clueless. They just do not think of the unintended consequences.

Or, perhaps, they understand that every action -- and also every inaction -- has unintended consequences, and therefore, rather than abolishing the Common Core standards, which are good, prefer to deal with the unintended consequences as they arise.

I think the most people in favor of CC are well intended--but clueless. They just do not think of the unintended consequences.

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I proved it quite well actually. The information about the funding is right there in front of your face.

+1000

And, for the pro CC people on here--I hope you are aware that there is more than one poster on here against it. Sometimes, it seems like some of the responses don't realize that.

Also, please realize that some core skeptics are not "nutty extremists" but concerned citizens who may support other recent government initiatives, including universal healthcare.

I proved it quite well actually. The information about the funding is right there in front of your face.

+1000

And, for the pro CC people on here--I hope you are aware that there is more than one poster on here against it. Sometimes, it seems like some of the responses don't realize that.

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Go look up the answers to the questions I listed above. Look at the quotes. And if you still don't understand, do it again, and again, until you do.

No, if you had a problem with a specific standard, you could easily link to it, and explain what you felt was inappropriate about it. Since you don't do that, I understand that there are no problems with specific standards, you just oppose the funding.

DING DING DING!! You got it. You've been lied to. This was not a 'state initiative, given the funding, and the goal of common core is control and conform FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL. Which is what states are realizing now and are backing away from it.

My guess is (1) you are a progressive and (2) you are instrumental in foisting this on the American people.

You fail to prove your point.

I proved it quite well actually. The information about the funding is right there in front of your face. Lead a horse to water and all that...

Anonymous wrote:Another thing I find impressive is that this novel is (apparently) about a bullied high school student shooting up the high school, but the controversial part is p. 313, where the words "erection" and "semen" appear. And the rest of the book, about a high school shooting? Eh. Nothing to get upset about there.

Him forcing himself on her was pretty disturbing as well.

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Go look up the answers to the questions I listed above. Look at the quotes. And if you still don't understand, do it again, and again, until you do.

No, if you had a problem with a specific standard, you could easily link to it, and explain what you felt was inappropriate about it. Since you don't do that, I understand that there are no problems with specific standards, you just oppose the funding.

DING DING DING!! You got it. You've been lied to. This was not a 'state initiative, given the funding, and the goal of common core is control and conform FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL. Which is what states are realizing now and are backing away from it.

My guess is (1) you are a progressive and (2) you are instrumental in foisting this on the American people.

You fail to prove your point.

Anonymous wrote:And Baer's daughter speaks out:

“I just watched my father get arrested because he broke the two minute rule, at a board of education meeting,” she said. “This just shows that you resort to force at the first turn of conflict and I am appalled. So I don’t trust you.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/09/bold-14-year-old-girl-confronts-school-board-after-watching-her-dad-get-arrested-for-violating-two-minute-rule-i-dont-trust-you/

Watch the whole video. The man was a nut job.