Someone is hell bent on continuing to bring up that Lees Corner should be moved to Westfield. It’s comical at this point. It doesn’t make sense, it never made sense, and the idea was quickly dropped. Parts of Lees Corner are in walking distance of Chantilly. They aren’t moving.

It’s probably an RIO poster trying to deflect attention from the idea that Crossfield should be at Skyview. Now that makes sense!

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

Be specific. Which one do think comes close to the same discrepancy in distance?

Langley is obviously much worse as far as distance between neighborhoods, 14 or 15 miles. Oakton is very far distance between neighborhoods-Vienna to Herndon. Robinson is enormous.
There's nothing special about Westfield's boundaries in that sense. Lots of FCPS HS have areas very far from each other.

You don't get it Those all have neighborhoods that are fairly contiguous. Maybe a park or shopping center here and there. Not miles of div. Westfielision. But, clearly distances at Langley and Oakton are troubling.

Skyview area is not only distant from Westfield but from other neighborhoods.

Other high school zones have neighborhoods zoned to them that are not "fairly contiguous" but divided by industrial and commercial uses. There is nothing unique about the Westfield boundary. The zone does have continuous residential areas at the moment all along Sully Road. I don't see the relevance of the point you are trying to make.

you are arguing with that chantilly parent who is obsessed with the word "contiguous" and seems to think the airport location means her school shouldn't be sent to westfield, for some mysterious reason. she has a lot of strange ideas, like high school students should be able to walk on foot through every neighborhood zoned to a high school.

Anonymous wrote:Don't have time to address each. But I think Belvoir is outer edge of Mt Vernon. In any case there is a road that goes through it that covers far fewer miles than division at Westfield.

I don't think you can just drive through a military base for a short cut. I'm not familiar with that part of Fairfax though.

Don't have time to address each. But I think Belvoir is outer edge of Mt Vernon. In any case there is a road that goes through it that covers far fewer miles than division at Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

Be specific. Which one do think comes close to the same discrepancy in distance?

Langley is obviously much worse as far as distance between neighborhoods, 14 or 15 miles. Oakton is very far distance between neighborhoods-Vienna to Herndon. Robinson is enormous.
There's nothing special about Westfield's boundaries in that sense. Lots of FCPS HS have areas very far from each other.

You don't get it Those all have neighborhoods that are fairly contiguous. Maybe a park or shopping center here and there. Not miles of div. Westfielision. But, clearly distances at Langley and Oakton are troubling.

Skyview area is not only distant from Westfield but from other neighborhoods.

Other high school zones have neighborhoods zoned to them that are not "fairly contiguous" but divided by industrial and commercial uses. There is nothing unique about the Westfield boundary. The zone does have continuous residential areas at the moment all along Sully Road. I don't see the relevance of the point you are trying to make.

I don't understand how an airport is special or different when it comes to school boundaries compared to a large military base, a prison property, a large park or nature preserve, a highway, or a large commercial area. The County has all of these things within HS boundaries. I don't see the point being made.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

Be specific. Which one do think comes close to the same discrepancy in distance?

Langley is obviously much worse as far as distance between neighborhoods, 14 or 15 miles. Oakton is very far distance between neighborhoods-Vienna to Herndon. Robinson is enormous.
There's nothing special about Westfield's boundaries in that sense. Lots of FCPS HS have areas very far from each other.

You don't get it Those all have neighborhoods that are fairly contiguous. Maybe a park or shopping center here and there. Not miles of div. Westfielision. But, clearly distances at Langley and Oakton are troubling.

Skyview area is not only distant from Westfield but from other neighborhoods.

I agree that FCPS's failure to lay out clear, ranked priorities at the beginning of both processes created this hot mess of drafty drafts and multiple consultants. Decide what's most important and the decisions are much easier, based on facts, and you then have an objective matrix to deter politics and lobbying.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

No. Not like this. Not miles from the other neighborhoods.

This. Have you ever tried to get your kid who went to Floris to carpool with his friends, only to learn that they went to Virginia Run? I have.

There is nothing else like this in Fairfax County. Last time anyone looked there is NO other major international airport in boundary for an elementary school. Fairfax County has interactive maps. The massive chunk of Floris removed from a map shows up on Police Station coverage. IAD Dulles and City of Fairfax https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-police

Click on the community school maps https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-elementary-school

Floris has 2 SPAs that had less than 10 students each. Each should be Virginia Run/Stone/Westfield. Scenarios send them to Carson/Skyview. Area cut off by airport. Amazon data center 14501 Avion Parkway, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States .

2 consultants and FCPS staff missed Dulles Airport. Wegmans stayed at Cub Run/Franklin/Westfield with thru/brac. This consultant found Stone on the map. Cub Run spa adjacent to it got moved to Stone/Westfield in new scenarios 2 and 3.

Are you drunk or is this just stream of consciousness? This is fairly incomprehensible.

I think I understand what they are getting at but agree it could have been better written. I’m not familiar with the Cub Run Spa, for one thing.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

No. Not like this. Not miles from the other neighborhoods.

This. Have you ever tried to get your kid who went to Floris to carpool with his friends, only to learn that they went to Virginia Run? I have.

There is nothing else like this in Fairfax County. Last time anyone looked there is NO other major international airport in boundary for an elementary school. Fairfax County has interactive maps. The massive chunk of Floris removed from a map shows up on Police Station coverage. IAD Dulles and City of Fairfax https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-police

Click on the community school maps https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-elementary-school

Floris has 2 SPAs that had less than 10 students each. Each should be Virginia Run/Stone/Westfield. Scenarios send them to Carson/Skyview. Area cut off by airport. Amazon data center 14501 Avion Parkway, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States .

2 consultants and FCPS staff missed Dulles Airport. Wegmans stayed at Cub Run/Franklin/Westfield with thru/brac. This consultant found Stone on the map. Cub Run spa adjacent to it got moved to Stone/Westfield in new scenarios 2 and 3.

I'm not sure what parts of Floris you are talking about, but the entire Floris zone is very far from Virginia Run ES. I don't understand the point in singling out a handful of kids to be moved either way. Doesn't move the needle.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

Be specific. Which one do think comes close to the same discrepancy in distance?

Langley is obviously much worse as far as distance between neighborhoods, 14 or 15 miles. Oakton is very far distance between neighborhoods-Vienna to Herndon. Robinson is enormous.
There's nothing special about Westfield's boundaries in that sense. Lots of FCPS HS have areas very far from each other.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

No. Not like this. Not miles from the other neighborhoods.

This. Have you ever tried to get your kid who went to Floris to carpool with his friends, only to learn that they went to Virginia Run? I have.

There is nothing else like this in Fairfax County. Last time anyone looked there is NO other major international airport in boundary for an elementary school. Fairfax County has interactive maps. The massive chunk of Floris removed from a map shows up on Police Station coverage. IAD Dulles and City of Fairfax https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-police

Click on the community school maps https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-elementary-school

Floris has 2 SPAs that had less than 10 students each. Each should be Virginia Run/Stone/Westfield. Scenarios send them to Carson/Skyview. Area cut off by airport. Amazon data center 14501 Avion Parkway, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States .

2 consultants and FCPS staff missed Dulles Airport. Wegmans stayed at Cub Run/Franklin/Westfield with thru/brac. This consultant found Stone on the map. Cub Run spa adjacent to it got moved to Stone/Westfield in new scenarios 2 and 3.

Are you drunk or is this just stream of consciousness? This is fairly incomprehensible.

The Langley boundary is ten times more ridiculous and far-flung than Westfield's at the moment.

If FCPS is prioritizing as the #1 priority zoning the closest areas to the closest high schools, that's bad news for the people who want to stay at Chantilly as those neighborhoods are much closer to Westfield than any other neighborhood (don't come at me, Lees Corner booster, we can all read a google map in miles).

If FCPS is prioritizing as #1 priority eliminating split feeders, then the Centreville parts of Bull Run get moved. (This didn't seem to be the #1 priority in the county wide adjustment.)

If the #1 priority is balancing FARMs rates across neighboring schools, that means Chantilly areas get moved.

If the #1 priority is minimizing OVERALL transportation miles by all the zoned students to a school, then Chantilly areas get moved.

If the #1 priority is not moving kids from a closer school to a farther away school, then its a coin toss as Bull Run is closer to Centreville, and Chantilly areas are closer to Chantilly. If we are prioritizing walkers, then some areas of Chantilly stay but other areas are up for grabs.

Prioritizing moving kids out of the MOST overcrowded school? Then Chantilly kids go. Prioritizing moving kids out of any overcrowded school? Then its another coin toss as both Centreville and Chantilly are over crowded.

Prioritizing the areas with the loudest, most aggressive, and most politically connected advocates? Then Bull Run is the clear loser. This is actually the only "priority" we have seen evidence of mattering so far in this process with Walney Oaks sucking up to Reid and the Lees Corner people flooding the two meetings and getting promises from two SB members.

Basically its a coin flip on which areas should be moved, there are equal arguments either way and anyone who can't see that is clearly biased towards their own neighborhood's interests.

If FCPS had the intellectual honesty and political courage to state priorities clearly, there wouldn't be so much controversy.

Its a huge county.

There are lots of areas where the HS zone is made up of neighborhoods far off from each other and where those people would not consider each other "neighbors" in the same community yet they all attend the same HS.

There's nothing unique about the current Westfield boundaries in that sense.

Oakton (of course)

Robinson (town of clifton area)

South County-huge zone with old prison property in the middle, there's a quarry, and a dump separating residential areas)

Langley (we know the Herndon people aren't neighbors with the people in GF)

MVHS has Fort Belvoir bifurcating its zone as well.

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Anonymous wrote:But the same could be said of school zones with large parks, industrial areas, shopping centers, highways, etc. There's nothing peculiar about the Westfield boundary. Most of the boundaries have large areas that aren't residential.

No. Not like this. Not miles from the other neighborhoods.

This. Have you ever tried to get your kid who went to Floris to carpool with his friends, only to learn that they went to Virginia Run? I have.

There is nothing else like this in Fairfax County. Last time anyone looked there is NO other major international airport in boundary for an elementary school. Fairfax County has interactive maps. The massive chunk of Floris removed from a map shows up on Police Station coverage. IAD Dulles and City of Fairfax https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-police

Click on the community school maps https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demographics/interactive-map-elementary-school

Floris has 2 SPAs that had less than 10 students each. Each should be Virginia Run/Stone/Westfield. Scenarios send them to Carson/Skyview. Area cut off by airport. Amazon data center 14501 Avion Parkway, Chantilly, Virginia 20151, United States .

2 consultants and FCPS staff missed Dulles Airport. Wegmans stayed at Cub Run/Franklin/Westfield with thru/brac. This consultant found Stone on the map. Cub Run spa adjacent to it got moved to Stone/Westfield in new scenarios 2 and 3.