Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 12:30     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.



I never said federal workers were lazy or out of touch. I said residents of the DC area are out of touch (never said lazy). But yes, they are the political idiots of our country, all the while thinking they are the politically astute. They thrive on ideology, while the rest of the country are the ones that are more politically in touch, because the feel the results of legislation made in DC.

Exactly! This is about financial responsibility and trying to get a leash on this run away dog. It sucks that it had to happen, but the democrats do not want any restraints on how much of our money they want to use. Unfortunately, you can't tell the people around DC anything. They believe they are politically smarter than anyone else, when the opposite is true. They are used to living off the proceeds from the rest of the country. DC area residents are the equivalent of welfare recipients who don't understand where their money comes from or that they are being taken care of by other hard working Americans.


Exactly not. Literally everything you and the PP you are responding to said is demonstrably false. The idea that federal workers are lazy, out of touch, and in a DC bubble is a myth. Over 80% of federal employees work outside DC, many in high-risk, mission-critical roles, from wildfire response to cybersecurity. Federal productivity and performance data from OPM and other oversight agencies and watchdogs in fact show consistent output under tight budgets and political scrutiny.

Most federal workers earn less than their private-sector counterparts for similar roles, and many face furloughs, hiring freezes, and outdated tech while still delivering essential services.

Criticism based on GOP myths and cherry picked, out-of-date anecdotes ignores the scale, diversity, and complexity of federal work, from veterans’ care to disaster relief. Lazy isn’t the word. Resilient is.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 12:26     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.


Exactly! This is about financial responsibility and trying to get a leash on this run away dog. It sucks that it had to happen, but the democrats do not want any restraints on how much of our money they want to use. Unfortunately, you can't tell the people around DC anything. They believe they are politically smarter than anyone else, when the opposite is true. They are used to living off the proceeds from the rest of the country. DC area residents are the equivalent of welfare recipients who don't understand where their money comes from or that they are being taken care of by other hard working Americans.


Is that why we are giving billions to Argentina and building a Qatari airbase during the shutdown?


You obviously just regurgitate what you've been hearing by your crowd. Read up on it and you'll find out that there isn't a Qatari airbase being built or planned in the US. They are having a training location built on one of our Air Bases, which is entirely normal. Did you even know that the Germans have a base in Reston?
Sorry, but Democrats are sheep.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:36     Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:The games being played. I keep hearing that illegal aliens can't get ACA or medicaid. Meanwhile....

Noncitizen eligibility for certain federal health care programs depends on the program's criteria and the immigration status of the individual. The universe of immigration categories is vast and are not mutually exclusive; an individual can potentially belong to more than one of these categories at the same time.13 This report focuses on the categories relevant to the laws and regulations relating to federal health care programs, including the following (in alphabetical order):

Adjustment of status applicants are those applying for LPR status through U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) because they are already in the United States (in contrast to those residing abroad, who apply for an immigrant visa from the Department of State).14
Asylees are foreign nationals who fled their countries because of persecution, or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.15 Asylees meet the definition of a refugee (see below) in terms of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution but are present in the United States or at a land border or port of entry to the United States. This term refers to those granted asylum; it does not include asylum applicants.
Asylum applicants are those that have submitted an application for asylum and are awaiting a final decision on their application.
Certain noncitizens who entered the United States before January 1, 1982,16 which refers to noncitizens who were granted temporary legal status and were then able to adjust to LPR status pursuant to the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA; P.L. 93-603).
Compacts of Free Association (COFA) migrants are citizens of the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, or Palau permitted to live in the United States indefinitely under the terms of those nations' COFA with the United States.17
Refugee-like noncitizens who arrived before 1980 and were granted conditional entry pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 203(a)(7).18
Cuban-Haitian Entrants are nationals of Cuba or Haiti who have been paroled into the United States at any time, are in removal proceedings,19 or have a pending asylum application and do not have a final, nonappealable order of removal.20
Noncitizens with deferred action are those who are inadmissible21 or deportable but DHS granted them a discretionary reprieve from removal.22
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients are unauthorized childhood arrivals who DHS granted renewable two-year protection from removal.23
Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) recipients are foreign nationals from countries who have been granted a temporary administrative stay of removal at the President's discretion, usually in response to war, civil unrest, or natural disasters.24
Family Unity Beneficiaries are spouses and unmarried children of legalization applicants who have resided in the United States since May 5, 1988, pursuant to the Immigration Act of 1990 (§301 of P.L. 101-649, as amended).
Iraqi and Afghan special immigrants are certain Iraqi and Afghan nationals who worked as translators or interpreters, or who were employed by, or on behalf of, the U.S. government in Iraq or Afghanistan and were eligible for a special immigrant visa (SIV), which enables them to become LPRs.25
LPRs are foreign nationals permitted to live in the United States permanently.26
The INA does not define lawfully present noncitizens. Various health care programs utilize this term, but it has different meanings depending on the statutory or regulatory definition used for each program. (If applicable, the definition utilized by the programs discussed in this report is explained in the relevant section.)
Noncitizens admitted to the United States, which can refer to any noncitizen who was lawfully admitted (e.g., as a nonimmigrant or refugee).27
Nonimmigrants are foreign nationals admitted to the United States on a temporary basis and for a specific purpose (e.g., tourists, students, diplomats, temporary workers).28
Parolees are foreign nationals granted permission to enter or remain temporarily in the United States for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit. Immigration parole is granted on a case-by-case basis.29 Since 2021, the Biden Administration has used discretionary parole authority to enable persons with particular nationalities to lawfully enter and reside in the United States.30 These initiatives are distinct from the standard process through which persons outside the United States can apply to DHS's USCIS for immigration parole.31
Afghan parolees refers to Afghans32 paroled into the United States between July 31, 2021, and September 30, 2023.33
Cuban, Nicaraguan, Haitian, and Venezuelan (CNHV) parolees refers to individuals from those countries who were paroled into the United States since January 2023.34
Ukrainian parolees refers to Ukrainians35 paroled into the United States between February 24, 2022, and September 30, 2024.36
Refugees are foreign nationals fleeing their countries because of persecution, or a well-founded fear of persecution, on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.37
Special Agricultural Workers are certain individuals granted legal status through the IRCA (P.L. 93-603). The law granted eligible individuals temporary residence; they could later apply for permanent residence.38
Special Immigrant Juveniles (SIJs) are children under age 21 who were born in a foreign country; live without legal authorization in the United States; have experienced abuse, neglect, or abandonment; and meet other specified eligibility criteria.39
Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders are foreign nationals from designated countries granted temporary relief from removal due to armed conflict, natural disaster, or other extraordinary circumstances in their home countries that prevent their safe return.40
Victims of human trafficking and their families who have received a T nonimmigrant status are foreign nationals who can live in the United States for up to four years; they may apply for LPR status after three years.41
Noncitizens who have violated the terms of their status42 (e.g., a nonimmigrant who worked without authorization or overstayed their visa).
Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) Self-Petitioners refers to certain foreign nationals who have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty in the United States by a spouse or other household member, foreign nationals whose children have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty, and noncitizen children of foreign nationals who have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty. In these cases, the foreign national must have been approved for, or have pending, an application with a prima facie case for immigration preference as a spouse or child or for cancellation of removal.43
Certain foreign nationals present in the United States who do not qualify for asylum may be granted withholding of removal based on persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. Withholding of removal provides protection from removal. Noncitizens can also be granted withholding of removal under the Convention Against Torture (CAT) due to the prohibition against removing noncitizens to any country in which there is substantial reason to believe they could be tortured.44

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47351

Games are being played with definitions.


Illegal =/= noncitizen
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:26     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.


Exactly! This is about financial responsibility and trying to get a leash on this run away dog. It sucks that it had to happen, but the democrats do not want any restraints on how much of our money they want to use. Unfortunately, you can't tell the people around DC anything. They believe they are politically smarter than anyone else, when the opposite is true. They are used to living off the proceeds from the rest of the country. DC area residents are the equivalent of welfare recipients who don't understand where their money comes from or that they are being taken care of by other hard working Americans.


Is that why we are giving billions to Argentina and building a Qatari airbase during the shutdown?


Exactly.

Is there bloat and waste in the Fed? Yes. And guess what a lot of it is? Contractors.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:23     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


You might as well just be admitting that you have a sub-par IQ with comments like that.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:19     Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:The games being played. I keep hearing that illegal aliens can't get ACA or medicaid. Meanwhile....

Noncitizen eligibility for certain federal health care programs depends on the program's criteria and the immigration status of the individual. The universe of immigration categories is vast and are not mutually exclusive; an individual can potentially belong to more than one of these categories at the same time.13 This report focuses on the categories relevant to the laws and regulations relating to federal health care programs, including the following (in alphabetical order):

Adjustment of status applicants are those applying for LPR status through U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) because they are already in the United States (in contrast to those residing abroad, who apply for an immigrant visa from the Department of State).14
Asylees are foreign nationals who fled their countries because of persecution, or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.15 Asylees meet the definition of a refugee (see below) in terms of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution but are present in the United States or at a land border or port of entry to the United States. This term refers to those granted asylum; it does not include asylum applicants.
Asylum applicants are those that have submitted an application for asylum and are awaiting a final decision on their application.
Certain noncitizens who entered the United States before January 1, 1982,16 which refers to noncitizens who were granted temporary legal status and were then able to adjust to LPR status pursuant to the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA; P.L. 93-603).
Compacts of Free Association (COFA) migrants are citizens of the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, or Palau permitted to live in the United States indefinitely under the terms of those nations' COFA with the United States.17
Refugee-like noncitizens who arrived before 1980 and were granted conditional entry pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 203(a)(7).18
Cuban-Haitian Entrants are nationals of Cuba or Haiti who have been paroled into the United States at any time, are in removal proceedings,19 or have a pending asylum application and do not have a final, nonappealable order of removal.20
Noncitizens with deferred action are those who are inadmissible21 or deportable but DHS granted them a discretionary reprieve from removal.22
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients are unauthorized childhood arrivals who DHS granted renewable two-year protection from removal.23
Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) recipients are foreign nationals from countries who have been granted a temporary administrative stay of removal at the President's discretion, usually in response to war, civil unrest, or natural disasters.24
Family Unity Beneficiaries are spouses and unmarried children of legalization applicants who have resided in the United States since May 5, 1988, pursuant to the Immigration Act of 1990 (§301 of P.L. 101-649, as amended).
Iraqi and Afghan special immigrants are certain Iraqi and Afghan nationals who worked as translators or interpreters, or who were employed by, or on behalf of, the U.S. government in Iraq or Afghanistan and were eligible for a special immigrant visa (SIV), which enables them to become LPRs.25
LPRs are foreign nationals permitted to live in the United States permanently.26
The INA does not define lawfully present noncitizens. Various health care programs utilize this term, but it has different meanings depending on the statutory or regulatory definition used for each program. (If applicable, the definition utilized by the programs discussed in this report is explained in the relevant section.)
Noncitizens admitted to the United States, which can refer to any noncitizen who was lawfully admitted (e.g., as a nonimmigrant or refugee).27
Nonimmigrants are foreign nationals admitted to the United States on a temporary basis and for a specific purpose (e.g., tourists, students, diplomats, temporary workers).28
Parolees are foreign nationals granted permission to enter or remain temporarily in the United States for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit. Immigration parole is granted on a case-by-case basis.29 Since 2021, the Biden Administration has used discretionary parole authority to enable persons with particular nationalities to lawfully enter and reside in the United States.30 These initiatives are distinct from the standard process through which persons outside the United States can apply to DHS's USCIS for immigration parole.31
Afghan parolees refers to Afghans32 paroled into the United States between July 31, 2021, and September 30, 2023.33
Cuban, Nicaraguan, Haitian, and Venezuelan (CNHV) parolees refers to individuals from those countries who were paroled into the United States since January 2023.34
Ukrainian parolees refers to Ukrainians35 paroled into the United States between February 24, 2022, and September 30, 2024.36
Refugees are foreign nationals fleeing their countries because of persecution, or a well-founded fear of persecution, on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.37
Special Agricultural Workers are certain individuals granted legal status through the IRCA (P.L. 93-603). The law granted eligible individuals temporary residence; they could later apply for permanent residence.38
Special Immigrant Juveniles (SIJs) are children under age 21 who were born in a foreign country; live without legal authorization in the United States; have experienced abuse, neglect, or abandonment; and meet other specified eligibility criteria.39
Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders are foreign nationals from designated countries granted temporary relief from removal due to armed conflict, natural disaster, or other extraordinary circumstances in their home countries that prevent their safe return.40
Victims of human trafficking and their families who have received a T nonimmigrant status are foreign nationals who can live in the United States for up to four years; they may apply for LPR status after three years.41
Noncitizens who have violated the terms of their status42 (e.g., a nonimmigrant who worked without authorization or overstayed their visa).
Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) Self-Petitioners refers to certain foreign nationals who have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty in the United States by a spouse or other household member, foreign nationals whose children have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty, and noncitizen children of foreign nationals who have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty. In these cases, the foreign national must have been approved for, or have pending, an application with a prima facie case for immigration preference as a spouse or child or for cancellation of removal.43
Certain foreign nationals present in the United States who do not qualify for asylum may be granted withholding of removal based on persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. Withholding of removal provides protection from removal. Noncitizens can also be granted withholding of removal under the Convention Against Torture (CAT) due to the prohibition against removing noncitizens to any country in which there is substantial reason to believe they could be tortured.44

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47351

Games are being played with definitions.


Literally nothing in there says illegal aliens can receive anything. Every category described is someone here legally. That's not "playing with definitions" - every one of those statuses is defined by law and everyone holding that status is legally documented as such. Again, Republicans are LYING when they claim it's "free stuff for illegals." That's a fact.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:17     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

100%
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:15     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.


Exactly! This is about financial responsibility and trying to get a leash on this run away dog. It sucks that it had to happen, but the democrats do not want any restraints on how much of our money they want to use. Unfortunately, you can't tell the people around DC anything. They believe they are politically smarter than anyone else, when the opposite is true. They are used to living off the proceeds from the rest of the country. DC area residents are the equivalent of welfare recipients who don't understand where their money comes from or that they are being taken care of by other hard working Americans.


Exactly not. Literally everything you and the PP you are responding to said is demonstrably false. The idea that federal workers are lazy, out of touch, and in a DC bubble is a myth. Over 80% of federal employees work outside DC, many in high-risk, mission-critical roles, from wildfire response to cybersecurity. Federal productivity and performance data from OPM and other oversight agencies and watchdogs in fact show consistent output under tight budgets and political scrutiny.

Most federal workers earn less than their private-sector counterparts for similar roles, and many face furloughs, hiring freezes, and outdated tech while still delivering essential services.

Criticism based on GOP myths and cherry picked, out-of-date anecdotes ignores the scale, diversity, and complexity of federal work, from veterans’ care to disaster relief. Lazy isn’t the word. Resilient is.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:09     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

can't even copy / paste effectively, sad.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:08     Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

The games being played. I keep hearing that illegal aliens can't get ACA or medicaid. Meanwhile....

Noncitizen eligibility for certain federal health care programs depends on the program's criteria and the immigration status of the individual. The universe of immigration categories is vast and are not mutually exclusive; an individual can potentially belong to more than one of these categories at the same time.13 This report focuses on the categories relevant to the laws and regulations relating to federal health care programs, including the following (in alphabetical order):

Adjustment of status applicants are those applying for LPR status through U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) because they are already in the United States (in contrast to those residing abroad, who apply for an immigrant visa from the Department of State).14
Asylees are foreign nationals who fled their countries because of persecution, or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.15 Asylees meet the definition of a refugee (see below) in terms of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution but are present in the United States or at a land border or port of entry to the United States. This term refers to those granted asylum; it does not include asylum applicants.
Asylum applicants are those that have submitted an application for asylum and are awaiting a final decision on their application.
Certain noncitizens who entered the United States before January 1, 1982,16 which refers to noncitizens who were granted temporary legal status and were then able to adjust to LPR status pursuant to the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA; P.L. 93-603).
Compacts of Free Association (COFA) migrants are citizens of the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, or Palau permitted to live in the United States indefinitely under the terms of those nations' COFA with the United States.17
Refugee-like noncitizens who arrived before 1980 and were granted conditional entry pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 203(a)(7).18
Cuban-Haitian Entrants are nationals of Cuba or Haiti who have been paroled into the United States at any time, are in removal proceedings,19 or have a pending asylum application and do not have a final, nonappealable order of removal.20
Noncitizens with deferred action are those who are inadmissible21 or deportable but DHS granted them a discretionary reprieve from removal.22
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients are unauthorized childhood arrivals who DHS granted renewable two-year protection from removal.23
Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) recipients are foreign nationals from countries who have been granted a temporary administrative stay of removal at the President's discretion, usually in response to war, civil unrest, or natural disasters.24
Family Unity Beneficiaries are spouses and unmarried children of legalization applicants who have resided in the United States since May 5, 1988, pursuant to the Immigration Act of 1990 (§301 of P.L. 101-649, as amended).
Iraqi and Afghan special immigrants are certain Iraqi and Afghan nationals who worked as translators or interpreters, or who were employed by, or on behalf of, the U.S. government in Iraq or Afghanistan and were eligible for a special immigrant visa (SIV), which enables them to become LPRs.25
LPRs are foreign nationals permitted to live in the United States permanently.26
The INA does not define lawfully present noncitizens. Various health care programs utilize this term, but it has different meanings depending on the statutory or regulatory definition used for each program. (If applicable, the definition utilized by the programs discussed in this report is explained in the relevant section.)
Noncitizens admitted to the United States, which can refer to any noncitizen who was lawfully admitted (e.g., as a nonimmigrant or refugee).27
Nonimmigrants are foreign nationals admitted to the United States on a temporary basis and for a specific purpose (e.g., tourists, students, diplomats, temporary workers).28
Parolees are foreign nationals granted permission to enter or remain temporarily in the United States for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit. Immigration parole is granted on a case-by-case basis.29 Since 2021, the Biden Administration has used discretionary parole authority to enable persons with particular nationalities to lawfully enter and reside in the United States.30 These initiatives are distinct from the standard process through which persons outside the United States can apply to DHS's USCIS for immigration parole.31
Afghan parolees refers to Afghans32 paroled into the United States between July 31, 2021, and September 30, 2023.33
Cuban, Nicaraguan, Haitian, and Venezuelan (CNHV) parolees refers to individuals from those countries who were paroled into the United States since January 2023.34
Ukrainian parolees refers to Ukrainians35 paroled into the United States between February 24, 2022, and September 30, 2024.36
Refugees are foreign nationals fleeing their countries because of persecution, or a well-founded fear of persecution, on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.37
Special Agricultural Workers are certain individuals granted legal status through the IRCA (P.L. 93-603). The law granted eligible individuals temporary residence; they could later apply for permanent residence.38
Special Immigrant Juveniles (SIJs) are children under age 21 who were born in a foreign country; live without legal authorization in the United States; have experienced abuse, neglect, or abandonment; and meet other specified eligibility criteria.39
Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders are foreign nationals from designated countries granted temporary relief from removal due to armed conflict, natural disaster, or other extraordinary circumstances in their home countries that prevent their safe return.40
Victims of human trafficking and their families who have received a T nonimmigrant status are foreign nationals who can live in the United States for up to four years; they may apply for LPR status after three years.41
Noncitizens who have violated the terms of their status42 (e.g., a nonimmigrant who worked without authorization or overstayed their visa).
Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) Self-Petitioners refers to certain foreign nationals who have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty in the United States by a spouse or other household member, foreign nationals whose children have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty, and noncitizen children of foreign nationals who have been subject to battery or extreme cruelty. In these cases, the foreign national must have been approved for, or have pending, an application with a prima facie case for immigration preference as a spouse or child or for cancellation of removal.43
Certain foreign nationals present in the United States who do not qualify for asylum may be granted withholding of removal based on persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. Withholding of removal provides protection from removal. Noncitizens can also be granted withholding of removal under the Convention Against Torture (CAT) due to the prohibition against removing noncitizens to any country in which there is substantial reason to believe they could be tortured.44

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47351

Games are being played with definitions.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 11:03     Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:These fools don't know that feds have to account for literally all the minutes in their 8 hour workday. And that is done electronically now.


+1000%. I've been challenged to account for my time on several instances, where for example they claimed their logs showed I hadn't logged in when I was supposed to have been on duty and I had to provide evidence (for example I forwarded emails to HR that I had sent out during the time I was allegedly not working) proving that I was in fact working. There is a ton of scrutiny, oversight and accountability.

I'm sick and tired of constant right wing mythologies attacking federal workers coming from people who don't seem to actually know what they are talking about.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 10:56     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

The "lazy federal employee" is like the "welfare queen" of the past. A figment of the right's imagination. A scary bogeyman used as a tool to reduce spending and services for the people.

There will always be a very few people who exploit any system. But you cannot generalize that to all federal employees, or a majority, or even a plurality. Just like most people on welfare actually do need the help.

So go away with those old tropes. You are abject liars.


Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 10:44     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.


Exactly! This is about financial responsibility and trying to get a leash on this run away dog. It sucks that it had to happen, but the democrats do not want any restraints on how much of our money they want to use. Unfortunately, you can't tell the people around DC anything. They believe they are politically smarter than anyone else, when the opposite is true. They are used to living off the proceeds from the rest of the country. DC area residents are the equivalent of welfare recipients who don't understand where their money comes from or that they are being taken care of by other hard working Americans.


Is that why we are giving billions to Argentina and building a Qatari airbase during the shutdown?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 10:36     Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

These fools don't know that feds have to account for literally all the minutes in their 8 hour workday. And that is done electronically now.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 10:17     Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?


That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.


agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.


i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.


they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.