Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:53     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing that one of the helo pilots was a woman, but nothing I see says she was black.

Where is the source saying the pilot was a black woman?


Who cares this is irrelevant. You're falling into their trap. This isn't relevant at all.


Correct, their resume and experience and education and training is what’s relevant. Same as doctors and anyone else. Merit.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:53     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that the NSA is giving press interviews in front of the white house regarding the incident says a lot about the unspoken mission of the helicopter. Not the SecDef, not some Army general. The NSA.


SecDef is probably too drunk to speak publicly.


Are all the Army Generals drunk too? What does the NSA have to do with an Army Helo based out of Ft. Belvoir, unless there is a lot more to the previous passengers of the Helo than we realize.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:53     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that the NSA is giving press interviews in front of the white house regarding the incident says a lot about the unspoken mission of the helicopter. Not the SecDef, not some Army general. The NSA.


SecDef is probably too drunk to speak publicly.


Or busy bothering his female assistants.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:52     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the part where it became normal to focus on the race and sex of the pilot when planes crashed? I don't recall people blaming white men for the overwhelming majority of plane crashes. What is this country coming to?


When it’s the first thing our elected leader says – that this is due to DEI – this is what you all chose.


Not true! I did not vote for this s***show. Most people in the DMV area did not either.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:51     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

If this is what Trump is like on day 10 of his administration, it's going to be a hellish 4 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/29/us/plane-crash-washington-dc

In this news briefing, President Trump has largely blamed the U.S. Army helicopter crew for the crash, though there is, as yet, no official cause for what happened. He said warnings issued to the helicopter should’ve come earlier, but emphasized that “the people in the helicopter should’ve seen where they were going.”

President Trump blamed diversity requirements at the Federal Aviation Administration and his two Democratic predecessors for the midair collision over the Potomac River on Wednesday night, saying that standards for air traffic controllers had been too lax.

President Trump blamed diversity requirements at the Federal Aviation Administration and his two Democratic predecessors for the midair collision over the Potomac River on Wednesday night, saying that standards for air traffic controllers had been too lax.

Mr. Trump cited no evidence, and even admitted when pressed that the investigation had only just begun.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:51     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the part where it became normal to focus on the race and sex of the pilot when planes crashed? I don't recall people blaming white men for the overwhelming majority of plane crashes. What is this country coming to?


It's normal to ask about the age and experience of the pilot but we haven't heard yet (which is also normal). We will hear at some point who the soldiers were on the helicopter.

We have heard who the pilot and crew were on the AA plane, and some of the passengers, including some local students here and assumedly their parents.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:51     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the part where it became normal to focus on the race and sex of the pilot when planes crashed? I don't recall people blaming white men for the overwhelming majority of plane crashes. What is this country coming to?


We are calling into question the aptitude of the folks hired under DEI pushes. I’m interested in learning more about the helicopter pilot and the air traffic controller.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:51     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the part where it became normal to focus on the race and sex of the pilot when planes crashed? I don't recall people blaming white men for the overwhelming majority of plane crashes. What is this country coming to?


Democrats have spent years focusing on sex and race and now you’re wondering why people are focused on sex and race?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:51     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.


You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I


Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.



Do you not Nazi how you are playing directly into Nazi rhetoric?

Trump filled the government with grossly unqualified insane people, and you "REALLY hope" non-WhiteMen don't exist, because any one that does exist will be blamed for anything that goes wrong?

THIS IS HOW GENOCIDES LAUNCH


Um, no I'm not. You are not very good at reading comprehension. I hope it wasn't a woman flying the helicopter because Trump and Hegseth will point to that as "evidence" that women and other DEI candidates in the military shouldn't be there. I don't agree with that, but that's how they will twist that fact to further their agenda. Do you understand now?


So any time a woman screws up something (50% of the population) or a POC screws up (40%+ of the population) it's automatically because of "DEI"?

What a logical fallacy.

Does anyone know who was piloting the F35 that stalled out last weekend in Alaska? Was it a DEI pilot?
https://apnews.com/article/f35-air-force-jet-crashes-alaska-b85f19849361ddb3882cdc551f5d0f1d


Women do not make up 50% of military helicopter pilots or anywhere even close to that. But, in any event, as a PP explained, there's a perception that the standards for flying/ATC have been lowered for women/non-white folks and that this has made flying less safe. Again, I am not saying this is true, but it's the claim of Trump/Hegseth + supporters. I'm not sure why you keep getting so angry when I've made clear I don't agree with this claim. It's not my argument, it's Hegseth's. So get mad at him.


Simple.

Pull the qualifications, experience and training from pilots 15-20 years ago and compare them to the last 0-7 years ago.

Who are we putting in the cockpit nowadays?


We have a recruiting problem. This is not about men vs women. This is about being able to recruit ANYONE without lowering standards.

We have more women than men entering now, because they are meeting the standards more often than men. Too many boys are out of shape, doing drugs, and getting arrested.


Exactly.

Show the public the standards year over year going back 30 days.

Data won’t lie.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:50     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the part where it became normal to focus on the race and sex of the pilot when planes crashed? I don't recall people blaming white men for the overwhelming majority of plane crashes. What is this country coming to?


The Republicans are using anything to hide their incompetence and scapegoat anyone who isn't a Christian white male.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:50     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

According to Reuters, it was a fairly experienced crew on the helocopter but they were at the wrong altitude.

They were wearing night vision goggles and doing a training flight.

Right before the crash they confirmed they had the jet in sight - they must have been looking at the wrong plane? or else the night goggles impaired their peripheral vision and they couldn't see all the bright lights on the jet they were flying directly into?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:50     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the part where it became normal to focus on the race and sex of the pilot when planes crashed? I don't recall people blaming white men for the overwhelming majority of plane crashes. What is this country coming to?


When it’s the first thing our elected leader says – that this is due to DEI – this is what you all chose.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:50     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:The fact that the NSA is giving press interviews in front of the white house regarding the incident says a lot about the unspoken mission of the helicopter. Not the SecDef, not some Army general. The NSA.


SecDef is probably too drunk to speak publicly.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:49     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

The fact that the NSA is giving press interviews in front of the white house regarding the incident says a lot about the unspoken mission of the helicopter. Not the SecDef, not some Army general. The NSA.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 14:49     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/29/us/plane-crash-washington-dc?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare#staffing-was-not-normal-at-airport-tower-according-to-a-preliminary-faa-report

Staffing was short last night at DCA





Not sure that is relevant. ATC saw both planes and communicated with them- no whether the right words were said, I don’t know, but present staff attempted to intervene.


Horrific

I wonder if the plane could have pulled up and aborted the landing approach at any point.

Terrible.


The helicopter could have.


The helicopter was under the descending plane.

This is basic math and situationally awareness that every pilot should have.