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Anonymous wrote:I am completely confused about why he would get up and pump his fist immediately. Is it executive functioning missing?
If I was just grazed by a bullet I would not get up, I would be ducking until cleared.

One of the little bits of information that suggests maybe not all is as it seems.

The last time he thought he was being shot at he froze. It is possible that as his dementia has continued to develop, he may be losing those inhibitions.

And of course the fact that he was able to stop his USSS team and argue does not say good things about their relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how defensive people are. This registered republican isnt republican enough for the MAGA crowd even though he was registered as one. Never trumpers are republicans too. Republican on Republican violence.

It is well known that people register as the opposite party to vote in states that have closed primaries to try to influence the vote for or against candidates.

Donating to Act Blue on Biden’s inauguration day is not something a republican would do.

PA has closed primaries.

They would if they were old school republican disgusted with the behavior of Trump and his supporters that has taken over the party. Think back to January 2021, plenty of Republicans who were turning blue.

Anonymous wrote:I hate that people are saying the photos are iconic and symbolic of bravery by trump. To me I think of those poor SS agents who literally have to get between him and the next bullet and he would rather have his moment than listen to them. It to me symbolizes his selfishness and how our systems enable him.

I am glad he’s ok. I am a for gun control and against violence of all kinds. But this event was a loss of life for at least one innocent person and the reason it wasn’t worse was because of the actions of a group of highly trained professionals- not Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how defensive people are. This registered republican isnt republican enough for the MAGA crowd even though he was registered as one. Never trumpers are republicans too. Republican on Republican violence.

It is well known that people register as the opposite party to vote in states that have closed primaries to try to influence the vote for or against candidates.

Donating to Act Blue on Biden’s inauguration day is not something a republican would do.

PA has closed primaries.

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Anonymous wrote:So are conservatives warming to gun control?

Lots of conservatives want gun control. Not zero guns, but control, background checks, waiting periods, safety training etc. sure .

+1. Also, I'm tired of gun control being presented as a panacea. It could be part of a more comprehensive solution. But it's not "easy" to confiscate guns as a pp said-- and it isn't a substitute for harsh criminal penalties.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate that people are saying the photos are iconic and symbolic of bravery by trump. To me I think of those poor SS agents who literally have to get between him and the next bullet and he would rather have his moment than listen to them. It to me symbolizes his selfishness and how our systems enable him.

I am glad he’s ok. I am a for gun control and against violence of all kinds. But this event was a loss of life for at least one innocent person and the reason it wasn’t worse was because of the actions of a group of highly trained professionals- not Trump.

He pumped his fist after the shooter was killed. SS knew he was dead because they got an “All Clear” before moving Trump. You know this, so stop gaslighting us and condemning a man for bravely letting his supporters know he’s okay after getting shot in the face. You’re just scolding him to deflect from your deep shame and cowardice.

The SS knows there’s a chance of a second shooter or a coordinated attack which is why they are covering him with their bodies and trying to remove him from the scene. No one thought oh we are all good here, let’s get the rally going again. They are literally being used as human shields and he’s fighting them for a photo op. And people like it. Insane.

If I was shot in the face I would hope no one would Monday Morning Quarterback my defiant reactions. You sound like a total coward tbh.

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Anonymous wrote:So are conservatives warming to gun control?

Lots of conservatives want gun control. Not zero guns, but control, background checks, waiting periods, safety training etc. sure .

Anonymous wrote:I am completely confused about why he would get up and pump his fist immediately. Is it executive functioning missing?
If I was just grazed by a bullet I would not get up, I would be ducking until cleared.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate that people are saying the photos are iconic and symbolic of bravery by trump. To me I think of those poor SS agents who literally have to get between him and the next bullet and he would rather have his moment than listen to them. It to me symbolizes his selfishness and how our systems enable him.

I am glad he’s ok. I am a for gun control and against violence of all kinds. But this event was a loss of life for at least one innocent person and the reason it wasn’t worse was because of the actions of a group of highly trained professionals- not Trump.

He pumped his fist after the shooter was killed. SS knew he was dead because they got an “All Clear” before moving Trump. You know this, so stop gaslighting us and condemning a man for bravely letting his supporters know he’s okay after getting shot in the face. You’re just scolding him to deflect from your deep shame and cowardice.

The SS knows there’s a chance of a second shooter or a coordinated attack which is why they are covering him with their bodies and trying to remove him from the scene. No one thought oh we are all good here, let’s get the rally going again. They are literally being used as human shields and he’s fighting them for a photo op. And people like it. Insane.

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Anonymous wrote:In the first few pages I questioned if this event was real or a publicity stunt, based on the first footage, it seeming unreal, and knowing that Trump is a reality-star, felon, showman. Clearly now, after details emerged and learning of the tragic deaths and injuries to bystanders, I don’t believe it was staged but rather that it’s an awful, unacceptable event in American politics.

I will never vote for Trump. But I can have sympathy for him after this. I don’t want to see him assassinated. I just don’t want him leading our country. I want him to retire to his golf course at Mar-a-Lago and leave our country alone.

I’m certainly not a crazy, irrational leftist. I’m a DC area mom worried about the future for my kids. I don’t trust anything from Trump. So the posts on here questioning whether this was real are not all crazy trolls. It shows we don’t believe anything out of Trump until corroborated by legitimate news services. He’s a liar and a terrible human. But he shouldn’t be assassinated.

Yes, all of this.

+2 though I can’t even have sympathy for him. This is the world he wanted, remember?
• in 2016, Trump essentially suggested “2nd Amendment solutions” as a response to Hillary Clinton’s existence. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/08/09/opinions/trump-second-amendment-falsehoods-dantonio
• in 2020 Trump shared a video saying “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.” https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/president-trump-shares-video-of-supporter-saying-the-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead-democrat/
• in January of this year Trump’s legal team argued that a president could assassinate his political rivals https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

This is the world he wanted and made. My sympathy for him is minimal.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to get his own security. Democrats are trying to remove his right to USSS protection, Myorkas is denying increases for protection, and now there's been an assassination attempt from a rooftop 150 yards from his podium. The Penn state police said that rooftop wasn't part of the perimeter-- what? It's USSS and Law Enforcement's job to CREATE an adequate perimeter. The max effective range on an AR-15 is 600 meters, and they allowed an unsecured rooftop at 150 meters? This cannot be a simple mistake. There needs to be a full investigation and prosecutions for these people who are attempting to clear the path for assassins.

Has anyone thought about making AR-15s illegal?

Oh, right. Republicans want to keep them and have more people own them.

I consider myself anti-gun, but the reflexive urge to turn this into a gun control legislation debate is silly to me. You know what the shooter did was already super illegal, right?

But he couldn’t have done it if a 20 year old couldn’t just walk into a store and walk out with a high powered rifle.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the first few pages I questioned if this event was real or a publicity stunt, based on the first footage, it seeming unreal, and knowing that Trump is a reality-star, felon, showman. Clearly now, after details emerged and learning of the tragic deaths and injuries to bystanders, I don’t believe it was staged but rather that it’s an awful, unacceptable event in American politics.

I will never vote for Trump. But I can have sympathy for him after this. I don’t want to see him assassinated. I just don’t want him leading our country. I want him to retire to his golf course at Mar-a-Lago and leave our country alone.

I’m certainly not a crazy, irrational leftist. I’m a DC area mom worried about the future for my kids. I don’t trust anything from Trump. So the posts on here questioning whether this was real are not all crazy trolls. It shows we don’t believe anything out of Trump until corroborated by legitimate news services. He’s a liar and a terrible human. But he shouldn’t be assassinated.

Yes, all of this.

+2 though I can’t even have sympathy for him. This is the world he wanted, remember?
• in 2016, Trump essentially suggested “2nd Amendment solutions” as a response to Hillary Clinton’s existence. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/08/09/opinions/trump-second-amendment-falsehoods-dantonio
• in 2020 Trump shared a video saying “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.” https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/president-trump-shares-video-of-supporter-saying-the-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead-democrat/
• in January of this year Trump’s legal team argued that a president could assassinate his political rivals https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

This is the world he wanted and made. My sympathy for him is minimal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the first few pages I questioned if this event was real or a publicity stunt, based on the first footage, it seeming unreal, and knowing that Trump is a reality-star, felon, showman. Clearly now, after details emerged and learning of the tragic deaths and injuries to bystanders, I don’t believe it was staged but rather that it’s an awful, unacceptable event in American politics.

I will never vote for Trump. But I can have sympathy for him after this. I don’t want to see him assassinated. I just don’t want him leading our country. I want him to retire to his golf course at Mar-a-Lago and leave our country alone.

I’m certainly not a crazy, irrational leftist. I’m a DC area mom worried about the future for my kids. I don’t trust anything from Trump. So the posts on here questioning whether this was real are not all crazy trolls. It shows we don’t believe anything out of Trump until corroborated by legitimate news services. He’s a liar and a terrible human. But he shouldn’t be assassinated.

Yes, all of this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So are conservatives warming to gun control?

Lots of conservatives want gun control. Not zero guns, but control, background checks, waiting periods, safety training etc. sure .