Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:35
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Yay! Turns out “There is no constitutional right to abortion” after all. Roe goes into the dustbin of history where it belongs.
How do you feel about gay rights, gay sex and interracial marriage or any enumerated rights?
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:22
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Yay! Turns out “There is no constitutional right to abortion” after all. Roe goes into the dustbin of history where it belongs.
Bull crap. The war rages on. It was a constitutional right for decades and it will be again.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:21
Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down
SCOTUS does not need to be packed. It needs to be cleaned and corrected.
We now know that Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett LIED under oath. They willfully and deliberately deceived and misled Congress during their SCOTUS nomination hearings. Thus their confirmations were ILLEGITIMATE.
We have 5 ILLEGITIMATE people taking seats on the SCOTUS bench.
We need to hear from Roberts what he intends to do about it.
We need the Senate to begin impeachment hearings. Clinton was impeached for far less.
We need their perjury cases to be referred to DoJ for prosecution.
These 5 people lack the integrity to sit on the SCOTUS bench and must be removed.
They all lied. They all committed perjury. They all gained their seats under false pretenses. They are ILLEGITIMATE and must be removed.
We now know that Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett LIED under oath. They willfully and deliberately deceived and misled Congress during their SCOTUS nomination hearings. Thus their confirmations were ILLEGITIMATE.
We have 5 ILLEGITIMATE people taking seats on the SCOTUS bench.
We need to hear from Roberts what he intends to do about it.
We need the Senate to begin impeachment hearings. Clinton was impeached for far less.
We need their perjury cases to be referred to DoJ for prosecution.
These 5 people lack the integrity to sit on the SCOTUS bench and must be removed.
They all lied. They all committed perjury. They all gained their seats under false pretenses. They are ILLEGITIMATE and must be removed.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:20
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Yay! Turns out “There is no constitutional right to abortion” after all. Roe goes into the dustbin of history where it belongs.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:04
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
Says this court. It was for almost 50 years and it will be again when the court has some justices with some respect for women's rights.
How? Where is the will to pack the courts? What a fking futile and backwards bunch of sht all this is. It’s the same with regulating arms. We can’t even do that with any teeth. Just fking accept that religious loonies and “rugged individualists” who have a high school degree or less control the policy decisions in this country because the electoral college that prevents the “tyranny of the majority” allows them to. Accept that there are fk tons of idiotic zealots here who know how to lobby and vote. It’s done. Until the young generation who skew progressive do something in like 30 years. It’s all fked. That’s why moving to Costa Rica or Portugal sounds so nice. Safer, good waves, and less condescending inbred types.
Despair agent.
Organize. Vote. Publicize the victims of the GOP’s witch hunt on women. A pp in the Roe technicalities thread has an ER doctor sibling and their hospitals legal guidance is that they can do nothing to treat ectopic pregnancies starting with Ohio’s heartbeat law (so named because they hope it snuffs out many women’s heartbeats). The deaths are going to begin shortly. Those poor, poor Democratic women. I can’t really spare a concern for the Republican women who voted for this; the leopards have come for their faces.
It’s going to get shtty. I agree. Obviously this will cause incredible treble effects health wise.
But my point stands. The conservative have ground the gears of a functioning society to a halt, and they have the courts and apparently the constitution girding any meaningful change. Gun restrictions are impossible now, even with this stupid senate bill that is toothless. And abortion has gone to the states and it’s all fked. It won’t change until whack job conservatives are replaced by a more tempered and progressive young generation who by and large are pro abortion. That’s it. So I’ll see you in 40 years or whatever. As for now, watch the effects of this idiotic, religiously based bs. Your organizing will amount to a show of performative group anguish that will look good on the news but amount to nothing substantive. It’s all fked because conservatives and religious whackos are great and controlling the levers of power.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 18:01
Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down
I wonder if blue state doctors will revise the speed with which they perform tubals and hysterectomies. For the women who no longer want to have children at all, I would pay into a fund to guarantee that they don’t have to scramble to find meds from somewhere else in the country. What a mess.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:58
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
Says this court. It was for almost 50 years and it will be again when the court has some justices with some respect for women's rights.
How? Where is the will to pack the courts? What a fking futile and backwards bunch of sht all this is. It’s the same with regulating arms. We can’t even do that with any teeth. Just fking accept that religious loonies and “rugged individualists” who have a high school degree or less control the policy decisions in this country because the electoral college that prevents the “tyranny of the majority” allows them to. Accept that there are fk tons of idiotic zealots here who know how to lobby and vote. It’s done. Until the young generation who skew progressive do something in like 30 years. It’s all fked. That’s why moving to Costa Rica or Portugal sounds so nice. Safer, good waves, and less condescending inbred types.
Despair agent.
Organize. Vote. Publicize the victims of the GOP’s witch hunt on women. A pp in the Roe technicalities thread has an ER doctor sibling and their hospitals legal guidance is that they can do nothing to treat ectopic pregnancies starting with Ohio’s heartbeat law (so named because they hope it snuffs out many women’s heartbeats). The deaths are going to begin shortly. Those poor, poor Democratic women. I can’t really spare a concern for the Republican women who voted for this; the leopards have come for their faces.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:56
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
Says this court. It was for almost 50 years and it will be again when the court has some justices with some respect for women's rights.
How? Where is the will to pack the courts? What a fking futile and backwards bunch of sht all this is. It’s the same with regulating arms. We can’t even do that with any teeth. Just fking accept that religious loonies and “rugged individualists” who have a high school degree or less control the policy decisions in this country because the electoral college that prevents the “tyranny of the majority” allows them to. Accept that there are fk tons of idiotic zealots here who know how to lobby and vote. It’s done. Until the young generation who skew progressive do something in like 30 years. It’s all fked. That’s why moving to Costa Rica or Portugal sounds so nice. Safer, good waves, and less condescending inbred types.
Not accepting that. The right showed us exactly how this is done...and it begins and ends with the justices on the court. A long directed effort to get some justices with some respect on scotus is how to do it.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:52
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
Says this court. It was for almost 50 years and it will be again when the court has some justices with some respect for women's rights.
How? Where is the will to pack the courts? What a fking futile and backwards bunch of sht all this is. It’s the same with regulating arms. We can’t even do that with any teeth. Just fking accept that religious loonies and “rugged individualists” who have a high school degree or less control the policy decisions in this country because the electoral college that prevents the “tyranny of the majority” allows them to. Accept that there are fk tons of idiotic zealots here who know how to lobby and vote. It’s done. Until the young generation who skew progressive do something in like 30 years. It’s all fked. That’s why moving to Costa Rica or Portugal sounds so nice. Safer, good waves, and less condescending inbred types.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:46
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
Says this court. It was for almost 50 years and it will be again when the court has some justices with some respect for women's rights.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:41
Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:I understand and feel for the women who feel utterly betrayed by this SCOTUS ruling. But moving to what we can do to protect the most vulnerable. I think that pro women's rights groups need to start to organize medical drives. Because the two drugs that are used for medical abortions are controlled by the FDA and not the states, states cannot ban the drugs. They are enacting several regulations regarding how these drugs are prescribed in order to control them. Indiana says that they cannot be prescribed after 10 weeks and Texas has ruled that they cannot be prescribed after 7 weeks. Many states have barred prescribing these drugs via telemedicine appointments, requiring that the prescribing doctor see the patient in-person. Many states have restricted it so that NPs and PAs cannot prescribe them and that only an MD can prescribe them.
The ones most affected are poor women who cannot travel and who cannot take off from work to get medical appointments. So, organizations need to get mobile clinics with MDs to go and schedule appointments and then advertise that they will be in certain neighborhoods and that patients who need to see the doctor can come out to the medical van or bus during their lunch or coffee breaks, see the doctor and get the prescriptions written for them.
I'd most definitely donate to an organization that could make such a service available and I bet many others would as well. If the government was able to organize such mobile clinics for the Pfizer vaccine and visit the neighborhoods and areas where the most number of people could not get out to get vaccines and turn those numbers around, then pro reproductive rights groups should be able to mobilize similar types of efforts to protect the most vulnerable women. It may not be comprehensive, but it's a start until appropriate legislation can be made.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-abortion-pills-overcome-us-state-bans-2022-06-24/
Does Texas or Indiana have an actual legal requirement that they only be prescribed after a pregnancy is confirmed?
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:40
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.- the 9th amendment to the Constitution
Anonymous
06/26/2022 17:37
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
“There is no constitutional right to abortion.”
Anonymous
06/26/2022 15:16
Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down
I understand and feel for the women who feel utterly betrayed by this SCOTUS ruling. But moving to what we can do to protect the most vulnerable. I think that pro women's rights groups need to start to organize medical drives. Because the two drugs that are used for medical abortions are controlled by the FDA and not the states, states cannot ban the drugs. They are enacting several regulations regarding how these drugs are prescribed in order to control them. Indiana says that they cannot be prescribed after 10 weeks and Texas has ruled that they cannot be prescribed after 7 weeks. Many states have barred prescribing these drugs via telemedicine appointments, requiring that the prescribing doctor see the patient in-person. Many states have restricted it so that NPs and PAs cannot prescribe them and that only an MD can prescribe them.
The ones most affected are poor women who cannot travel and who cannot take off from work to get medical appointments. So, organizations need to get mobile clinics with MDs to go and schedule appointments and then advertise that they will be in certain neighborhoods and that patients who need to see the doctor can come out to the medical van or bus during their lunch or coffee breaks, see the doctor and get the prescriptions written for them.
I'd most definitely donate to an organization that could make such a service available and I bet many others would as well. If the government was able to organize such mobile clinics for the Pfizer vaccine and visit the neighborhoods and areas where the most number of people could not get out to get vaccines and turn those numbers around, then pro reproductive rights groups should be able to mobilize similar types of efforts to protect the most vulnerable women. It may not be comprehensive, but it's a start until appropriate legislation can be made.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-abortion-pills-overcome-us-state-bans-2022-06-24/
The ones most affected are poor women who cannot travel and who cannot take off from work to get medical appointments. So, organizations need to get mobile clinics with MDs to go and schedule appointments and then advertise that they will be in certain neighborhoods and that patients who need to see the doctor can come out to the medical van or bus during their lunch or coffee breaks, see the doctor and get the prescriptions written for them.
I'd most definitely donate to an organization that could make such a service available and I bet many others would as well. If the government was able to organize such mobile clinics for the Pfizer vaccine and visit the neighborhoods and areas where the most number of people could not get out to get vaccines and turn those numbers around, then pro reproductive rights groups should be able to mobilize similar types of efforts to protect the most vulnerable women. It may not be comprehensive, but it's a start until appropriate legislation can be made.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-abortion-pills-overcome-us-state-bans-2022-06-24/
Anonymous
06/26/2022 14:42
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
AOC is complicit in this decision, frankly. She has carried the water for the patriarchy one too many times to be credible. We need to squad-out and rebuild the party with members who actually care about advancing equality for women, as opposed to moving cults of personality who cannot "lower themselves" to vote for Elizabeth Warren.