Anonymous
09/10/2021 10:29
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You think it’s in bad faith? That’s a lot of your website constituency that you seem to think has an agenda.
I am painfully aware.
Have you considered that they don’t have an ulterior motive and you just disagree with them?
Of course I've considered it. Their own actions have convinced me that they irrationally blame teachers for everything.
And your own actions have convinced many of us that you are probably on the teachers union payroll.
LOL. Everyone who doesn't blame teachers for everything from covid to the Nat's batting average is on the WTU payroll. That's why I don't think you folks are arguing in good faith.
People are still rightfully angry that teachers refused to allow schools to open last year. That's not going to go away for a long, long time. I'm not dwelling on it because I need to have a good relationship with my kid's teachers and the school, but yeah -- never going to forget it. As for vaccinations, if WTU had been more forthright off the block, we could have truly mandatory vaccines for everyone in DCPS. WTU could have pressured DCPS to impose a vaccine mandate this summer on all adults in schools (including their own union and the other staff unions) to protect their own members AND the kids and families they purport to advocate for. But no.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 10:22
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You think it’s in bad faith? That’s a lot of your website constituency that you seem to think has an agenda.
I am painfully aware.
Have you considered that they don’t have an ulterior motive and you just disagree with them?
Of course I've considered it. Their own actions have convinced me that they irrationally blame teachers for everything.
And your own actions have convinced many of us that you are probably on the teachers union payroll.
LOL. Everyone who doesn't blame teachers for everything from covid to the Nat's batting average is on the WTU payroll. That's why I don't think you folks are arguing in good faith.
I'm not sure why you deleted all of my comments saying things like that I don't think you're on the WTU payroll, but that you don't appear to be unbiased. Or my comment indicating that strawmen like the above "Nats batting average" isn't helping to paint you as a neutral party. Instead you kept someone else's comment which was much less reasonable, because it seems like you had a good retort.
I love a good retort as much as the next person, but it seems at best unfair when you are able to control the narrative.
Anonymous
09/10/2021 10:21
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
I, for one, fully trust DCPS to be 100% open and transparent as they always have been.
-the most naive person in the district
-the most naive person in the district
Anonymous
09/10/2021 10:17
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dcps has a website that resports cases
And plenty of us know cases that we’re not reported there, in this district and others.
Plenty of people only know rumors.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 23:58
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will be interesting to see how many outbreaks are caused by teachers vs. students
Why is the attack line always “teachers”. You do realize there are other people who work in school buildings and interact very closely with students don’t you?
Let’s talk about what percentage of DCPS adult Covid cases in the entirety of 2021 were caused by TEACHERS and not other support staff.
You can say you’re generalizing, but assumptions like yours are part of the problem
most of the adults in schools are teachers, and most of the people interacting with kids are teachers. but the problem with adults in schools being unvaccinated goes beyond teachers, definitely. all adults in schools should be required to be vaccinated.
Current data at vaccinate.dc.gov for DCPS shows that 42.4% of covid cases involve students, 46.4% involvement non-teaching staff, and only 11.2% are teachers. I have felt for a while that the continued focus in this forum on teachers is not in good faith. Whether that is true or not, the focus is not supported by the data.
While that’s the most recent comprehensive data, I would describe it at “current” without more context. That’s the data for August 1, 2020 through September 1, 2021. This school year started August 30, so that doesn’t really include in any material respect information about the current state of Covid cases. The reason personnel is so much higher than teachers is because teachers didn’t go in at all until March and from March, only a relatively small subset went in and on a very limited basis. Many many teachers continued teaching remotely from home even when kids went back in person. DCPS used hired aides from November 2020 when they first opened to that virtual in person structure and also to supervise the in person classes that began “in person” with a remote teacher. In other words, the adults who were in schools (and so subject to reporting) from August 1, 2020 through at least mid-August 2021 were by and far these aides and other personnel, not teachers. What would be important to see is the breakdown since August 2021, i.e. when all teachers are back.
Would not* describe it
Anonymous
09/09/2021 23:58
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will be interesting to see how many outbreaks are caused by teachers vs. students
Why is the attack line always “teachers”. You do realize there are other people who work in school buildings and interact very closely with students don’t you?
Let’s talk about what percentage of DCPS adult Covid cases in the entirety of 2021 were caused by TEACHERS and not other support staff.
You can say you’re generalizing, but assumptions like yours are part of the problem
most of the adults in schools are teachers, and most of the people interacting with kids are teachers. but the problem with adults in schools being unvaccinated goes beyond teachers, definitely. all adults in schools should be required to be vaccinated.
Current data at vaccinate.dc.gov for DCPS shows that 42.4% of covid cases involve students, 46.4% involvement non-teaching staff, and only 11.2% are teachers. I have felt for a while that the continued focus in this forum on teachers is not in good faith. Whether that is true or not, the focus is not supported by the data.
While that’s the most recent comprehensive data, I would describe it at “current” without more context. That’s the data for August 1, 2020 through September 1, 2021. This school year started August 30, so that doesn’t really include in any material respect information about the current state of Covid cases. The reason personnel is so much higher than teachers is because teachers didn’t go in at all until March and from March, only a relatively small subset went in and on a very limited basis. Many many teachers continued teaching remotely from home even when kids went back in person. DCPS used hired aides from November 2020 when they first opened to that virtual in person structure and also to supervise the in person classes that began “in person” with a remote teacher. In other words, the adults who were in schools (and so subject to reporting) from August 1, 2020 through at least mid-August 2021 were by and far these aides and other personnel, not teachers. What would be important to see is the breakdown since August 2021, i.e. when all teachers are back.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 23:43
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:Sorry typo.
NP. Have there really been schools without a single case? Our school has had a new case (or two) at least every other day since school started.
Many schools have no cases, and many others have only 1-2 cases:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZT2XxxtPqtrEJKWsmErz7YkR-UYzvJaV-3aOZYcswBk/htmlview#gid=558896752
Anonymous
09/09/2021 23:42
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:You can add Oyster ES to the list. A person who was in the building last Friday tested positive. We received an email from the principal.
That’s posted...
Anonymous
09/09/2021 23:25
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dcps has a website that resports cases
And plenty of us know cases that we’re not reported there, in this district and others.
Where are these cases being shared then? I don’t see them in this thread or elsewhere. If you know of unreported cases, please share them.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 22:56
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You think it’s in bad faith? That’s a lot of your website constituency that you seem to think has an agenda.
I am painfully aware.
Have you considered that they don’t have an ulterior motive and you just disagree with them?
Of course I've considered it. Their own actions have convinced me that they irrationally blame teachers for everything.
And your own actions have convinced many of us that you are probably on the teachers union payroll.
Congratulations on being Exhibit A. Hysterical loon.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 22:49
Subject: Re:Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a poor child who is sick (and we don't know with what), and the teacher is presumably vaccinated, but all he's concerned about is the tiny potential threat the child poses. There's not really any concern for the child being expressed here at all. And I am really concerned that this is how this thread will end up.
Tiny potential threat? We are in the upside down world.
nobody knows what’s going on with the kid. and if he is covid positive and has no safe home to go to - what do you creeps want, a pitchfork brigade to throw him out? vaccinated teachers engaging in these histrionics are just too much.
School is not a repository for COVID positive children.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 22:45
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dcps has a website that resports cases
And plenty of us know cases that we’re not reported there, in this district and others.
*were
Anonymous
09/09/2021 22:45
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:Dcps has a website that resports cases
And plenty of us know cases that we’re not reported there, in this district and others.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 22:44
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
Anonymous wrote:What will this unreliable self reported data get you? What's your end goal?
What is your goal in trying to shut down sharing information that is not being reported on these false “dashboards?”
Anonymous
09/09/2021 22:42
Subject: Schools with positive cases thread - post here
MV Calle 8 is putting an entire class into quarantine.