Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 22:11     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't forget Friday 8th is the deadline for opting out!


HOW do we opt out?


If I opt out of the screener, can my child participate in the social emotional learning activities? I would like child to participate in the lessons and activities but I have serious reservations about the screener.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 21:36     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:Don't forget Friday 8th is the deadline for opting out!


HOW do we opt out?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 18:50     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Don't forget Friday 8th is the deadline for opting out!
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 16:33     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Fcps needs to focus on education. Stop with this transgegnder stuff, mental health, boundary changes, and every other XYZ issue except education.
It's like the elephant in the room, but they still don't see it.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 16:26     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
We opted out, don't know who will have access to this data, and since data breaches are common we would prefer that data will get out in the wild someday.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2021 16:06     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?


One concern is that the "file" is used when deciding any discipline. So if your child gets in trouble at school, the SEL screener is reviewed. If Larla is accused of bullying and said on the SEL screener that she doesn't often think about other people's feelings, then that's used against her. Another concern is that it's used for interventions. If the school doesn't like the way students answer certain questions, those kids can now be pulled for interventions to correct whatever the school feels was answered the wrong way.

The SEL screener results will be maintained just like the SOL scores, grades, etc. The language they use about data collection is the language used under FERPA, which controls what's an educational record and how it has to be dealt with.

This isn't just some touchy-feely survey with the results getting tossed after the school year.


What you write about regarding this questionnaire and discipline is fiction. The whole post is fear mongering.


How many discipline packets have you seen that are put together for use by the Superintendent's Hearing Officer? Items included in the discipline packet include: incident report, witness statements, grades, SOL scores, attendance record, and teacher observations. It seems like a high likelihood the SEL screener results would be included as information relevant to the statutory factors the Hearing Officer has to consider before making a decision.

Also, given the recent debacle with FOIA requests and FERPA violations, I'm not inclined to give FCPS any more info about my kids than absolutely necessary.



We are opting out.

I no longer trust FCPS leaders.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 21:30     Subject: Re:Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Why did Zuckerberg invest 4M in Panorama? Is there any evidence that he's gaining any insight from survey results?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 11:17     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?


One concern is that the "file" is used when deciding any discipline. So if your child gets in trouble at school, the SEL screener is reviewed. If Larla is accused of bullying and said on the SEL screener that she doesn't often think about other people's feelings, then that's used against her. Another concern is that it's used for interventions. If the school doesn't like the way students answer certain questions, those kids can now be pulled for interventions to correct whatever the school feels was answered the wrong way.

The SEL screener results will be maintained just like the SOL scores, grades, etc. The language they use about data collection is the language used under FERPA, which controls what's an educational record and how it has to be dealt with.

This isn't just some touchy-feely survey with the results getting tossed after the school year.


What you write about regarding this questionnaire and discipline is fiction. The whole post is fear mongering.


How many discipline packets have you seen that are put together for use by the Superintendent's Hearing Officer? Items included in the discipline packet include: incident report, witness statements, grades, SOL scores, attendance record, and teacher observations. It seems like a high likelihood the SEL screener results would be included as information relevant to the statutory factors the Hearing Officer has to consider before making a decision.

Also, given the recent debacle with FOIA requests and FERPA violations, I'm not inclined to give FCPS any more info about my kids than absolutely necessary.

Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 11:13     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:FYI you have to opt out each school year. Your opt out this year only counts for the assessments administered this school year.


Thank you for flagging this and thanks to poster that called out the Oct 8 date.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 11:09     Subject: Re:Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
How is fcps able to get around Virginia law and use the outside contractors to provide lessons to the students without the required review processes and transparent review of all curriculum?

Virginia constitution and the Virginia code are VERY explicit that published and digital curriculum must be reviewed and adopted through a very specific process, which includes requiring the material be public and reviewable for 30 days, with public feedback and the ability to object to the material with a reveiw process for the objections.

FCPS is skirting the law by brining in these outside contractors that are not subject to FIOA requests, and then fcps giving these outside groups FERPA that is supposed to be used only and specifically for schools and educators.


This is a very good question. Who decided to hire Panorama?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 11:00     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:Parents should really band together and tell the administration to back off big time on the whole SEL push.

They keep making us teach lessons we're absolutely not trained to deliver. I teach STEM, not psych.

My students hate (with a big H) the SEL lessons because they want to use that period to get their homework done and to relax a bit. The lessons are canned, preachy, unconvincing and embarrassingly contrived powerpoints.

And after an entire year of delivering these once a week, our school has no soap in the boys' bathrooms because kids have broken and keep breaking all the soap holders off the walls.



How is fcps able to get around Virginia law and use the outside contractors to provide lessons to the students without the required review processes and transparent review of all curriculum?

Virginia constitution and the Virginia code are VERY explicit that published and digital curriculum must be reviewed and adopted through a very specific process, which includes requiring the material be public and reviewable for 30 days, with public feedback and the ability to object to the material with a reveiw process for the objections.

FCPS is skirting the law by brining in these outside contractors that are not subject to FIOA requests, and then fcps giving these outside groups FERPA that is supposed to be used only and specifically for schools and educators.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 11:00     Subject: Re:Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
It’s no surprise to me that many FCPS parents are up in arms about this. Has anyone ever been to a sports game, AAP meeting or Back to School Night? The parents are batsh!t crazy. They probably realize their kids mental health is a direct reflection on them. They don’t care about uncovering mental health issues if it interferes with getting into a center and ultimately an ivy. Nothing will get in the way of their human engineering experiments on their little proxies.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 09:04     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
We opted out because we were concerned what would happen with the data? Who would see it? How would it be used? My DD is 8 and she doesn't know to answer either always or most of the time. She's libel to be confused by some of the questions. She's probably answer truthfully to those questions that should probably not be answered truthfully. So what happens when she's branded and uncaring racist? What is the intervention? Will CPS be called in on us? How will this affect how teachers view her?

FYI you have to opt out each school year. Your opt out this year only counts for the assessments administered this school year.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 07:14     Subject: Re:Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
I feel this way about most pushes the schools make. Anti-bullying isn’t working. Based on all the football incidents last year anti-racism isn’t working. Maybe *gasp* schools are not the best places for kids to learn these things-or at least not through stuff that feels like horrible corporate training.


+1

How about --instead of focusing on bullying--focus on getting along?

How about--instead of focusing on racism--focus on learning about our sameness?

Sure, you can acknowledge that there are bullies and handle that. And, you can acknowledge that there is racism. But neither should be the focus. When you focus on something, you magnify it. That is not a wise thing to do and anyone who is following the new curriculums and "equity" initiative should realize this.

There is a saying:

"You don't make yourself look better by making someone else look bad."
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 06:25     Subject: Social Emotional Learning Questionnaire for 3-12 grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s with all the concerns about the student’s “file”?


One concern is that the "file" is used when deciding any discipline. So if your child gets in trouble at school, the SEL screener is reviewed. If Larla is accused of bullying and said on the SEL screener that she doesn't often think about other people's feelings, then that's used against her. Another concern is that it's used for interventions. If the school doesn't like the way students answer certain questions, those kids can now be pulled for interventions to correct whatever the school feels was answered the wrong way.

The SEL screener results will be maintained just like the SOL scores, grades, etc. The language they use about data collection is the language used under FERPA, which controls what's an educational record and how it has to be dealt with.

This isn't just some touchy-feely survey with the results getting tossed after the school year.


What you write about regarding this questionnaire and discipline is fiction. The whole post is fear mongering.