Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 03:08     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.


wow, could be gas from river, but that's rare.


There would be vomiting I think?


Oh at 1000 ppm it would be instant cardiac arrest. But does the river have HS?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 03:06     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.


wow, could be gas from river, but that's rare.


There would be vomiting I think?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:53     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.


You could just post a link instead of being an ass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogle–Chandler_case


But it was posted last page by someone, not me, and people went on without looking, which I thought was tragic


Ah, okay. Apologies
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:40     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.


You could just post a link instead of being an ass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogle–Chandler_case


But it was posted last page by someone, not me, and people went on without looking, which I thought was tragic
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:33     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.


wow, could be gas from river, but that's rare.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:30     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.


You could just post a link instead of being an ass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogle–Chandler_case
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:14     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Heat.


All at once? All of them?

I wonder if there's some feature of the geography that might concentrate the heat there. Otherwise heat doesn't make sense.


It wasn’t necessarily all at once. They likely left on Sunday morning and weren’t found until Tuesday morning. Dog was leashed to dad and baby couldn’t have survived on her own. I think it was the heat. The trail looks steep and a 1yo plus carrier probably adds at least 25-30 lbs.


That's true. No time of death for any of the bodies has been released. I still don't think it was the heat. Not for everyone and the dog. The dog at the very least would not have died in 24 hours with no water. Would it have been severely dehydrated? Sure. But it would be alive.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/23/mariposa-family-death-mystery/

Timeline -

Went hiking on Sunday, Aug. 15th - time unknown
Reported officially missing on Mon, Aug. 16th around 10PM
Sheriff found family's truck on Tues, Aug. 17th at 2AM
Bodies located at on Tues, Aug. 17th at 11AM
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:09     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia


Excuse me, Bogle-Chandler. If you don't look it up and read you don't deserve to comment.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:09     Subject: What happened to this California family?
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Anonymous wrote:I just went white water rafting and camping on the Tuolomame River, just miles from the Merced. Our guides have rafted on both rivers.

They said you can NOT drink the water. NEVER. One of my teens got a mouthful of water, and everyone was alarmed. And let's just say that our guides were not alarmists.

I think they filled their bottles with bad water. Also, the heat is difficult out there, with no shade. 110 degrees all day until the sun sets over the hills.



I bet this is it


There was water in their canteen when they were found. No mention of it being river water. Would they know in a few days?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:07     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Bogart/Chandler y'all. Sydney, Australia
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 00:05     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:I just went white water rafting and camping on the Tuolomame River, just miles from the Merced. Our guides have rafted on both rivers.

They said you can NOT drink the water. NEVER. One of my teens got a mouthful of water, and everyone was alarmed. And let's just say that our guides were not alarmists.

I think they filled their bottles with bad water. Also, the heat is difficult out there, with no shade. 110 degrees all day until the sun sets over the hills.



I bet this is it
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2021 23:49     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Heat.


All at once? All of them?

I wonder if there's some feature of the geography that might concentrate the heat there. Otherwise heat doesn't make sense.


It wasn’t necessarily all at once. They likely left on Sunday morning and weren’t found until Tuesday morning. Dog was leashed to dad and baby couldn’t have survived on her own. I think it was the heat. The trail looks steep and a 1yo plus carrier probably adds at least 25-30 lbs.


But they collapsed all at once otherwise the mom would have made it farther and even to her car which was only 1.5 miles away.


And the dog may have stayed with his family while they all died but he probably would have left and come back, rather than just lay down next to them and die. Just because there was a leash doesn't mean he couldn't have moved. But he didn't.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2021 23:46     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Heat.


All at once? All of them?

I wonder if there's some feature of the geography that might concentrate the heat there. Otherwise heat doesn't make sense.


It wasn’t necessarily all at once. They likely left on Sunday morning and weren’t found until Tuesday morning. Dog was leashed to dad and baby couldn’t have survived on her own. I think it was the heat. The trail looks steep and a 1yo plus carrier probably adds at least 25-30 lbs.


But they collapsed all at once otherwise the mom would have made it farther and even to her car which was only 1.5 miles away.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2021 23:45     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
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Anonymous wrote:I am always wary of going in the wilderness or jogging in a lonely park. We pretty much keep to a lovely pedestrian path near a calm road in our neighborhood. Even in the state parks I like to keep to paved areas and places where there are many people. I have bumped into some really weird people in MoCo parks and I don't like to go anywhere without some stuff for self-defense. You always hear of women dying in such areas.


I’m a woman and have done a lot of solo hiking. Long hikes too. I had several safety plans in place.

But one time I was a handful of miles from a trailhead on a not very busy trail and I came upon a man with a chain saw. No joke. I was petrified. Turns out he was from the “Friends of” group for that trail and was there to cut up a fallen tree and clear it from the trail. He was a nice guy and we chatted for a bit. But I was a lot more skittish about hiking on my own after that. I mean seriously, a chainsaw? In the middle of the woods? Can’t make it up.



I mean, chainsaw in the woods makes a lot more sense than chainsaw in the city, no?
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2021 23:23     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Heat.


All at once? All of them?

I wonder if there's some feature of the geography that might concentrate the heat there. Otherwise heat doesn't make sense.


It wasn’t necessarily all at once. They likely left on Sunday morning and weren’t found until Tuesday morning. Dog was leashed to dad and baby couldn’t have survived on her own. I think it was the heat. The trail looks steep and a 1yo plus carrier probably adds at least 25-30 lbs.