Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:46     Subject: This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To add on to the rules:

IF You have been exposed to someone in the household who is positive for Covid, THEN YOU MUST Quarantine for 14 days.



You must be the "scientist" posting what people "MUST" do. This is absolutely not true.


Don't shoot the messenger. That is what is posted on the FCPS HS website. Period. It does not distinguish b/t vaccinated and unvaccinated people. HOWEVER, I saw your post and looked further. On the FCPS general website, it says the following:

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"Unvaccinated students who are identified as a close contact with someone with COVID-19 must remain home for 14 days after their last exposure.

Fully vaccinated students who are identified as a close contact with someone with COVID-19 do not need to remain home as long as they do not have symptoms. Verification of the status of vaccination will be required before a student may return to school. Verification will be completed by the FCHD contact tracing process. "

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So, it isn't entirely clear how long a vaccinated student would need to stay home if they are a close contact of a covid positive person.
https://www.fcps.edu/return-school/health-and-safety-guidance-document

Here's what it says about kids who stay home with a covid-like symptom:

"FCPS will no longer require the SICK STUDENT NOTIFICATION and RETURN to SCHOOL FORM for students who are called in absent with COVID-like symptoms/illness.
The student must be fever free for 24 hours without fever-reducing medication."


So, I guess if your kid has a runny nose or sore throat and you keep them home, they are good to go back to school the next day if they don't have a fever????

And to add to the confusion, the two topics above the latter statement both talk about being required to fill out the Return to School Form!

The communication on this issue is crappy. We are a district of 180,000 students. Every single morning there are going to be at least 1000 students who have a headache, sore throat, congestion, etc. And still we do not have crystal clear guidance on what to do. One website says you have to test negative. The other doesn't mention testing. Who is in charge of this?
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:34     Subject: This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:To add on to the rules:

IF You have been exposed to someone in the household who is positive for Covid, THEN YOU MUST Quarantine for 14 days.


You must be the "scientist" posting what people "MUST" do. This is absolutely not true.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:30     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who is “they”?

Why would you have to quarantine if you have two negative covid tests?
Who said you can’t start school?


They is INOVA Urgent Care. And the provided a letter for missing work at a FCHD site and a letter for school. And both said my fully vaxxed, fever free, very mild symptom, rapid test negative kid should be excluded from work and school for 10 days (plus no fever, plus symptoms improving) even if his PCR test was negative.

I certainly questioned this, amd was told “PCR tests are missing some delta cases, and we can’t be too careful”

FCHD has some jurisdiction over his job because he works at a Fairfax County site. And, of course FCHD has jurisdiction over FCPS.

We never really thought this kid had COVID. We acted out of an abundance of caution, since his job is public facing (but he wears a mask and it’s mostly outside).

I’m putting a word out caution out there. Don’t get your kid tested because they are mildly ill, or seem off, or whatever. Even if they are clear, you could be looking at 10 days of school for them, plus unvaxxed siblings, plus so,e amount of time for vaxxed siblings.


THAT is your takeaway? Jesus we are all doomed.


The takeway is that the quarantine in this situation is stupid and will lead people to not test and hide mild symptoms. This is not what the CDC recommends and on health authority should be requiring this. Excluding non-symptomatic kids who don't have COVID is of no benefit. We have passed the point of erring on the side of caution. That ship sailed when we decided to keep schools closed for a year.


I will only admit this on an anonymous forum. I had a mild cold this week. Rest of family totally fine with no symptoms. I considered testing but I was afraid my kids would have to miss open house and school next week. No one is sick. I am not even sick, like super mild cold symptoms. I have a scratchy throat.


Jesus. Get an OTC test at Walgreens or CVS, especially if your kids are too young to be vaccinated.


This. My DC tested positive with those symptoms. Even if everyone else is fibe, at least keep it that way by OTC testing and isolating from them if necessary.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:30     Subject: This is going to be bad…

Cases shouldn't close schools where kids are required to wear masks. No one should have to stay home except kids testing positive.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:26     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the PP who posted about the accident and I was an OPEN FCPS parent but after spending hours in the hallway due to lack of rooms in the ER and watching our healthcare workers work nonstop I changed my mind, when I walked out of the ER there were at least 25 people waiting. You do not want a situation in Fairfax where they do not have beds. We are in a good situation now but with schools opening, It may not, it is not worth the risk.



If you were really in #openFCPS you would be familiar with the many, many studies and articles showing lower risk to students and staff (in some cases, similar risk to staff in some cases lower) of COVID spread in schools. You may also be familiar with the Arlington Parents for Education #saferAtSchool hashtag. That's all be shared there repeatedly.

If you're still part of the group, you may want to search back through the archives. The data's all there. The data's still rolling in, by the way. Delta hasn't stopped it.


First PP is a troll. OpenFCPS is bipartisan and uses data. Not your anecdotal claim about an ER in Mississippi or wherever.

NP. I knew it was just a matter of time before the troll word comes up. People just want to bury their heads and pretend it is spring 2021.


Well if the data says spread in schools is no different than it was in school year 2020-2021, why can't we?

And so far that is what the data says (see Hopewell, VA, various summer schools, and the UK). If the data changes, then it's up to people and institutions to adjust accordingly.


UK tests all students twice per week. Not a valid comparison.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:22     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Hot off the presses, the latest covid report for VA.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/182/2021/08/COVID-19_VA_Spread_18-August-2021-1.pdf

Look at p. 26 for hospitalizations. It looks like weekly hospitalization levels are about the same as they were in May. The bulk of the hospitalizations are in the 50-69 age group.


Page 8 shows surging case rates in every district


Cases are not the same as hospitalization. Likely been 100 million cases in the US alone.


Cases are what’s closing schools for those already back in.





I hope that you are not an actual parent. Do you understand that to be informative, you need context for the worst case scenarios you are posting.

Look at the numbers for this county. Can you understand why what is happening there is not foreshadowing what may happen here. Do you see any differences?

https://covidactnow.org/us/mississippi-ms/county/pearl_river_county/?s=21951121


Pearl River County, MS
Updated on August 20We aim to update our data by 1 PM EDT daily. Occasionally, when additional review is required, an update can be delayed by several hours. Note that certain data sources that we use (e.g., ICU hospitalizations) are only updated once per week.
RISK LEVEL
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SEVERE
VACCINATION PROGRESS
% Vaccinated
39.1%
1+ DOSE

Daily new cases
166.7
PER
100K

Infection rate
1.27

Positive test rate
27.0%
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:16     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hot off the presses, the latest covid report for VA.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/182/2021/08/COVID-19_VA_Spread_18-August-2021-1.pdf

Look at p. 26 for hospitalizations. It looks like weekly hospitalization levels are about the same as they were in May. The bulk of the hospitalizations are in the 50-69 age group.


Page 8 shows surging case rates in every district


Cases are not the same as hospitalization. Likely been 100 million cases in the US alone.


Cases are what’s closing schools for those already back in.


Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:16     Subject: This is going to be bad…

Who cares about cases? Remember, the whole point of closing everything down was to keep hospitals from being overrun. Now we've got a vaccines, hospitals are fine, so...who cares?
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:14     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of 2 HS children in Fairfax county. Yesterday, I was in an accident and had to be rushed to the ER. I personally saw that the ER was packed, due to the unavailability of rooms, I and some other patients spent a lot of time in the hallway, we do not want a situation that if something happens there are no beds in the hospital.
Please take this seriously, I witnessed firsthand the situation in the ER and our healthcare workers are working nonstop and we cannot add to their burden. The school board needs to provide a virtual/ hybrid option before this spins out of control.


The dashboard shows that last week, hospitals were 100% full, but only 4.4% of cases were COVID. So, I’m not sure what’s straining our capacity. But, it’s now COvId right now.


Hot off the presses, the latest covid report for VA.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/182/2021/08/COVID-19_VA_Spread_18-August-2021-1.pdf

Look at p. 26 for hospitalizations. It looks like weekly hospitalization levels are about the same as they were in May. The bulk of the hospitalizations are in the 50-69 age group.


Page 8 shows surging case rates in every district


Try again, Debbie Downer. Fairfax is the only district showing "slow growth" rather than "surge".


Oh yes — that’s such exciting news!
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:11     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hot off the presses, the latest covid report for VA.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/182/2021/08/COVID-19_VA_Spread_18-August-2021-1.pdf

Look at p. 26 for hospitalizations. It looks like weekly hospitalization levels are about the same as they were in May. The bulk of the hospitalizations are in the 50-69 age group.


Page 8 shows surging case rates in every district


Cases are not the same as hospitalization. Likely been 100 million cases in the US alone.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:09     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of 2 HS children in Fairfax county. Yesterday, I was in an accident and had to be rushed to the ER. I personally saw that the ER was packed, due to the unavailability of rooms, I and some other patients spent a lot of time in the hallway, we do not want a situation that if something happens there are no beds in the hospital.
Please take this seriously, I witnessed firsthand the situation in the ER and our healthcare workers are working nonstop and we cannot add to their burden. The school board needs to provide a virtual/ hybrid option before this spins out of control.


The dashboard shows that last week, hospitals were 100% full, but only 4.4% of cases were COVID. So, I’m not sure what’s straining our capacity. But, it’s now COvId right now.


Hot off the presses, the latest covid report for VA.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/182/2021/08/COVID-19_VA_Spread_18-August-2021-1.pdf

Look at p. 26 for hospitalizations. It looks like weekly hospitalization levels are about the same as they were in May. The bulk of the hospitalizations are in the 50-69 age group.


Page 8 shows surging case rates in every district


Try again, Debbie Downer. Fairfax is the only district showing "slow growth" rather than "surge".
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:06     Subject: This is going to be bad…

No one vaccinated is supposed to be quarantining. They are supposed to mask in public and test after 4-5 days.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:06     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of 2 HS children in Fairfax county. Yesterday, I was in an accident and had to be rushed to the ER. I personally saw that the ER was packed, due to the unavailability of rooms, I and some other patients spent a lot of time in the hallway, we do not want a situation that if something happens there are no beds in the hospital.
Please take this seriously, I witnessed firsthand the situation in the ER and our healthcare workers are working nonstop and we cannot add to their burden. The school board needs to provide a virtual/ hybrid option before this spins out of control.


This has nothing to do with COVID. ER is almost always like that, particularly because there are many people who don't go to regular doctors and just show up at ER. Giving coverage for walk-in clinics with Medicaid would clear up ERs substantially.
That said, when I went to ER the second time, it was empty.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:06     Subject: Re:This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Word is going to get out to only test if you have a case that needs hospitalization. At all ages, really.


If you miss school because you are sick, the school will call and demand you get tested.


We’ll see. My HS DD is about to miss school for PMS and cramps.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:04     Subject: This is going to be bad…

Anonymous wrote:To add on to the rules:

IF You have been exposed to someone in the household who is positive for Covid, THEN YOU MUST Quarantine for 14 days.


Wait— you MUST quarantine even if vaxxed? You can’t test and end the quarantine early? That’s nuts.