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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

Don’t know about Duke or Stanford but Harvard offers pre-calc. Also Stanford takes AP credit and doesn’t have the Ivy AI index. Show us some stats on ND’s grad rates before you act rude.

The average 3-5 star football, basketball and even hockey and baseball recruit can’t pass algebra 2, which is a 9th grade course at most high schools. But sure, keep pretending they can all go to T20 universities and write university level papers. Must be magic in the air.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

See, you’re just plain wrong. The truth is that Stanford’s admissions standards for football are the highest of the three and higher by far than any other successful D-1 program, but Notre Dame’s prospects are also held to high standards - including the expectation that they are sufficiently academically equipped to pass calculus. The idea that Notre Dame football players “test at primary and middle schools levels” is patently untrue and insulting. That might have been if Lou Holtz had his way way back when, but the administration wouldn’t lower admissions standards to his liking and that’s one of the main reasons he left.

Keep drinking the koolaid, trafficking the bullshit cult propaganda. Go team go!!

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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

See, you’re just plain wrong. The truth is that Stanford’s admissions standards for football are the highest of the three and higher by far than any other successful D-1 program, but Notre Dame’s prospects are also held to high standards - including the expectation that they are sufficiently academically equipped to pass calculus. The idea that Notre Dame football players “test at primary and middle schools levels” is patently untrue and insulting. That might have been if Lou Holtz had his way way back when, but the administration wouldn’t lower admissions standards to his liking and that’s one of the main reasons he left.

I mean, my dd is a lawyer now and has never taken a calculus course. It’s okay.

You’re missing the point, but ok.

Here’s a good and fair WSJ article article on the subject of ND and football and academics:

https://online.wsj.com/articles/is-notre-dame-football-too-demanding-1408726455

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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

Don’t know about Duke or Stanford but Harvard offers pre-calc. Also Stanford takes AP credit and doesn’t have the Ivy AI index. Show us some stats on ND’s grad rates before you act rude.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

See, you’re just plain wrong. The truth is that Stanford’s admissions standards for football are the highest of the three and higher by far than any other successful D-1 program, but Notre Dame’s prospects are also held to high standards - including the expectation that they are sufficiently academically equipped to pass calculus. The idea that Notre Dame football players “test at primary and middle schools levels” is patently untrue and insulting. That might have been if Lou Holtz had his way way back when, but the administration wouldn’t lower admissions standards to his liking and that’s one of the main reasons he left.

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Anonymous wrote:I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

Notre Dame's undergrad population is 80 percent Catholic, so you can't know all that many who aren't.

DP: Well, plenty of people are raised Catholic and then don't sustain it by the time you know them as adults (myself included).

And what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about how current Notre Dame students self-identify. Not you and your friends.

No, the PP said they knew hordes of ND grads not current students. You equated that to current students and then challenged their claim.

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Anonymous wrote:I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

Notre Dame's undergrad population is 80 percent Catholic, so you can't know all that many who aren't.

DP: Well, plenty of people are raised Catholic and then don't sustain it by the time you know them as adults (myself included).

And what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about how current Notre Dame students self-identify. Not you and your friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

See, you’re just plain wrong. The truth is that Stanford’s admissions standards for football are the highest of the three and higher by far than any other successful D-1 program, but Notre Dame’s prospects are also held to high standards - including the expectation that they are sufficiently academically equipped to pass calculus. The idea that Notre Dame football players “test at primary and middle schools levels” is patently untrue and insulting. That might have been if Lou Holtz had his way way back when, but the administration wouldn’t lower admissions standards to his liking and that’s one of the main reasons he left.

I mean, my dd is a lawyer now and has never taken a calculus course. It’s okay.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

See, you’re just plain wrong. The truth is that Stanford’s admissions standards for football are the highest of the three and higher by far than any other successful D-1 program, but Notre Dame’s prospects are also held to high standards - including the expectation that they are sufficiently academically equipped to pass calculus. The idea that Notre Dame football players “test at primary and middle schools levels” is patently untrue and insulting. That might have been if Lou Holtz had his way way back when, but the administration wouldn’t lower admissions standards to his liking and that’s one of the main reasons he left.

Anonymous wrote:Pretending they're "different" and that their low IQ football (and basketball, hockey, etc.) recruits can actually handle the school load is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Same for Stanford and Duke. Unlike public degree mills, neither of these elite colleges offers remedial courses, so pray tell how dumb athletes who test at literally primary and middle school levels finish even one elite university-level course? Rampant fraud and cheating, obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:A prestigious Catholic school in one of the most depressing and soul sucking areas of the country.

You need to get out more if you think that.

Well, she's not wrong when it comes to the South Bend region specifically. It's not great. But the campus itself is not in South Bend and is one of the most beautiful in the entire country, Chicago isn't far away, and Lake Michigan is even closer and is really pretty.

Residential life on campus is really fun for these students. Football season is especially electric. But it really depends on the kid and whether or not they thrive in that environment. The dorm life mimics Greek life in that each dorm has its own traditions and charitable events. Once you get assigned to a dorm, it is rare for a student to switch..they become very attached to their hall and students within the hall.

Again, this type of campus life is not for everyone. My kid loves it though. And the academic experience is pretty damn good as well!