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Anonymous wrote:“ Parent to a recent Northwestern grad here, and yes, that's certainly one of the key selling points of the university, and something Gwynne Shotwell talked about in her commencement speech last week: She knew she wanted to be an engineer but didn't want to be surrounded by other engineers her entire time in college. If you're a high-performing student interested in any of Northwestern's "spiked" fields that it's really good at (engineering, certain humanities/STEM fields, theater, journalism, film, music) but also know you don't want to be at just an engineering school or a conservatory or what-have-you, Northwestern's the place. I don't think there's another school in the country that does that as well as NU does.”

Michigan does it with most of the above majors and some not listed; like fine arts, architecture, and a dedicated undergraduate business school among many others.

DP and I say this with all the respect to Michigan, but I think there's a notable difference in size, intimacy, and avg. student caliber between those two schools.

Really? There is a difference in size and intimacy? Gee, who would have thought that? The average student difference is not that great, especially in STEM fields. It was mentioned that NU does “other” things better than any other school in the country. My point was Michigan does that as well, except it has an even greater breadth and depth than NU or almost all privates can offer. There really is no other university in the country that combines so many areas of academic excellence.

Berkeley and UCLA instantly come to mind.

These are all great schools, but they are massive. At Berkeley in particular, if you're a CS major (or you're a student trying to get into the major, of which there are hundreds, if not thousands) you'll feel like you're swimming in an ocean of other CS and STEM majors. Scale matters.

As a counter-example, Northwestern has dedicated schools to journalism, music, and communication, respectively; the theater department is large and occupies a significant portion of student life. No one field dominates, and inter-disciplinary cross-collaboration is actively encouraged. The percentage of students double majoring or double degree-ing across these different schools/departments/majors is markedly higher than at peer institutions, and certainly higher than large state flagships like Michigan, Berkeley, and UCLA. The funding per capita is also much higher.

This isn't to bash Michigan, Berkeley, UCLA et al, lest their boosters get offended. Those are all fantastic schools in their own right, as well.

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Anonymous wrote:“ Parent to a recent Northwestern grad here, and yes, that's certainly one of the key selling points of the university, and something Gwynne Shotwell talked about in her commencement speech last week: She knew she wanted to be an engineer but didn't want to be surrounded by other engineers her entire time in college. If you're a high-performing student interested in any of Northwestern's "spiked" fields that it's really good at (engineering, certain humanities/STEM fields, theater, journalism, film, music) but also know you don't want to be at just an engineering school or a conservatory or what-have-you, Northwestern's the place. I don't think there's another school in the country that does that as well as NU does.”

Michigan does it with most of the above majors and some not listed; like fine arts, architecture, and a dedicated undergraduate business school among many others.

DP and I say this with all the respect to Michigan, but I think there's a notable difference in size, intimacy, and avg. student caliber between those two schools.

Really? There is a difference in size and intimacy? Gee, who would have thought that? The average student difference is not that great, especially in STEM fields. It was mentioned that NU does “other” things better than any other school in the country. My point was Michigan does that as well, except it has an even greater breadth and depth than NU or almost all privates can offer. There really is no other university in the country that combines so many areas of academic excellence.

Berkeley and UCLA instantly come to mind.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Parent to a recent Northwestern grad here, and yes, that's certainly one of the key selling points of the university, and something Gwynne Shotwell talked about in her commencement speech last week: She knew she wanted to be an engineer but didn't want to be surrounded by other engineers her entire time in college. If you're a high-performing student interested in any of Northwestern's "spiked" fields that it's really good at (engineering, certain humanities/STEM fields, theater, journalism, film, music) but also know you don't want to be at just an engineering school or a conservatory or what-have-you, Northwestern's the place. I don't think there's another school in the country that does that as well as NU does.”

Michigan does it with most of the above majors and some not listed; like fine arts, architecture, and a dedicated undergraduate business school among many others.

DP and I say this with all the respect to Michigan, but I think there's a notable difference in size, intimacy, and avg. student caliber between those two schools.

Really? There is a difference in size and intimacy? Gee, who would have thought that? The average student difference is not that great, especially in STEM fields. It was mentioned that NU does “other” things better than any other school in the country. My point was Michigan does that as well, except it has an even greater breadth and depth than NU or almost all privates can offer. There really is no other university in the country that combines so many areas of academic excellence.

Anonymous wrote:“ Parent to a recent Northwestern grad here, and yes, that's certainly one of the key selling points of the university, and something Gwynne Shotwell talked about in her commencement speech last week: She knew she wanted to be an engineer but didn't want to be surrounded by other engineers her entire time in college. If you're a high-performing student interested in any of Northwestern's "spiked" fields that it's really good at (engineering, certain humanities/STEM fields, theater, journalism, film, music) but also know you don't want to be at just an engineering school or a conservatory or what-have-you, Northwestern's the place. I don't think there's another school in the country that does that as well as NU does.”

Michigan does it with most of the above majors and some not listed; like fine arts, architecture, and a dedicated undergraduate business school among many others.

DP and I say this with all the respect to Michigan, but I think there's a notable difference in size, intimacy, and avg. student caliber between those two schools.

“ Parent to a recent Northwestern grad here, and yes, that's certainly one of the key selling points of the university, and something Gwynne Shotwell talked about in her commencement speech last week: She knew she wanted to be an engineer but didn't want to be surrounded by other engineers her entire time in college. If you're a high-performing student interested in any of Northwestern's "spiked" fields that it's really good at (engineering, certain humanities/STEM fields, theater, journalism, film, music) but also know you don't want to be at just an engineering school or a conservatory or what-have-you, Northwestern's the place. I don't think there's another school in the country that does that as well as NU does.”

Michigan does it with most of the above majors and some not listed; like fine arts, architecture, and a dedicated undergraduate business school among many others.

Anonymous wrote:I went to NU and had a really good time there. If you like to dabble on other activities it's a good school to do stuff like music and theater while taking a variety of classes. Plus the football games are free to all students. Evanston can be a little bubble but you can also get into Chicago easily. I did a STEM degree and having a break by doing music helped keep me from stressing myself out all the time.

However, the price has more than doubled since I graduated 10ish years ago. They were by far the most generous with financial aid than other schools I got into at the time, so there's that. I got a pretty generous grant from them when no one else offered anything. But it's just crazy how much the cost has gone up in such a short time.

Parent to a recent Northwestern grad here, and yes, that's certainly one of the key selling points of the university, and something Gwynne Shotwell talked about in her commencement speech last week: She knew she wanted to be an engineer but didn't want to be surrounded by other engineers her entire time in college. If you're a high-performing student interested in any of Northwestern's "spiked" fields that it's really good at (engineering, certain humanities/STEM fields, theater, journalism, film, music) but also know you don't want to be at just an engineering school or a conservatory or what-have-you, Northwestern's the place. I don't think there's another school in the country that does that as well as NU does.

But yes, the cost is nothing to sneeze at, and they jack up the tuition every year. Their fin aid office however is fabulous and we were able to get generous funding all four years for our kid. Certainly a bit more expensive than if they had chosen an in-state school, but cheaper than the other private options they had been considering. We'll see now how well that degree pays off post-graduation...!

I went to NU and had a really good time there. If you like to dabble on other activities it's a good school to do stuff like music and theater while taking a variety of classes. Plus the football games are free to all students. Evanston can be a little bubble but you can also get into Chicago easily. I did a STEM degree and having a break by doing music helped keep me from stressing myself out all the time.

However, the price has more than doubled since I graduated 10ish years ago. They were by far the most generous with financial aid than other schools I got into at the time, so there's that. I got a pretty generous grant from them when no one else offered anything. But it's just crazy how much the cost has gone up in such a short time.

Anonymous wrote:The Most Popular Colleges at the Top 50 Prep Schools in the U.S.

No one cares. Take your spam somewhere else.

H2O

Anonymous wrote:This is the 5th time this week that this list has been posted (4 separate threads as well as this comment on an existing thread). It was ambiguous at first (could have been a not very bright UChicago booster posting), but at this point it seems more likely that it’s being done by the UChicago basher(s?) who want to keep bumping these threads up and enabling the slugfest to go another round. Regardless, its tiresome; can we stop?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981088.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981089.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981312.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/135/20251283.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981685.page

And posted 4 more times this morning around 4 am.

The Most Popular Colleges at the Top 50 Prep Schools in the U.S.

Here is a list of the most popular colleges at the Top 50 private high schools in the U.S. along with the number of students who enroll annually in 43 of those 50 schools on average.

UChicago is the most popular college followed by NYU in second and Harvard in third place.

Rank College Total Number of Students from Top 30 Private High Schools Annually

1) UChicago - 200.3
2) NYU - 167.8
3) Harvard - 163.2
4) Cornell - 155.3
5) Penn - 153.1
6) Georgetown - 151.5
7) Yale - 147.4
8) Brown - 134
9) Columbia - 132.3
10) WashU - 114.1
11) USC - 106.8
12) Tufts - 105.2
13) Princeton - 99.3
14) Stanford - 89.2
15) Dartmouth - 88.7
16) Duke - 76.9
17) Northwestern - 76.3
18) Berkeley - 62.2
19) Vanderbilt - 62
20) Williams - 56.6
21) MIT - 54.7
22) Johns Hopkins - 37
Most popular means the college at which the most students overall enrolled in.

UChicago is one of the top three most popular colleges at 15 prep schools--more than any other university. Harvard is one of the three most popular colleges at 9 prep schools.

UChicago also had the best geographic reach. Harvard is only one of the top colleges in New England and New York City. UChicago is one of the top colleges in New England, New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego.

Forty-three of the Top Fifty schools according to Niche.com were included:

Andover, Exeter, St. Mark's of Texas, College Preparatory School, Hotchkiss, Harvard-Westlake, Trinity, Choate Rosemary Hall, Regis, Horace Mann, Collegiate School, The Brearley School, Lawrenceville School, Groton, Nueva School, Noble and Greenough School, Ransom Everglades, Lakeside School, Georgetown Day School, Dalton School, Rye Country Day School, The Spence School, Riverdale Country School, Hopkins School, St. Paul's School, The Pingry School, John Burroughs School, National Cathedral School, The Bishop's School, Concord Academy, Deerfield Academy, Newark Academy, The Harker School, The Westminster Schools, Milton Academy, St. John's School, Middlesex School, Winsor School, The Thacher School, The Chapin School, Boston University Academy, Delbarton School, and University of Chicago Laboratory School.

Forty-one of the Top 50 Schools provided exact enrollment figures. Two schools (Trinity and National Cathedral School) provided tiers (5+, 10+).

Six schools that only provided the names of colleges its students attended but no figures were not included. One school did not provide any information.

Most schools provided a range of 4 or 5 years for their enrollment figures. Total enrollment was divided by the number of years to give an average yearly enrollment per school.



https://tophscollege.blogspot.com/2021/06/the-most-popular-colleges-at-top-50.html

Thanks, Jeff for pruning some of these weeds!

This is the 5th time this week that this list has been posted (4 separate threads as well as this comment on an existing thread). It was ambiguous at first (could have been a not very bright UChicago booster posting), but at this point it seems more likely that it’s being done by the UChicago basher(s?) who want to keep bumping these threads up and enabling the slugfest to go another round. Regardless, its tiresome; can we stop?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981088.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981089.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981312.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/135/20251283.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981685.page

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Anonymous wrote:UChicago as an institution has many achievements (and the marketing department to boot) but is grossly overhyped generally, and its alumni tend to be terribly insecure about their place in the world. I've had good experiences with Northwestern alumni.

They were just being polite.

Pardon? You think trolling anonymous internet boards aggressively touting the school and spamming DCUM with ranking lists that favor UCHicago is "being polite"? You think loudly proclaiming that "UChicago is the new Harvard" and insulting anyone who might disagree with you is polite behavior?

Calm down! If they want to tout their alma mater and you disagree, state your case and be done with it. It's no different than those saying the 8 ivies are the best because they are Ivy, or more recently those defending Dartmouth. Or the UVA or Berkeley fan clubs. Don't have to go out of your way to trash a school or flame a poster.

And yes, it seems the "they" above refers to Northwestern alumni.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UChicago as an institution has many achievements (and the marketing department to boot) but is grossly overhyped generally, and its alumni tend to be terribly insecure about their place in the world. I've had good experiences with Northwestern alumni.

They were just being polite.

Pardon? You think trolling anonymous internet boards aggressively touting the school and spamming DCUM with ranking lists that favor UCHicago is "being polite"? You think loudly proclaiming that "UChicago is the new Harvard" and insulting anyone who might disagree with you is polite behavior?

+1 The more this U Chicago person posts the less regard I have for the school. At this point my regard is in the negative single digits but it could slide even more. If you're going to boost something at least try to have panache. This person is so out-of-control that she is making everyone at her school look like a fool because it was a school that accepted her.