Anonymous
05/30/2021 11:30
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Yes they have published a draft. It's what they've been talking about in their videos. They've been talking more to the division staff directly.
LCPS knew about the change in classes coming in a few years, and made changes accordingly. They may be revisiting given the walkback on tracking, but the change to algebra/geometry/algebra 2 can certainly be considered a first draft.
No - they don't have a "published draft" - they have a freakin' infographic.
If LCPS made changes to their course offerings based off an infographic then obviously that was premature.
No, LCPS staff had discussions with VMPI describing what they were implementing. Who knows what all they said to LCPS, but the staff came out of it arguing that giving tests for acceleration to 5th graders was too stressful.
Maybe they’ve had discussions about national tends in math education but there is no published draft.
So you acknowledge VMPI is pushing detracking?
Depends what you mean by “pushing”?
Sharing a link?
Discussing national trends?
Anonymous
05/30/2021 10:58
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
You keep hyping published draft, when VMPI is doing more than writing some material.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 20:50
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Yes they have published a draft. It's what they've been talking about in their videos. They've been talking more to the division staff directly.
LCPS knew about the change in classes coming in a few years, and made changes accordingly. They may be revisiting given the walkback on tracking, but the change to algebra/geometry/algebra 2 can certainly be considered a first draft.
No - they don't have a "published draft" - they have a freakin' infographic.
If LCPS made changes to their course offerings based off an infographic then obviously that was premature.
No, LCPS staff had discussions with VMPI describing what they were implementing. Who knows what all they said to LCPS, but the staff came out of it arguing that giving tests for acceleration to 5th graders was too stressful.
Maybe they’ve had discussions about national tends in math education but there is no published draft.
So you acknowledge VMPI is pushing detracking?
Anonymous
05/27/2021 20:20
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Yes they have published a draft. It's what they've been talking about in their videos. They've been talking more to the division staff directly.
LCPS knew about the change in classes coming in a few years, and made changes accordingly. They may be revisiting given the walkback on tracking, but the change to algebra/geometry/algebra 2 can certainly be considered a first draft.
No - they don't have a "published draft" - they have a freakin' infographic.
If LCPS made changes to their course offerings based off an infographic then obviously that was premature.
No, LCPS staff had discussions with VMPI describing what they were implementing. Who knows what all they said to LCPS, but the staff came out of it arguing that giving tests for acceleration to 5th graders was too stressful.
Maybe they’ve had discussions about national tends in math education but there is no published draft.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 19:59
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Yes they have published a draft. It's what they've been talking about in their videos. They've been talking more to the division staff directly.
LCPS knew about the change in classes coming in a few years, and made changes accordingly. They may be revisiting given the walkback on tracking, but the change to algebra/geometry/algebra 2 can certainly be considered a first draft.
No - they don't have a "published draft" - they have a freakin' infographic.
If LCPS made changes to their course offerings based off an infographic then obviously that was premature.
No, LCPS staff had discussions with VMPI describing what they were implementing. Who knows what all they said to LCPS, but the staff came out of it arguing that giving tests for acceleration to 5th graders was too stressful.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 18:54
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Yes they have published a draft. It's what they've been talking about in their videos. They've been talking more to the division staff directly.
LCPS knew about the change in classes coming in a few years, and made changes accordingly. They may be revisiting given the walkback on tracking, but the change to algebra/geometry/algebra 2 can certainly be considered a first draft.
No - they don't have a "published draft" - they have a freakin' infographic.
If LCPS made changes to their course offerings based off an infographic then obviously that was premature.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 14:43
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Teachers in a poll were against detracking. VMPI's response, 'We still have a lot of work to do.'
And they are no longer pushing it. Get over it.
No longer pushing it directly. They are still working on it.
And they are pushing it on their website with the links, calling it broad national scholarship.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 14:42
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Yes they have published a draft. It's what they've been talking about in their videos. They've been talking more to the division staff directly.
LCPS knew about the change in classes coming in a few years, and made changes accordingly. They may be revisiting given the walkback on tracking, but the change to algebra/geometry/algebra 2 can certainly be considered a first draft.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 13:44
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
LCPS didn't "implement VMPI" because VMPI hasn't even published a draft yet. Unless some dumba$$ there prematurely adopted what they thought was VMPI.
More likely....LCPS was already planning these changes.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 13:42
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Teachers in a poll were against detracking. VMPI's response, 'We still have a lot of work to do.'
And they are no longer pushing it. Get over it.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 12:17
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Teachers in a poll were against detracking. VMPI's response, 'We still have a lot of work to do.'
Anonymous
05/27/2021 12:10
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't feel reassured at all, I just feel like they are waiting for the hysteria to die down and they will present the same exact thing again with slightly different words.
If they try it again, I'm sure someone will alert the community and the same reaction will play out again.
Except then there won't be an election looming.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 11:45
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Tell that to the kids not in algebra or prealgebra next year because of what LCPS did to implement VMPI.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 00:09
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.
Implemented what? The proposal doesn’t even have a draft yet.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 23:50
Subject: Jay Matthews: VMPI Probably Will Keep Tracking Just Because of Parent Pressure
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this is what they produced, yes. Links to equity for math, 'parents need to give up their privilege for equitable schooling'
heterogeneous classrooms, calculus isn't important to take in high school, etc.
Omg - they posted one link to detracking. Better freak out.
Plus said, "VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated"
And LCPS has already implemented it.