Rich Asian slackers go to the UK, Australia or the US for university, but not to the top schools. Think places like Southern Illinois, Rowan, Hawaii Pacific, and the like, although those that didn't slack too much wind up at BU, Pepperdine.

Many poor Asian slackers go to polytechnics to get the equivalent of an associate's degree. You will see a rare few that score highly and transfer their credits to a good overseas university. Others will do online learning like University of London. Many will not go to university at all.

With regard to Asian universities that take in non-Asians, look at Yale-NUS and Singapore Management University (which follows the Wharton curriculum). Both schools instruct in English and take quite a few non Asians to create their version of diversity; 40% of Yale-NUS is international, and 8% of SMU is international. 8% international is higher than most US universities, and 40% definitely is.

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Anonymous wrote:Clarence Thomas is an a**hole. Bought my house near Potomac Ave Metro in 1996 and liked it better then. Have had Black doctors take care of me many times and one performed a surgery that saved my life so I’m not following the pp above.
I’m white btw.

My question about college admissions is — would the majority of the student body be Asian if Asians weren’t limited by quota at selective schools? Unfair to Asians but whites wouldn’t get to go to selective schools nor would anyone else. A few but the campuses will be Asian dominated.

How does this make you feel? Reach deep and tell the truth. I’m going to admit that it makes me uneasy but I don’t know what the right answer is.

Totally for it as long as best colleges in Asia lets an equal amount of white people.

How many whites do you know that speak the language to function in Asia?

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I'm curious, if anyone has the knowledge, if elite colleges in other parts of the world such as Canada or the EU also value representation of diversity (in ethnicity/ race/ SES/ first generation/ extra curricular activities) like colleges here, or are they mostly based on test scores and GPA when it comes to admissions?

I once attended a McGill orientation during an American Thanksgiving weekend, so the audience was mostly Americans. The said that admissions to the main faculties (Art, Science, etc.) do no consider legacy, race, extracurriculars, wealth, gender, letters of recommendation, or anything else besides high school grades and standardized test scores. If you are over the cutoff on those, you are accepted. Very straightforward.

This is not universal at all schools across Canada, but pretty typical.

UK is the same. My DC has dual citizenship with UK, and DC is seriously considering UK uni because they don't care about e.c. or diversity.

This isn't true at all. lol

In countries where colleges admit mainly based on scores - what happens when there are more applicants who meet the required scores? How do they reject them? The lowest scores - even if they are still above cutoff - get rejected?

In this country, you often hear how students who were slackers in high school eventually get their act together and become successful. What happens to those type of people? Is their future severely limited because they were slackers in high school?

Yes, in some of these countries, if you were not born into a wealthy family that could afford tutors or if you slacked off as early as elementary school, which determines which middle school you can go to, that determines which high school you can enroll in, then ultimately which uni. The cut off may change from year to year. If you google "Gao Kao", you will get a taste of what university entrance exams look like.

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I'm curious, if anyone has the knowledge, if elite colleges in other parts of the world such as Canada or the EU also value representation of diversity (in ethnicity/ race/ SES/ first generation/ extra curricular activities) like colleges here, or are they mostly based on test scores and GPA when it comes to admissions?

I once attended a McGill orientation during an American Thanksgiving weekend, so the audience was mostly Americans. The said that admissions to the main faculties (Art, Science, etc.) do no consider legacy, race, extracurriculars, wealth, gender, letters of recommendation, or anything else besides high school grades and standardized test scores. If you are over the cutoff on those, you are accepted. Very straightforward.

This is not universal at all schools across Canada, but pretty typical.

UK is the same. My DC has dual citizenship with UK, and DC is seriously considering UK uni because they don't care about e.c. or diversity.

This isn't true at all. lol

In countries where colleges admit mainly based on scores - what happens when there are more applicants who meet the required scores? How do they reject them? The lowest scores - even if they are still above cutoff - get rejected?

In this country, you often hear how students who were slackers in high school eventually get their act together and become successful. What happens to those type of people? Is their future severely limited because they were slackers in high school?

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Anonymous wrote:Is discrimination against Asians and whites that different?

Yes. Being White is a net-neutral to slightly negative factor.

Being Asian is a materially negative factor.

100% agree. Don't tick Asian... unless the applicant is applying to a lib art/humanities major. Agree that White is net-neutral. Or don't check anything... I think asking the question is racist and offensive... especially when some answers will disadvantage the applicant.

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I'm curious, if anyone has the knowledge, if elite colleges in other parts of the world such as Canada or the EU also value representation of diversity (in ethnicity/ race/ SES/ first generation/ extra curricular activities) like colleges here, or are they mostly based on test scores and GPA when it comes to admissions?

I once attended a McGill orientation during an American Thanksgiving weekend, so the audience was mostly Americans. The said that admissions to the main faculties (Art, Science, etc.) do no consider legacy, race, extracurriculars, wealth, gender, letters of recommendation, or anything else besides high school grades and standardized test scores. If you are over the cutoff on those, you are accepted. Very straightforward.

This is not universal at all schools across Canada, but pretty typical.

UK is the same. My DC has dual citizenship with UK, and DC is seriously considering UK uni because they don't care about e.c. or diversity.

This isn't true at all. lol

Yes actually it is true. I’ve lived there. Husband taught at A level independent schools. The only thing UK schools care about is predicted grades. Not saying the won’t look at the rest of the students profile, but race and ethnicity and URM etc isn’t looked at the same way it is in the states.

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Anonymous wrote:Clarence Thomas is an a**hole. Bought my house near Potomac Ave Metro in 1996 and liked it better then. Have had Black doctors take care of me many times and one performed a surgery that saved my life so I’m not following the pp above.
I’m white btw.

My question about college admissions is — would the majority of the student body be Asian if Asians weren’t limited by quota at selective schools? Unfair to Asians but whites wouldn’t get to go to selective schools nor would anyone else. A few but the campuses will be Asian dominated.

How does this make you feel? Reach deep and tell the truth. I’m going to admit that it makes me uneasy but I don’t know what the right answer is.

Totally for it as long as best colleges in Asia lets an equal amount of white people.

You are absolutely idiotic.

Even if your logic made sense (which it doesn't, at all; Asian Americans are American, full stop, so your invoking Asian colleges makes as much sense as invoking European colleges when talking about white Americans), guess what, you imbecile: white students are coveted at universities across east Asia. Westerners, especially white Westerners, have a significantly easier time gaining acceptance to some of Asia's most prestigious schools than natives.

Check yourself, and try not to be a racist.

That is fascinating. Whites have an easier time getting into School in Asia? How does that work if it is done based on “merit”? Or is there some sort of what affirmative action program? I had never heard that it was easier for whites to get in there.

I would be fine with Asian Americans being the vast majority of students at premier institutions. If they deserve it. Anyone who deserves it. It's how they do it at places like Caltech, and it's the right thing.

That was easy. You don't have to reach deep down to know what the right thing to do is, if you have common sense and ethics.

They're Americans. Who cares about their physical experience?

If you attend a selective school do you think you get a better job or receive better grad school opportunities than if you don't?

Historically this has been the experience of predominantly white grads but times are changing. One step forward and two steps back but it's changing.

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Anonymous wrote:Clarence Thomas is an a**hole. Bought my house near Potomac Ave Metro in 1996 and liked it better then. Have had Black doctors take care of me many times and one performed a surgery that saved my life so I’m not following the pp above.
I’m white btw.

My question about college admissions is — would the majority of the student body be Asian if Asians weren’t limited by quota at selective schools? Unfair to Asians but whites wouldn’t get to go to selective schools nor would anyone else. A few but the campuses will be Asian dominated.

How does this make you feel? Reach deep and tell the truth. I’m going to admit that it makes me uneasy but I don’t know what the right answer is.

Totally for it as long as best colleges in Asia lets an equal amount of white people.

You are absolutely idiotic.

Even if your logic made sense (which it doesn't, at all; Asian Americans are American, full stop, so your invoking Asian colleges makes as much sense as invoking European colleges when talking about white Americans), guess what, you imbecile: white students are coveted at universities across east Asia. Westerners, especially white Westerners, have a significantly easier time gaining acceptance to some of Asia's most prestigious schools than natives.

Check yourself, and try not to be a racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Clarence Thomas is an a**hole. Bought my house near Potomac Ave Metro in 1996 and liked it better then. Have had Black doctors take care of me many times and one performed a surgery that saved my life so I’m not following the pp above.
I’m white btw.

My question about college admissions is — would the majority of the student body be Asian if Asians weren’t limited by quota at selective schools? Unfair to Asians but whites wouldn’t get to go to selective schools nor would anyone else. A few but the campuses will be Asian dominated.

How does this make you feel? Reach deep and tell the truth. I’m going to admit that it makes me uneasy but I don’t know what the right answer is.

Totally for it as long as best colleges in Asia lets an equal amount of white people.

You do realize we are talking about Americans of Asian descent, dummy. Some of whom have been here longer than some white people.

Anonymous wrote:Clarence Thomas is an a**hole. Bought my house near Potomac Ave Metro in 1996 and liked it better then. Have had Black doctors take care of me many times and one performed a surgery that saved my life so I’m not following the pp above.
I’m white btw.

My question about college admissions is — would the majority of the student body be Asian if Asians weren’t limited by quota at selective schools? Unfair to Asians but whites wouldn’t get to go to selective schools nor would anyone else. A few but the campuses will be Asian dominated.

How does this make you feel? Reach deep and tell the truth. I’m going to admit that it makes me uneasy but I don’t know what the right answer is.

Totally for it as long as best colleges in Asia lets an equal amount of white people.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, for those of you who have never laid eyes on the Common Application, please don't give bad advice. There is not one single "box" to check. The common app allows you to check multiple boxes, and if you check Asian there will be a drop down menu for Chinese, Korean etc.

You should absolutely have them check the Vietnamese box. That is one of the under-represented Asian groups so it is actually helpful.

How about teaching your kid to be honest.

Especially on a high stakes form they have to sign.

Um, the OP said her child is part Vietnamese.

Anyway, if I was going to pick the most underrepresented Asian group it wouldn't be Vietnamese.

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Anonymous wrote:I will never understand the mental gymnastics white people will do to justify anti-Asian American discrimination in the college admissions process.

I'm liberal, progressive, and I believe that affirmative action policies are a net good on society. This also comes with the understanding that Asian Americans do indeed need to perform better, score higher, and will ultimately be at a net disadvantage compared to their non-Asian peers. This is corroborated by decades of third-party research and evidence. I'm not complaining, since it is what it is and I've accepted it as a fact. But to throw Asians under the bus and make assumptions about how they behave, think, and policing how they should respond to this is frankly a little disturbing.

If you're placing the blame on Asians and Asian families, trust me -- you're on the complete wrong side of history on this one.

Affirmative action is a net negative on society, particularly for the URMs. Whoever sought out URM doctors, lawyers, engineers, CPAs...? There will always be a perception that URMs just aren't as good, can't compete, etc. Net negative. Not net positive.

This perception of black people specifically has always existed even before the creation of affirmative action. The reverse psychological games white people like to play always seems to amaze me when this topic comes up.

What even more funny is white people see themselves as the standard for humanity and that every white professional is competent just because. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I'm curious, if anyone has the knowledge, if elite colleges in other parts of the world such as Canada or the EU also value representation of diversity (in ethnicity/ race/ SES/ first generation/ extra curricular activities) like colleges here, or are they mostly based on test scores and GPA when it comes to admissions?

I once attended a McGill orientation during an American Thanksgiving weekend, so the audience was mostly Americans. The said that admissions to the main faculties (Art, Science, etc.) do no consider legacy, race, extracurriculars, wealth, gender, letters of recommendation, or anything else besides high school grades and standardized test scores. If you are over the cutoff on those, you are accepted. Very straightforward.

This is not universal at all schools across Canada, but pretty typical.

UK is the same. My DC has dual citizenship with UK, and DC is seriously considering UK uni because they don't care about e.c. or diversity.

This isn't true at all. lol