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And I was not the PP who said Blair had some of the lowest scores in the county. Looking at the chart, it scores 16 points above the county average. It should be noted that, as a magnet, Blair should have some of the highest scores in the county just like RM but it doesn't.

Huh? The mean scores for the Blair magnet itself are comparable to RMIB itself.

Blair: 1531
RM: 1500

https://mbhs.edu/departments/counseling/MagnetProfile.pdf

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/rmhs/ib/2020-2021-ib_insert.pdf?usp=sharing

I meant when averaged in with the rest of the schools.

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True, I remember reading the post that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W. Some people argued but the magnet which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. It goes to show that Blair envy is a real thing.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

It's nice to see a direct comparison between cohorts to account for demographic differences to see how these schools to see how they really stack up. Guessing there may be two dozen out of boundary magnet students in this mix but that shouldn't really change the bigger picture by more than 20-30 points.

Yes, the grade has 100 magnet students, A dozen or more in-boundary anyway and fewer than 30 are included in this cohort so yes the impact is pretty negligible.

Perhaps, it goes to show that the same kid will do well at any school, but regardless it's fascinating that using demographic cohort as a proxy for SES differences paints a very different picture than a simple average.

Anonymous wrote:The magnet is less than 30% white which is the cohort being listed at 1326 SAT average. So what 25 out of boundary white kids at Blair out of the 300+ seniors who took the SAT that year?

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And I was not the PP who said Blair had some of the lowest scores in the county. Looking at the chart, it scores 16 points above the county average. It should be noted that, as a magnet, Blair should have some of the highest scores in the county just like RM but it doesn't.

Huh? The mean scores for the Blair magnet itself are comparable to RMIB itself.

Blair: 1531
RM: 1500

https://mbhs.edu/departments/counseling/MagnetProfile.pdf

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/rmhs/ib/2020-2021-ib_insert.pdf?usp=sharing

I meant when averaged in with the rest of the schools.

So, Blair: 1142
RM: 1201

The schools have different general populations. Blair has only 12.5% of its students in the magnet, while RM has 20%. Blair has 33% FARMS, RM has 19%.

A big difference is Blair's magnet is heavily Asian which is not part of the cohort. Further, Blair is the largest high school in MCPS so a propportionally larger percentage of its magnet are also in-boundary. The previous post was correct in stating the magnet's impact was mininal.

That’s not true, 78% of Blair’s magnet do not live IB. People conflate that most of the magnet went to Takoma middle but that is only because of its magnet program drew them in prior. Let’s not forget the whole charter of the magnet program was to raise the perception of the local school and encourage upper SES kids to self integrate a school chosen for its demographic trends. Not to enrich local kids

The levels go up and down year by year but that doesn’t mean many aren’t from the DCC. It isn’t like they are all from Bethesda

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And I was not the PP who said Blair had some of the lowest scores in the county. Looking at the chart, it scores 16 points above the county average. It should be noted that, as a magnet, Blair should have some of the highest scores in the county just like RM but it doesn't.

Huh? The mean scores for the Blair magnet itself are comparable to RMIB itself.

Blair: 1531
RM: 1500

https://mbhs.edu/departments/counseling/MagnetProfile.pdf

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/rmhs/ib/2020-2021-ib_insert.pdf?usp=sharing

I meant when averaged in with the rest of the schools.

So, Blair: 1142
RM: 1201

The schools have different general populations. Blair has only 12.5% of its students in the magnet, while RM has 20%. Blair has 33% FARMS, RM has 19%.

A big difference is Blair's magnet is heavily Asian which is not part of the cohort. Further, Blair is the largest high school in MCPS so a propportionally larger percentage of its magnet are also in-boundary. The previous post was correct in stating the magnet's impact was mininal.

That’s not true, 78% of Blair’s magnet do not live IB. People conflate that most of the magnet went to Takoma middle but that is only because of its magnet program drew them in prior. Let’s not forget the whole charter of the magnet program was to raise the perception of the local school and encourage upper SES kids to self integrate a school chosen for its demographic trends. Not to enrich local kids

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And I was not the PP who said Blair had some of the lowest scores in the county. Looking at the chart, it scores 16 points above the county average. It should be noted that, as a magnet, Blair should have some of the highest scores in the county just like RM but it doesn't.

Huh? The mean scores for the Blair magnet itself are comparable to RMIB itself.

Blair: 1531
RM: 1500

https://mbhs.edu/departments/counseling/MagnetProfile.pdf

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/rmhs/ib/2020-2021-ib_insert.pdf?usp=sharing

I meant when averaged in with the rest of the schools.

So, Blair: 1142
RM: 1201

The schools have different general populations. Blair has only 12.5% of its students in the magnet, while RM has 20%. Blair has 33% FARMS, RM has 19%.

A big difference is Blair's magnet is heavily Asian which is not part of the cohort. Further, Blair is the largest high school in MCPS so a propportionally larger percentage of its magnet are also in-boundary. The previous post was correct in stating the magnet's impact was mininal.

That’s not true, 78% of Blair’s magnet do not live IB. People conflate that most of the magnet went to Takoma middle but that is only because of its magnet program drew them in prior. Let’s not forget the whole charter of the magnet program was to raise the perception of the local school and encourage upper SES kids to self integrate a school chosen for its demographic trends. Not to enrich local kids

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True, I remember reading the post that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W. Some people argued but the magnet which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. It goes to show that Blair envy is a real thing.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

It's nice to see a direct comparison between cohorts to account for demographic differences to see how these schools to see how they really stack up. Guessing there may be two dozen out of boundary magnet students in this mix but that shouldn't really change the bigger picture by more than 20-30 points.