Ha! I don't even want to dine out with vaccinated kids.

It's not just the risk--it's the risk/reward ratio. I don't like restaurants enough to take any heightened level of risk in the service of getting into one. Sitting in an indoor space with maskless adults with the diagram of the Korean restaurant transmission study in my head for an hour or two would not be my idea of a good time.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. We just did yesterday.

So did we. Yesterday and today.

Just came back from dinner with our two kids. The restaurant seemed full of elderly people, who have presumably been vaccinated. It was nice to see the older folks out. Not sure why people our age are still staying away, though.

I picked up food from a restaurant two nights ago. 70% full. 100% seniors.

Another reason, besides health concerns, that it was imperative to get the seniors vaccinated first- they've been itching to get out and don't have to deal with the unvaccinated kid issue. Boon for the economy.

Kids have suffered disproportionately during this pandemic. If vaccinated seniors aren’t ready to to take on risk, they should stay home.

Yes we did and we have.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. We just did yesterday.

So did we. Yesterday and today.

Just came back from dinner with our two kids. The restaurant seemed full of elderly people, who have presumably been vaccinated. It was nice to see the older folks out. Not sure why people our age are still staying away, though.

I picked up food from a restaurant two nights ago. 70% full. 100% seniors.

Another reason, besides health concerns, that it was imperative to get the seniors vaccinated first- they've been itching to get out and don't have to deal with the unvaccinated kid issue. Boon for the economy.

Do w hat you want, OP and disciples. Cases are going up in Maryland and we will see a spring surge b/c you all can't stay away from Olive Garden

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Jesus Christ are people this mental? There are about 52,000 things you do every day without thinking that are statistically more dangerous to your kids than covid.

Let them live a regular life already!!

Americans are terrible at risk assessment. In a recent survey, Americans thought that your chance of dying after contracting covid were 17%.

Your kids are more at risk from dying in a car accident on the way to the restaurant, then they are from catching COVID there and dying.

Americans-- like all humans-- are terrible at understanding statistics, and large and small numbers.

A 1-2% chance of death is very high! Therefore many Americans, having correctly assessed the COVID is quite deadly, have (wrongly) assigned it a number much higher than is actually accurate-- because 1-2% "sounds low." It's not. If you had a 1-2% chance of dying every time you bought ice cream or took the subway, you would never do either of those things.

In any event, the risk involved with kids has never so much been them dying, but of them being disease vectors to the more vulnerable, somewhere down the chain. This may also not be an extremely high risk as compared to others-- but it's significant.

The 1-2% chance of death is based on the number of confirmed cases of covid, not the actual number, which is probably four times the confirmed number. So, the real rate is probably around 0.25% to 0.5%. And, no, that doesn’t mean that you have that percentage chance of dying every time you leave the house. Furthermore, the fatality rate is not uniform across the population. For my age group, it’s less this 0.1%.

So, long story short, the risk to our family from going to a restaurant is exceedingly low. If your personal risk is higher, you may want to make different decisions. But, it’s not my role to make risk calculations for other people.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Jesus Christ are people this mental? There are about 52,000 things you do every day without thinking that are statistically more dangerous to your kids than covid.

Let them live a regular life already!!

X 1000. We’re back to life as normal and have been since June. These lunatics can hunker away forever for all I care.

No one is vaccinated yet since we’re all low risk. Still living life.

And yes Karen I knowIm killing Grandma. 😁

Sad that you can joke about this. I wonder if that would be the case if you had more empathy, or if you had been more immediately impacted by this virus.
We've lost three loved ones this past year to covid, and my aunt and cousin are battling it at the moment.

How are all these loved ones catching Covid? What risks have they been taking?

In terms of dining out. I figure if dining out causes the grandma next to me to catch Covid then that is on her for taking the risk with her life by being in the restaurant.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Jesus Christ are people this mental? There are about 52,000 things you do every day without thinking that are statistically more dangerous to your kids than covid.

Let them live a regular life already!!

X 1000. We’re back to life as normal and have been since June. These lunatics can hunker away forever for all I care.

No one is vaccinated yet since we’re all low risk. Still living life.

And yes Karen I knowIm killing Grandma. 😁

Sad that you can joke about this. I wonder if that would be the case if you had more empathy, or if you had been more immediately impacted by this virus.
We've lost three loved ones this past year to covid, and my aunt and cousin are battling it at the moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I have two tweens and love eating out. We've been eating out since the beginning, whenever restaurants have been open. When the restaurants were closed in our county, we went to other counties to eat. There are always lots of other people there.

Face it; while you were hiding at home, the majority of people were out enjoying their lives. If it helps you to say that you were unselfish and considerate of others (or in reverse that we were selfish) by all means.
I'm just happy we didn't throw away a year of our lives.

Did you catch Covid?

My family started eating out last June, took a break for dec and Jan when cases increased and began again in feb. we’ve never had Covid.

Yes, kids at my school have been eating in groups since sept. No cases. Been eating out with my kid with no problems.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Jesus Christ are people this mental? There are about 52,000 things you do every day without thinking that are statistically more dangerous to your kids than covid.

Let them live a regular life already!!

Most of those things are not statistically more dangerous to the community than my kid contracting COVID.

Good thing we have vaccines now that are being offered to the people at risk for severe outcomes in the community. So, pretty soon, this won’t be a concern either.

Yes I would and I did.

Oops - sorry for auto correct typos. “Care home” not car home.

“For” not cue.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Jesus Christ are people this mental? There are about 52,000 things you do every day without thinking that are statistically more dangerous to your kids than covid.

Let them live a regular life already!!

Most of those things are not statistically more dangerous to the community than my kid contracting COVID.

Kids are very inefficient vectors of covid and we’ve known cue some time that asymptomatic spread is minimal.

So - your pathological need to deny science and act like anyone could be an infectious vector at any time when we know that’s just not how it works 98% of the time, is your own issue.

Me and my kids have eaten indoors at restaurants since June. They hung out with their friends maskless. So did I. I went on vacation with girlfriends in October. Surprise - none of us got covid. Anecdotally, the only ppl I know who did lived in a car home or in large multi family housing with lots of people working essential jobs. Anytime any of us had any whiff of illness or direct contact that might be sick, we stayed home.

Conversely, my kids aren’t suffering from the massive mental illness crisis that the kids of my friends are, who locked them up like they were diseased vectors for the last year. I’m sure it burns to know that you didn’t have to be all crazy like this all year, but doubling down on more crazy won’t change anything.