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Anonymous wrote:My working hypothesis is that the inflammatory teacher/union supporters on DCUM are in fact working for some pro-voucher lobbying group. They just say over-the-top, baiting stuff in order to make people get mad at unions.

Sounds like you're projecting.

I used to be a paid "troll" for unions. Here's why I don't think the people stating they are union supporters on DCUM are actual union supporters: The union's main target is always management. For example, when we went after certain grocery store products made by exploitative companies, we didn't yell at or shame shoppers. We certainly provided them information. But the goal was to get them on our side, not make them wholesale hate us. We had actions aimed at specific corporate owners.

But you? You're just professing to be mad at random parents who are already frustrated and tired. They've already found they have little individual power. They are hardly organized. Picking them off individually does you no good.

I will say that you are quite adept at your profession. You elicit anger left and right. Do keep it up.

Also, I might play...I wonder if anyone will be able to tell who is me (masquerading as you) and you.

Everyone likes to claim keeping schools closed is political but no one can ever answer what would be the possible political advantage to keeping them closed unnecessarily? There is none. Zero. It is a stupid, small minded talking point. Every municipality is managing this differently and we won’t know for some time who made the right call. Not until the dust has settled and the data are sorted will we know.

The political advantage is to appear to be the protectors of teachers, including their life and health. Any mention of the needs of children is dismissed as selfish and classist.

Well, it all started when Trump said to open schools. It was probably the only intelligent thing he ever said, but because Trump said it, it became socially unacceptable to advocate for anything other than basement dwelling (regardless of “the science”) . . . And here we are . . . Democrats in favor of undermining working mothers and not educating children. Truly unbelievable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone likes to claim keeping schools closed is political but no one can ever answer what would be the possible political advantage to keeping them closed unnecessarily? There is none. Zero. It is a stupid, small minded talking point. Every municipality is managing this differently and we won’t know for some time who made the right call. Not until the dust has settled and the data are sorted will we know.

The political advantage is to appear to be the protectors of teachers, including their life and health. Any mention of the needs of children is dismissed as selfish and classist.

Well, it all started when Trump said to open schools. It was probably the only intelligent thing he ever said, but because Trump said it, it became socially unacceptable to advocate for anything other than basement dwelling (regardless of “the science”) . . . And here we are . . . Democrats in favor of undermining working mothers and not educating children. Truly unbelievable.

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Anonymous wrote:Specifically, it sounds like the union is attempting to frame the debate by arguing that everyone for school opening is operating in bad faith. That's obviously not true.

Which union? Why do hysterics on this board blame the union for everything?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone likes to claim keeping schools closed is political but no one can ever answer what would be the possible political advantage to keeping them closed unnecessarily? There is none. Zero. It is a stupid, small minded talking point. Every municipality is managing this differently and we won’t know for some time who made the right call. Not until the dust has settled and the data are sorted will we know.

The political advantage is to appear to be the protectors of teachers, including their life and health. Any mention of the needs of children is dismissed as selfish and classist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My working hypothesis is that the inflammatory teacher/union supporters on DCUM are in fact working for some pro-voucher lobbying group. They just say over-the-top, baiting stuff in order to make people get mad at unions.

Sounds like you're projecting.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone likes to claim keeping schools closed is political but no one can ever answer what would be the possible political advantage to keeping them closed unnecessarily? There is none. Zero. It is a stupid, small minded talking point. Every municipality is managing this differently and we won’t know for some time who made the right call. Not until the dust has settled and the data are sorted will we know.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My working hypothesis is that the inflammatory teacher/union supporters on DCUM are in fact working for some pro-voucher lobbying group. They just say over-the-top, baiting stuff in order to make people get mad at unions.

Sounds like you're projecting.

I am as democrat as it gets, but there is nothing more important right now than (safely) reopening schools. When schools in the rest of the US are reopening, and schools in Europe barely closed, it is unconscionable that kids in MoCo have not been in school for a year.

+100. I am basically anti-public sector* union now. And I am a democratic socialist. And it is not that I haven't been paying attention. The more I pay attention the more disgusted I get.

*Note: Not anti- the right to unionize. But is is silly to close your eyes to the moral hazard entailed in certain specific public sector union fights, like this one.

All public sector unions should be pissed at teachers. You don’t see sanitation workers refusing to come to work.

Anonymous wrote:I am as democrat as it gets, but there is nothing more important right now than (safely) reopening schools. When schools in the rest of the US are reopening, and schools in Europe barely closed, it is unconscionable that kids in MoCo have not been in school for a year.

+100. I am basically anti-public sector* union now. And I am a democratic socialist. And it is not that I haven't been paying attention. The more I pay attention the more disgusted I get.

*Note: Not anti- the right to unionize. But is is silly to close your eyes to the moral hazard entailed in certain specific public sector union fights, like this one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My working hypothesis is that the inflammatory teacher/union supporters on DCUM are in fact working for some pro-voucher lobbying group. They just say over-the-top, baiting stuff in order to make people get mad at unions.

Sounds like you're projecting.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh god. It's like we haven't been able to watch WTU back out of agreements it signs. Repeatedly. For a year. Apparently none of that happened.

The union supporters on DCUM seem pretty divorced from reality.

This is the general schools forum. We don't all follow the DC negotiations...

Anonymous wrote:My working hypothesis is that the inflammatory teacher/union supporters on DCUM are in fact working for some pro-voucher lobbying group. They just say over-the-top, baiting stuff in order to make people get mad at unions.