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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

So you have no idea? Because your answer is rather deliberately broad. Good job?

Unfortunately, this is probably true. At our FCPS HS, my son knows 2 seniors with comparable GPAs (4.2-4.3 weighted) and SATs (1480+), both UMC and not URM.

One applied ED and got in.

One applied EA and was rejected (he was a double-legacy).

Also know a Latino son of UVA alum who was also rejected in EA, also with comparable stats to the first two kids.

UVA just decided not to let a good pandemic go to waste and pivoted, to the detriment of many.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

We can afford Michigan too and hubby is happy because he is an alum. I personally find it maddening that our well qualified kid can’t get into their own state flagship especially after paying taxes in Virginia for 25+ years. Rant over and congrats to those that got into UVA. Go Blue!

If he wanted UVA he should have ED’d.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

What is your Michigan-bound son’s proposed major?

My contention is that too many high-stat kids want to major in CS and engineering. There are only so many seats in VA schools. Perhaps, capacity in those majors should be expanded, but that will take time. We’re talking about buildings, labs, professors, dorms, etc. In the meantime, students need to think beyond VA and maybe beyond the East Coast.

PP here. DC will study economics in LSA or business in Ross (still waiting on that one).

He was EA deferred but got in during the March 5 "mini-wave" that seemed to focus on alumni kids (I am also a Wolverine). We are so lucky he got into UM, because he was rejected VT, waitlisted BC, and admitted Pitt and VT.

We had told DC months ago that UVA was going to be a stretch. He didn't want to apply but we made him do it anyway. Who knows, he may end up at UVA for grad school, LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

We can afford Michigan too and hubby is happy because he is an alum. I personally find it maddening that our well qualified kid can’t get into their own state flagship especially after paying taxes in Virginia for 25+ years. Rant over and congrats to those that got into UVA. Go Blue!

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

What is your Michigan-bound son’s proposed major?

My contention is that too many high-stat kids want to major in CS and engineering. There are only so many seats in VA schools. Perhaps, capacity in those majors should be expanded, but that will take time. We’re talking about buildings, labs, professors, dorms, etc. In the meantime, students need to think beyond VA and maybe beyond the East Coast.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

Yet you're convinced it's the ES that made the difference as opposed to the over 75 percentile stats. Ok.

NP. Dean J specifically addressed this in one of her Instagram live Q&As. She said that Eagle Scout was treated no indifferently than any other extracurricular.

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

Yet you're convinced it's the ES that made the difference as opposed to the over 75 percentile stats. Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone receive an acceptance to UVA College at Wise while on wait list? Does anyone have any experience with the school?

Former Clinch Valley College. In the middle of nowhere. UVA dangles the carrot of a transfer to Charlottesville for students who start at Wise.

They said it's an automatic transfer if you meet the requirements of 30 hours and 3.0 GPA. Is this a scam? Would it be better to go to GMU or VCU?

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone receive an acceptance to UVA College at Wise while on wait list? Does anyone have any experience with the school?

Former Clinch Valley College. In the middle of nowhere. UVA dangles the carrot of a transfer to Charlottesville for students who start at Wise.

Did anyone receive an acceptance to UVA College at Wise while on wait list? Does anyone have any experience with the school?

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

Look at the stats of this denied international:

SAT 1530, SAT IIs: 800,790,780,660, ECs: quite good ngl GPA: about 3.9