Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 16:19     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader is introverted but is very strong-willed, curious about other people, and talkative with family and friends. During DL, she keeps her camera off, does not volunteer any answers or participate in sessions, and doesn’t interact with her peers. DD hates when the teacher calls on her or when they have to participate in break-out groups. She is a top student, loves distance learning, and would happy to have DL continue indefinitely.


Exactly. DL is terrible for a lot of kids.


That's how I read it too.


Sounds like her DD is finally doing school in a way that’s comfortable for her. I have one of those. It’s incredible how far she’s come this year. The anxiety of being AT school is gone and she can really LEARN. My other kid is hating life though for sure.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 16:17     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader is introverted but is very strong-willed, curious about other people, and talkative with family and friends. During DL, she keeps her camera off, does not volunteer any answers or participate in sessions, and doesn’t interact with her peers. DD hates when the teacher calls on her or when they have to participate in break-out groups. She is a top student, loves distance learning, and would happy to have DL continue indefinitely.


Exactly. DL is terrible for a lot of kids.


That's how I read it too.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:51     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:I asked my students what they missed most and least about normal school . Most: friends. That’s like... it. Maybe a few said things like pep rally and football games. What they miss Least: seeing teachers, being in class with people they don’t like, group work, classes they don’t like, school lunch, the chairs, the long days, the school security officer, having to ask to go to the bathroom, the lack of freedom. It was realllllly eye opening. I mean, we all know this is true for most to some degree. School on the whole is a not wholly pleasant experience. But when you ask them what do you MISS... they miss very little beyond their friends and getting out of the house every day. I asked my own kids too but they’re younger so their responses were different.

I highly recommend this. I realize a lot of teachers do make kids’ lives harder and though they like or tolerate some, there’s a lot they really don’t miss at all, one but. And of course I had teachers like that too. In some ways we all represent and uphold the system. Some of their grievances aren’t fair to us but some are legitimate.



I remember how humiliating it was to ask for a hall pass to use a bathroom. The short breaks between classes did not help.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:35     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nope.



OP here. So they are extroverted? How much friend time do they get? Are they in a pod? Just trying to understand.


NP here:

I have a very extroverted teen. She gets face time with friends thru sports and occasional outdoor get togethers (masked) with a Friend or two. She will likely stay DL.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:26     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:I asked my students what they missed most and least about normal school . Most: friends. That’s like... it. Maybe a few said things like pep rally and football games. What they miss Least: seeing teachers, being in class with people they don’t like, group work, classes they don’t like, school lunch, the chairs, the long days, the school security officer, having to ask to go to the bathroom, the lack of freedom. It was realllllly eye opening. I mean, we all know this is true for most to some degree. School on the whole is a not wholly pleasant experience. But when you ask them what do you MISS... they miss very little beyond their friends and getting out of the house every day. I asked my own kids too but they’re younger so their responses were different.

I highly recommend this. I realize a lot of teachers do make kids’ lives harder and though they like or tolerate some, there’s a lot they really don’t miss at all, one but. And of course I had teachers like that too. In some ways we all represent and uphold the system. Some of their grievances aren’t fair to us but some are legitimate.


I mean, that's how I remember it too. It can be stifling to a lot of kids (mine included), who likes the more free atmosphere at home, not asking to use the bathroom (and worse, teachers actually saying no to that). I had teachers I LOVED, and so does DD. But, that doesn't overcome the many negatives noted above.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:21     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader is introverted but is very strong-willed, curious about other people, and talkative with family and friends. During DL, she keeps her camera off, does not volunteer any answers or participate in sessions, and doesn’t interact with her peers. DD hates when the teacher calls on her or when they have to participate in break-out groups. She is a top student, loves distance learning, and would happy to have DL continue indefinitely.


Exactly. DL is terrible for a lot of kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:18     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:I asked my students what they missed most and least about normal school . Most: friends. That’s like... it. Maybe a few said things like pep rally and football games. What they miss Least: seeing teachers, being in class with people they don’t like, group work, classes they don’t like, school lunch, the chairs, the long days, the school security officer, having to ask to go to the bathroom, the lack of freedom. It was realllllly eye opening. I mean, we all know this is true for most to some degree. School on the whole is a not wholly pleasant experience. But when you ask them what do you MISS... they miss very little beyond their friends and getting out of the house every day. I asked my own kids too but they’re younger so their responses were different.

I highly recommend this. I realize a lot of teachers do make kids’ lives harder and though they like or tolerate some, there’s a lot they really don’t miss at all, one but. And of course I had teachers like that too. In some ways we all represent and uphold the system. Some of their grievances aren’t fair to us but some are legitimate.


Eventually they might start missing the academics and learning. DL is school-lite for many kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:18     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
My seventh grader is an extreme extravert, and she is thriving. She is completely virtual, but more social than ever, almost constantly on facetime with her best friend and very often in party chats where she stays on with old friends she hasn't seen in years sometimes for many hours. It is so much that I would limit it, but her grades are almost perfect and she is thriving in debate, so I'm not gonna fix what isn't broken.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 15:10     Subject: Re:Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
To:dr. Highly extroverted 5th grader loves DL. Loves real school but appreciates not having to deal with girl drama in the lunchroom, logs in early to chat with teachers. She would much rather be in person but is academically motivated so that helps too.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 14:46     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
My 6th grader is introverted but is very strong-willed, curious about other people, and talkative with family and friends. During DL, she keeps her camera off, does not volunteer any answers or participate in sessions, and doesn’t interact with her peers. DD hates when the teacher calls on her or when they have to participate in break-out groups. She is a top student, loves distance learning, and would happy to have DL continue indefinitely.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 14:18     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Oh PP- meant to add; for a lot, they don’t really “like” DL. But... there is a lotttttt about regular school they don’t like and most of those things aren’t present in DL so it’s more tolerable for those kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 14:17     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
I asked my students what they missed most and least about normal school . Most: friends. That’s like... it. Maybe a few said things like pep rally and football games. What they miss Least: seeing teachers, being in class with people they don’t like, group work, classes they don’t like, school lunch, the chairs, the long days, the school security officer, having to ask to go to the bathroom, the lack of freedom. It was realllllly eye opening. I mean, we all know this is true for most to some degree. School on the whole is a not wholly pleasant experience. But when you ask them what do you MISS... they miss very little beyond their friends and getting out of the house every day. I asked my own kids too but they’re younger so their responses were different.

I highly recommend this. I realize a lot of teachers do make kids’ lives harder and though they like or tolerate some, there’s a lot they really don’t miss at all, one but. And of course I had teachers like that too. In some ways we all represent and uphold the system. Some of their grievances aren’t fair to us but some are legitimate.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 14:10     Subject: Re:Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Also sounds like it is age dependent. If you are old enough to have a lot of autonomy, like meeting friends for lunch etc, sure its got perks. Or if your Zoom class isn't all that different from your HS lecture class anyway, that makes sense. Young kids are definitely thrown into the disruptive side of it more. Even if they don't hate it, I think you would be pressed to find a 1st grade kid who "loves" DL.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 14:04     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
My third grader isn't an introvert but he is pretty self-motivated. He likes DL because he can work at his own pace and usually has time to read or play. He is also able to get more extension activities and independent work which he enjoys. He is a rule follower and is bothered by distractions in the classroom so being home in the quiet is icing on the cake.
I teach in the mornings and our schedules don't align so he is 100% on his own.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 12:57     Subject: Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?
Anonymous wrote:I have an introvert kid and an extrovert kid, and they're both doing fine. The introvert would choose to stay in distance learning - he really likes that he has free time in between the classes to recharge and do independent things that he likes to work on. The extrovert looks forward to going back to school, but uses her free time to meet up with friends (outside, masked) or have virtual "playdate" type things with them.

Honestly what I've noticed in my circle is that the kids who are doing fine have parents who are doing fine. The moms I know who are losing it with quarantine have kids who are not doing well either. Small sample though, who knows. I'm sure lots of variables.


We are doing fine because of the privilege, tbh. We have a nanny who has been with us for years and watches our younger kids, we (parents) both work from home and support our elementary school child between the meetings. Our student loves DL. If we worked outside of the house and/or did not have a nanny, I'd be singing a different tune.