Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 22:15     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
The incompetence is hard to watch. Literally, the only sound is pages turn in a vain search for who knows what.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:58     Subject: Re:TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
It's embarrassing to watch this working session. FCPS doesn't even calculate middle school GPA. So this 3.5 GPA doesn't exist. FCPS has no idea how many will be in the pool. There is no way they can be sure more URMs will be in this pool.

FCPS doesn't collect data on why students don't apply to TJ. They don't collect data on why accepted students reject their offers. The only data they seem to have is too many Asians are in the semi-finalist round and the final round.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:56     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh my goodness, they are saying they don’t even know who has a 3.5 gpa! Yet they want us to believe their 3.5 gpa qualification yields a pool that will be more diverse.


So weird... couldn't somebody write a SQL script to crunch through the numbers pretty readily?


Seriously, GPA is calculated MANUALLY as part of the admission process to the #1 school in the US, a science and technology school. I bet half the student population or more can write a quick app to improve that process.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:54     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Anonymous wrote:Oh my goodness, they are saying they don’t even know who has a 3.5 gpa! Yet they want us to believe their 3.5 gpa qualification yields a pool that will be more diverse.


So weird... couldn't somebody write a SQL script to crunch through the numbers pretty readily?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:52     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Oh my goodness, they are saying they don’t even know who has a 3.5 gpa! Yet they want us to believe their 3.5 gpa qualification yields a pool that will be more diverse.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:46     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Making sure your prep center has the exam doesn’t hurt, either.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:41     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For one thing, I don't think FCPS has very good AARTs at the elementary schools. It also relies too heavily on elementary teachers to know how to recognize and rate gifted traits. I see extremely bright and hard-working African immigrants childfen at our local schools. They have parents who put in the time and effort to try and give the best to their kids. I always see those kids being ignored by the AAP process. I've seen more and a few teachers who try and give and edge to the children of their fellow teachers or friends.

AAP needs to be fixed before anything. These people making the proposal are doing a great disservice to the URMs by assuming that testing, or studying as hard as other ethnic groups is just not their thing. Within a couple of decades, we'll likely have African Immigrants being a shining minority. People should stop patronizing


My child used to attend Springfield Estates. That AAP center has lots of African immigrants and also some African Americans. African immigrants behave similarly to Asian immigrants including sending their children to kumon.


It's all about community culturere, has nothing to do with race.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:36     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Anonymous wrote:For one thing, I don't think FCPS has very good AARTs at the elementary schools. It also relies too heavily on elementary teachers to know how to recognize and rate gifted traits. I see extremely bright and hard-working African immigrants childfen at our local schools. They have parents who put in the time and effort to try and give the best to their kids. I always see those kids being ignored by the AAP process. I've seen more and a few teachers who try and give and edge to the children of their fellow teachers or friends.

AAP needs to be fixed before anything. These people making the proposal are doing a great disservice to the URMs by assuming that testing, or studying as hard as other ethnic groups is just not their thing. Within a couple of decades, we'll likely have African Immigrants being a shining minority. People should stop patronizing


My child used to attend Springfield Estates. That AAP center has lots of African immigrants and also some African Americans. African immigrants behave similarly to Asian immigrants including sending their children to kumon.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:35     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
the URM population and just make sure that they are being treated fairly at the elem schools
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:34     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
For one thing, I don't think FCPS has very good AARTs at the elementary schools. It also relies too heavily on elementary teachers to know how to recognize and rate gifted traits. I see extremely bright and hard-working African immigrants childfen at our local schools. They have parents who put in the time and effort to try and give the best to their kids. I always see those kids being ignored by the AAP process. I've seen more and a few teachers who try and give and edge to the children of their fellow teachers or friends.

AAP needs to be fixed before anything. These people making the proposal are doing a great disservice to the URMs by assuming that testing, or studying as hard as other ethnic groups is just not their thing. Within a couple of decades, we'll likely have African Immigrants being a shining minority. People should stop patronizing
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:26     Subject: Re:TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Anonymous wrote:McLaughlin, Tholen and Sizemore Heizer seem like the only ones who care about TJ actually serving a distinct purpose. The rest are just SJWs wanting to hand out goodies to black and Hispanic kids so they can scream equity. Brabrand sounds so tired trying to do their bidding. He put equity at the center of everything he does only to realize it’s more about politics than education.


Agree
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:24     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
So has the SB or Braband explained or discussed what is the key cause that led to such lack of diversity at TJ?

Is it the test prep culture?
Is it the pipeline that is not diverse enough?
Is it that admission decisions are racially biased?
Is it that the pressure-cooker culture at TJ is non desired by some students and families?

Not a FX resident and am just watching this from the sideline and wondering if these basic questions have been explored and answered before such a solution (aka lottery, partial or full) is proposed.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:23     Subject: Re:TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
McLaughlin, Tholen and Sizemore Heizer seem like the only ones who care about TJ actually serving a distinct purpose. The rest are just SJWs wanting to hand out goodies to black and Hispanic kids so they can scream equity. Brabrand sounds so tired trying to do their bidding. He put equity at the center of everything he does only to realize it’s more about politics than education.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 21:03     Subject: TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
So... a board made up of black and white members are holding an open workshop to engineer a new application process that will cut the asian admits in half and substantially increase the number of black and white students.... Do they really think there wo8be years and years of legal battles about this? Their little zoom video faces will probably end up in textbooks in the future
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2020 20:48     Subject: Re:TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does Keys Gamarra not realize that when she presses FCPS staff on how they will be “accountable“ for “meeting targets,” she is inviting them to admit there are quotas? They are evading her question because she is digging a legal hole for FCPS.

She is such an idiot. And why does Anderson let her ask questions for 10 minutes running? Are there no other School Board members, or did we just decide these two women get to run everything.


KKG is a lawyer. The reality is we might have an expanded Supreme Court and who know what with the Senate so they are certainly free to talk quota.
Brabrand and the lot of used ethical, bias in the test. Other than max test prep where's the bias?



No one with a functioning brain wants to go down the path of suggesting explicit racial quotas that are currently invalid based on speculation that a Democratic administration would pack a future Supreme Court with quota-friendly justices.


I bolded and yes it appears KKG and the others are doing the dance for quota friendly courts. Brabrand's 100 are top academics? No IMHO since these apps don't go in the bingo drum and experiential factors ...

Now it's a diatribe on free and reduced price meals. Merren on marginalized and disconnected students? What meeting is she in? Well this is what you get when the FCDC runs a pay for vote internal primary.