Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:33     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
How can you reject non-citizens from one or two countries and not all non-citizens? Think about that for a minute. You're saying a kid should have to be a documented US citizen to be able to apply to a public magnet school? The Washington Post would be all over that story.

No. non-citizens are fine. People who come across in their applications as moving to FCPS solely to attend TJ aren't. Since the process is holistic, they should have some ability to ferret out the people who seem to be here just for TJ.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:31     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:Do they give out visas for kids to come to high school from overseas? how does this work?

Some relative, like a parent, aunt, cousin, or whatever gets the work visa. Then, the relative gets guardianship of the kid, who moves here with the relative.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:31     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

This is why I think kids who aren't a part of FCPS from at least 5th grade onward should be heavily scrutinized and should have to clear a higher bar to be admitted to TJ. TJ should serve real FCPS students. It shouldn't serve FCPS tourists or private school kids (who are clearly more advantaged than their public school counterparts). TJ shouldn't even be accepting kids who are foreign citizens who move to FCPS in 7th or 8th solely to apply to TJ.



That's not legal, it's a public school.


How is it not legal? The application process is holistic, and they can accept or reject anyone using whatever criteria they use. Students rejected from TJ are still given a spot at their local high school.


How can you reject non-citizens from one or two countries and not all non-citizens? Think about that for a minute. You're saying a kid should have to be a documented US citizen to be able to apply to a public magnet school? The Washington Post would be all over that story.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:28     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Do they give out visas for kids to come to high school from overseas? how does this work?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:28     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


TJ is a high school, so graduates earn a diploma, not a degree.


Very important distinction. [/s]
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:26     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


TJ is a high school, so graduates earn a diploma, not a degree.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:25     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

This is why I think kids who aren't a part of FCPS from at least 5th grade onward should be heavily scrutinized and should have to clear a higher bar to be admitted to TJ. TJ should serve real FCPS students. It shouldn't serve FCPS tourists or private school kids (who are clearly more advantaged than their public school counterparts). TJ shouldn't even be accepting kids who are foreign citizens who move to FCPS in 7th or 8th solely to apply to TJ.



That's not legal, it's a public school.


How is it not legal? The application process is holistic, and they can accept or reject anyone using whatever criteria they use. Students rejected from TJ are still given a spot at their local high school.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:23     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


This is why I think kids who aren't a part of FCPS from at least 5th grade onward should be heavily scrutinized and should have to clear a higher bar to be admitted to TJ. TJ should serve real FCPS students. It shouldn't serve FCPS tourists or private school kids (who are clearly more advantaged than their public school counterparts). TJ shouldn't even be accepting kids who are foreign citizens who move to FCPS in 7th or 8th solely to apply to TJ.



That's not legal, it's a public school.


you could add a test in 6th grade to assess readiness and make it worth enough to make admission impossible with a zero score
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:22     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


This is why I think kids who aren't a part of FCPS from at least 5th grade onward should be heavily scrutinized and should have to clear a higher bar to be admitted to TJ. TJ should serve real FCPS students. It shouldn't serve FCPS tourists or private school kids (who are clearly more advantaged than their public school counterparts). TJ shouldn't even be accepting kids who are foreign citizens who move to FCPS in 7th or 8th solely to apply to TJ.



That's not legal, it's a public school.


they would still have a high school to attend - whatever their base school is
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:17     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


This is why I think kids who aren't a part of FCPS from at least 5th grade onward should be heavily scrutinized and should have to clear a higher bar to be admitted to TJ. TJ should serve real FCPS students. It shouldn't serve FCPS tourists or private school kids (who are clearly more advantaged than their public school counterparts). TJ shouldn't even be accepting kids who are foreign citizens who move to FCPS in 7th or 8th solely to apply to TJ.



That's not legal, it's a public school.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 12:16     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:^ Also, if these kids move from overseas to FCPS to apply for TJ, do they stay here if the kids are rejected, or do they return to their home country?


I am sure that there are examples of both.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 11:58     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

^ Also, if these kids move from overseas to FCPS to apply for TJ, do they stay here if the kids are rejected, or do they return to their home country?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 11:57     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


This is why I think kids who aren't a part of FCPS from at least 5th grade onward should be heavily scrutinized and should have to clear a higher bar to be admitted to TJ. TJ should serve real FCPS students. It shouldn't serve FCPS tourists or private school kids (who are clearly more advantaged than their public school counterparts). TJ shouldn't even be accepting kids who are foreign citizens who move to FCPS in 7th or 8th solely to apply to TJ.

Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 11:33     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


Weird. I wonder why those students aren't applying for schools in other Asian countries since someone posted that they are better in math + science than Americans. huh.


The obsession with TJ and the Ivies tells you that it's not about educational quality, but rather about prestige. Many of these communities still have an antiquated notion that the Ivy Leagues are the only schools that have networking opportunities and where the name gets you a seat at the table, and this is simply no longer the case in any meaningful sense.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2020 11:31     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would people from overseas be planning to go to TJ?
Unacceptable.


This has been happening for decades and became extremely popular when US News and World Report started putting out rankings of the best high schools in America. The massive South Asian immigration to Northern Virginia (not just from India, but also from other parts of the US) happened in part because of these rankings and a false belief that a degree from TJ is a ticket to an Ivy League school (fewer than 10% of TJ graduates attend Ivies).


Weird. I wonder why those students aren't applying for schools in other Asian countries since someone posted that they are better in math + science than Americans. huh.