Anonymous wrote:All of this is proof we have raised a generation of selfish partiers who care nothing for others if it means delaying any gratification for themselves.

That is obviously unfair to the thousands of students following the rules.

Anonymous wrote:All of this is proof we have raised a generation of selfish partiers who care nothing for others if it means delaying any gratification for themselves.

No, it's just a numbers game. In close quarters 95% can follow the rules and 5% can spread enough to create the problems. Every generation has at least 5% of folks who lack empathy and impulse control.

Come on. Millions of adults in America can’t be bothered to wear a mask.

People who live in congregate settings (prisons, nursing homes) or cramped places (poor people of color in cities) get COVID.

Students living in dorms (congregate settings) and crowded spaces (off campus) are at high risk.

Expert after expert said that you can’t open without constant surveillance rapid testing for all — symptomatic or not. At least 2x a week.

The NBA has figured it out.

All of this is proof we have raised a generation of selfish partiers who care nothing for others if it means delaying any gratification for themselves.

I do have a child at Notre Dame. If the school screwed up it is because they thought 18+ year olds could follow basic rules of disease prevention. They could not. Who do we fault...the students....yes, they held, and attended off campus parties, without following safe practices, and let down their guard on campus as well....the school, yes,.. they should have anticipated this. Lax protocols are the result when many people are inherently selfish, but do remember, this is an institution based on faith and discipline..and now, after a come to Jesus moment, strict adherence to these principles on campus may now turn things around. Let us watch and see.

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Anonymous wrote:2 weeks probably buys them time to get past a refund date.

If there are sinister/financial motives it would be far more likely to buy time for football. Let the ACC take the fall for cancelling the season rather than having to look horrible for sending everyone home except the football players.

+1. Good point.

Anonymous wrote:Michigan State just announced online as well

State kids rarely attend class anyways.

Y’all. No football without students on campus per the NCAA. It’s why UNC and ND aren’t just sending kids home. It’s why UVA hasn’t given up before they started.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-president-mark-emmert-no-sports-without-students-on-campus-162457332.html

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Anonymous wrote:2 weeks probably buys them time to get past a refund date.

If there are sinister/financial motives it would be far more likely to buy time for football. Let the ACC take the fall for cancelling the season rather than having to look horrible for sending everyone home except the football players.

Didn’t the NCAA say colleges that didn’t allow all students onto campus couldn’t play? If ND went home, they couldn’t play. But them plus UNC (plus UVA waiting) and NC State parties means the ACC won’t have much choice. Trumpneck backlash bigly.

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Anonymous wrote:2 weeks probably buys them time to get past a refund date.

If there are sinister/financial motives it would be far more likely to buy time for football. Let the ACC take the fall for cancelling the season rather than having to look horrible for sending everyone home except the football players.

Why would that be a problem? The players who want to play can be better isolated and managed with daily testing. They’ve trained so long and would bring in needed revenue in an insane year. They would still need to take remote classes like other students. Not sure why it’s sinister if the school put forth a good effort and tried to have all students on campus.

Michigan State just announced online as well

Nearly every school in the country will be on line by mid September. Including elementary, middle and high schools. Because they should have been online to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:Online classes for two weeks. Off campus kids not allowed on campus and vice versa.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-enacts-two-weeks-of-remote-instruction/

I don't appreciate how they are clearly trying to blame the kids for what was inevitable.

They are not blaming them, just reporting the truth about the origination of the outbreaks. They have been extremely transparent from the start.

Personally, I put the blame on the Chinese Govt for completely f’ing up the whole world.

That's a copout. We've had 8 months to get a handle on this, but our so-called leader and way to many reality-denying Americans refused. China dealt with it. This is what was going on in Wuhan today:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/life-after-coronavirus-thousands-flock-wuhan-pool-party-n1237100

Peter Hessler, who won a MacAuthor Genius Award for reporting, has written a good piece about how China dealt with coronavirus

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/08/17/how-china-controlled-the-coronavirus

OMG, focus people.
Think of the Irish!

OMG. Take the China discussion elsewhere.