Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very sad, way too young. I wonder if hormones from IVF brought on the cancer.
Did they confirm they used ivf?
Apparently she had the last child at age 48.
That doesn’t automatically mean she used ivf.
Yes it does. Did Scientology keep her from getting the best treatment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Re: medical treatment -- I think you all are confusing Scientology with Christian Science. Scientology is bad bad bad, but Christian Science is the one the eschews vaccination and modern medicine.
+100
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is very easy to forget about the link between alcohol and cancer. Despite the strong data, I always tend to think first about genetic risks or smoking, or poor lifestyle choices (eating a ton of red meat, etc). But it is well documented.
I don't know anything about Kelly Preston and find it so sad she died so young. I was diagnosed with stage 1 lobular cancer at age 45. I was a big partier in college and a heavy drinker after, but no drugs, and I think the drinking caused my cancer. No BRCA or other history.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very sad, way too young. I wonder if hormones from IVF brought on the cancer.
Did they confirm they used ivf?
Apparently she had the last child at age 48.
That doesn’t automatically mean she used ivf.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:John Travolta is well known to be gay and Kelly was his beard so I wonder if he’ll come out of the closet now.
My first thought after being bummed she passed.
Well, I suppose you two can split the award for Least Amount of Empathy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:John Travolta is well known to be gay and Kelly was his beard so I wonder if he’ll come out of the closet now.
My first thought after being bummed she passed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she drank a ton of arsenic laced white wine, that might have done it. Fairly confident that’s what caused my mother’s breast cancer.
PS - BC can kill you. Lots of women undergo treatment, are in remission, then it comes back at stage 4 and kills you. Even with the best treatment, a two year battle followed by death is fairly typical.
It is NOT typical. Stop scaremongering, and look at the actual survival rates of the various stages of BC. If you have stage I and it's treated, it doesn't magically "come back" and kill you.
Jesus, the ignorance on this thread.
new pp but yes, it can come back. my mother had it three separate times with 6 years between 1st and 2nd instance and then 3 years between 2nd and 3rd. she never drank and she never smoked and she definitely never took a drug or had IVF. Now she is dying of cancer elsewhere in her body after about 15 years of the "all clear" after her 3rd BC. She may be an unusual case but not completely unheard of.
So sadly, you don't know what you are talking about (to quote a greatly over used DCUM phrase).
+ 1
My mother was diagnosed at barely stage 2, got excellent treatment and was given the all clear. Then 3 years later, she was diagnosed stage 4 and died within 2 years.
I know several women with similar stories.
There is no cure for cancer. There is a reason the word is “remission” and not “cure”.
These are all tragedies, and I am no doctor, but to go from diagnosis to death in two years suggests she may have been in the smaller percentage of women who when diagnosed are in stage 4. It is possible. Or maybe she had triple negative breast cancer, the hardest and most aggressive type to treat. Even the two tragic examples above point to 15 years and about 5 years of living after diagnosis. This was two years. I agree she was an outlier. Yes, cancer can behave unpredictably but i think many more women are surviving breast cancer, but yes for some it can return and go to stage IV. For others, it is indeed cured ie. Surgically removed and contained.
No you're not a doctor and what you also fail to realize is that cancer takes DECADES to grow. DECADES.
Decades? How is it that children get diagnosed with cancer then?
Anonymous wrote:John Travolta is well known to be gay and Kelly was his beard so I wonder if he’ll come out of the closet now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she drank a ton of arsenic laced white wine, that might have done it. Fairly confident that’s what caused my mother’s breast cancer.
PS - BC can kill you. Lots of women undergo treatment, are in remission, then it comes back at stage 4 and kills you. Even with the best treatment, a two year battle followed by death is fairly typical.
It is NOT typical. Stop scaremongering, and look at the actual survival rates of the various stages of BC. If you have stage I and it's treated, it doesn't magically "come back" and kill you.
Jesus, the ignorance on this thread.
new pp but yes, it can come back. my mother had it three separate times with 6 years between 1st and 2nd instance and then 3 years between 2nd and 3rd. she never drank and she never smoked and she definitely never took a drug or had IVF. Now she is dying of cancer elsewhere in her body after about 15 years of the "all clear" after her 3rd BC. She may be an unusual case but not completely unheard of.
So sadly, you don't know what you are talking about (to quote a greatly over used DCUM phrase).
+ 1
My mother was diagnosed at barely stage 2, got excellent treatment and was given the all clear. Then 3 years later, she was diagnosed stage 4 and died within 2 years.
I know several women with similar stories.
There is no cure for cancer. There is a reason the word is “remission” and not “cure”.
These are all tragedies, and I am no doctor, but to go from diagnosis to death in two years suggests she may have been in the smaller percentage of women who when diagnosed are in stage 4. It is possible. Or maybe she had triple negative breast cancer, the hardest and most aggressive type to treat. Even the two tragic examples above point to 15 years and about 5 years of living after diagnosis. This was two years. I agree she was an outlier. Yes, cancer can behave unpredictably but i think many more women are surviving breast cancer, but yes for some it can return and go to stage IV. For others, it is indeed cured ie. Surgically removed and contained.
No you're not a doctor and what you also fail to realize is that cancer takes DECADES to grow. DECADES.
Anonymous wrote:Re: medical treatment -- I think you all are confusing Scientology with Christian Science. Scientology is bad bad bad, but Christian Science is the one the eschews vaccination and modern medicine.
Anonymous wrote:It is very easy to forget about the link between alcohol and cancer. Despite the strong data, I always tend to think first about genetic risks or smoking, or poor lifestyle choices (eating a ton of red meat, etc). But it is well documented.