Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 15:47     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a middle school teacher I want to be back in the classroom.
I don’t hate online teaching but I find it extremely frustrating.
I am not worried about getting sick. But I am worried about someone in my family sick (immunocompromised, asthma, frequent bronchitis). I feel like I might need to separate myself from my family if I go back to work just to protect them.

I’m not doing that. I live with my family. I’m going to do what? Rent a room for $1,000 a month and live like a leper so I can continue serving the community? That’s ridiculous. I have a life and my life includes my home and my family. You can make that choice if you want to but that’s crazy. I didn’t become a soldier or an emergency room doctor, and I don’t get hazard pay/benefits to pretend I did now.


No one is saying you do. When schools open you will have a choice - go back to teach h or find a new job. I imagine as a former teacher, you would be able to make a living tutoring via zoom., or you could find a job in central office that doesn’t involve interacting with kids. -DP


You clearly don’t understand how MCPS works. This isn’t a reality for school based staff.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 15:35     Subject: Re:The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry folks, I love it this way. Some effort but a full paycheck. Knowing MCPS I'm 100% sure they won't open for a long time.


You're a teacher apparently? I have two friends who teach elementary and they've both said they enjoy working from home. Now that they figured out how to use Zoom, they're settled in and don't want to go back.


If I were a teacher I would be embarrassed to admit to this, even anonymously online. My son is in elementary school. His work is so minimal. His math homework is usually one question. ONE QUESTION to turn in. He has learned zero in the last 2 months from his distance learning. Im doing my best to teach him what I can.

I have already started using outside programs which are set up in a better format for learning than our schools.

This has been a complete waste of 2 months and the fact that you love "teaching" without such a large percentage of students actually learning is scary. It doesn't matter what MCPS numbers say, even if 70% of students are logging on doesn't mean they're actually learning something.

MCPS distance learning is like taking an open book test-- and we all know how well people learn from those.




Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 15:35     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:Vaccine is not the answer. There’s plenty of evidence that those who have tested positive once are testing positive again after recuperating. How’s the vaccine, containing only traces of the virus going to help? Unless coronavirus does not follow the rules of immunology, herd immunity is the way to go — or maybe there a new world order in the making.

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Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 15:02     Subject: Re:The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

I don’t know what the point of arguing about this on here is. The decision to reopen will not be made based on the public’s desires but on the facts as determined by health authorities. We’re all very used to decisions being democratic, but this one will not be. Because the public just doesn’t have the expertise.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 14:49     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School is already open in other countries. I think 100 days from now it will.

Think about it either we keep apart and it dies off or we have a cluster like NYC and heard immunity kicks in.


school will open. Once everything else is open it will be insane to not open schools. They may have to shut down again here or there but overall they will open. We are talking about three months from now.


You can go to Ocean City this weekend and stroll on the packed boardwalk and wait in line for fries without a mask but your kids can’t go to daycare. I guarantee racetracks and casinos will open months before schools. People will question this stuff.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 14:34     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Vaccine is not the answer. There’s plenty of evidence that those who have tested positive once are testing positive again after recuperating. How’s the vaccine, containing only traces of the virus going to help? Unless coronavirus does not follow the rules of immunology, herd immunity is the way to go — or maybe there a new world order in the making.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 14:13     Subject: Re:The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you are insane. With the current mortality being about .3%, it does not make sense to shut down until fall 2021. This is madness,, you people have no sense of proportion and the risk that exists every single day you walk out the door and could be killed in hundreds of ways. The seasonal flu last year killed hundreds more children than this virus has.


It might not make sense to shutdown but I think that that is what is going to happen.


Doesn’t .3% means one or two people per high school?


Given that the IFR is not .3%, ignore this person. The CFR is very high. Best estimates of the IFR is .7-1%
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 14:08     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School is already open in other countries. I think 100 days from now it will.

Think about it either we keep apart and it dies off or we have a cluster like NYC and heard immunity kicks in.


school will open. Once everything else is open it will be insane to not open schools. They may have to shut down again here or there but overall they will open. We are talking about three months from now.


Yes, but none of the proposed solutions in the MD suggest school will resume normally - so likely kids will not go in person every day.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 14:07     Subject: Re:The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you are insane. With the current mortality being about .3%, it does not make sense to shut down until fall 2021. This is madness,, you people have no sense of proportion and the risk that exists every single day you walk out the door and could be killed in hundreds of ways. The seasonal flu last year killed hundreds more children than this virus has.


It might not make sense to shutdown but I think that that is what is going to happen.


Doesn’t .3% means one or two people per high school?


No, because that's not really how it works.


Nope, it doesn't. The mortality rate among children and young adults is very low. The risk is not to the kids, but to the adults (including elderly ones) who are at higher risk of catching it from a kid who is just a carrier and exhibits no symptoms.

Again, this is why the focus should now be on protecting the most vulnerable. The level of protection, ranging from social distancing & substantial hand washing... to total quarantine depends on the people being protected.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 13:51     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a middle school teacher I want to be back in the classroom.
I don’t hate online teaching but I find it extremely frustrating.
I am not worried about getting sick. But I am worried about someone in my family sick (immunocompromised, asthma, frequent bronchitis). I feel like I might need to separate myself from my family if I go back to work just to protect them.

I’m not doing that. I live with my family. I’m going to do what? Rent a room for $1,000 a month and live like a leper so I can continue serving the community? That’s ridiculous. I have a life and my life includes my home and my family. You can make that choice if you want to but that’s crazy. I didn’t become a soldier or an emergency room doctor, and I don’t get hazard pay/benefits to pretend I did now.


No one is saying you do. When schools open you will have a choice - go back to teach h or find a new job. I imagine as a former teacher, you would be able to make a living tutoring via zoom., or you could find a job in central office that doesn’t involve interacting with kids. -DP
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 13:17     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:School is already open in other countries. I think 100 days from now it will.

Think about it either we keep apart and it dies off or we have a cluster like NYC and heard immunity kicks in.


school will open. Once everything else is open it will be insane to not open schools. They may have to shut down again here or there but overall they will open. We are talking about three months from now.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 13:13     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

School is already open in other countries. I think 100 days from now it will.

Think about it either we keep apart and it dies off or we have a cluster like NYC and heard immunity kicks in.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 11:45     Subject: Re:The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you are insane. With the current mortality being about .3%, it does not make sense to shut down until fall 2021. This is madness,, you people have no sense of proportion and the risk that exists every single day you walk out the door and could be killed in hundreds of ways. The seasonal flu last year killed hundreds more children than this virus has.


It might not make sense to shutdown but I think that that is what is going to happen.


Doesn’t .3% means one or two people per high school?


No, because that's not really how it works.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 11:43     Subject: Re:The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you are insane. With the current mortality being about .3%, it does not make sense to shut down until fall 2021. This is madness,, you people have no sense of proportion and the risk that exists every single day you walk out the door and could be killed in hundreds of ways. The seasonal flu last year killed hundreds more children than this virus has.


It might not make sense to shutdown but I think that that is what is going to happen.


Doesn’t .3% means one or two people per high school?
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2020 11:39     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021

Anonymous wrote:For comparison, 100 grocery store workers have died of COVID-19 so far. You could argue that more poverty and health problems are part of this, but that is a pretty good comparison than could happen to teachers.

I don't think it is, actually.