Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want a bunch of dum dum’s running around, not practicing good hygiene, not social distancing, not wearing masks, because Trump told them there is a cure...

There is a trial right now testing Hydroxychloroquine in early stages. I really hope that we learn it works. It would be wonderful to get your easily accessible and rapid result Covid 19 test, and you are handed a simple drug or two and that’s that.
But what Trump is pushing is potentially false hope and at worst encouraging dangerous behavior.

It’s not false hope. It works for most patients. The mechanism for how it works is even understood. This isn’t witchcraft, ok? This is science.

How do you know it works? Where was the controlled study?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want a bunch of dum dum’s running around, not practicing good hygiene, not social distancing, not wearing masks, because Trump told them there is a cure...

There is a trial right now testing Hydroxychloroquine in early stages. I really hope that we learn it works. It would be wonderful to get your easily accessible and rapid result Covid 19 test, and you are handed a simple drug or two and that’s that.
But what Trump is pushing is potentially false hope and at worst encouraging dangerous behavior.

It’s not false hope. It works for most patients. The mechanism for how it works is even understood. This isn’t witchcraft, ok? This is science.

You’re making things up.

Nope.

Lol, talk about “false hope” it’s like some posters don’t WANT this to work smh.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want a bunch of dum dum’s running around, not practicing good hygiene, not social distancing, not wearing masks, because Trump told them there is a cure...

There is a trial right now testing Hydroxychloroquine in early stages. I really hope that we learn it works. It would be wonderful to get your easily accessible and rapid result Covid 19 test, and you are handed a simple drug or two and that’s that.
But what Trump is pushing is potentially false hope and at worst encouraging dangerous behavior.

It’s not false hope. It works for most patients. The mechanism for how it works is even understood. This isn’t witchcraft, ok? This is science.

You’re making things up.

Nope.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll ask why some are so hell-bent on saying that it doesn’t work and why governors are stepping in and not allowing doctors to prescribe it to their patients. Why would a politician interfere between a sick individual and their doctor?

Restricting it to in-patient care isn’t banning it...

But it is banning to from what is thought to be its best use at the initiation of symptoms.

Thought by whom?

Mmmmmmm, anyone who understands basic immunology?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want a bunch of dum dum’s running around, not practicing good hygiene, not social distancing, not wearing masks, because Trump told them there is a cure...

There is a trial right now testing Hydroxychloroquine in early stages. I really hope that we learn it works. It would be wonderful to get your easily accessible and rapid result Covid 19 test, and you are handed a simple drug or two and that’s that.
But what Trump is pushing is potentially false hope and at worst encouraging dangerous behavior.

It’s not false hope. It works for most patients. The mechanism for how it works is even understood. This isn’t witchcraft, ok? This is science.

You’re making things up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I applaud the efforts to test cheap generic drugs with long histories of usage and safety for effectiveness against Covid-19. These include hydroxycholoriquine, colchicine, and BCG vaccinations, all of which cost pennies to produce.

This disease is reaching many emerging market countries for which promising drugs like remdesivir are simply out of reach from a cost perspective.

For this reason alone, I cannot understand why people are so eager to pour cold water on efforts to investigate these older generic drugs. Remdesivir and plasma treatments are great but they are luxuries reserved for rich countries.

Because Trump said something favorable about it.

It’s really just that simple, unfortunately. He says “yes”, they immediately say “no”. He says hot, they say cold. He says low, they say high.

Total binary unthinking.

Nobody threw cold water on research!!! it’s the opposite - we’re saying we won’t know until the research is completed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll ask why some are so hell-bent on saying that it doesn’t work and why governors are stepping in and not allowing doctors to prescribe it to their patients. Why would a politician interfere between a sick individual and their doctor?

Restricting it to in-patient care isn’t banning it...

But it is banning to from what is thought to be its best use at the initiation of symptoms.

Thought by whom?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want a bunch of dum dum’s running around, not practicing good hygiene, not social distancing, not wearing masks, because Trump told them there is a cure...

There is a trial right now testing Hydroxychloroquine in early stages. I really hope that we learn it works. It would be wonderful to get your easily accessible and rapid result Covid 19 test, and you are handed a simple drug or two and that’s that.
But what Trump is pushing is potentially false hope and at worst encouraging dangerous behavior.

It’s not false hope. It works for most patients. The mechanism for how it works is even understood. This isn’t witchcraft, ok? This is science.

I don’t want a bunch of dum dum’s running around, not practicing good hygiene, not social distancing, not wearing masks, because Trump told them there is a cure...

There is a trial right now testing Hydroxychloroquine in early stages. I really hope that we learn it works. It would be wonderful to get your easily accessible and rapid result Covid 19 test, and you are handed a simple drug or two and that’s that.
But what Trump is pushing is potentially false hope and at worst encouraging dangerous behavior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll ask why some are so hell-bent on saying that it doesn’t work and why governors are stepping in and not allowing doctors to prescribe it to their patients. Why would a politician interfere between a sick individual and their doctor?

Restricting it to in-patient care isn’t banning it...

But it is banning to from what is thought to be its best use at the initiation of symptoms.

Exactly. That’s the real tragedy here. You have to be allowed to become so sick that you’re admitted before it can be administered. Had it been available at the outset of symptoms, before viral load and immune response complications had reached critical levels, most patients would have a far less difficult time.

However, one unfortunate reality is that there IS a limited supply, at least as of 10 days ago, within the US at least, since the two approved uses (malaria and lupus) are both relatively uncommon here. Thec supply was small to begin with, and this strained it even further. But physicians should make the determination of when a patient should receive it, not elected officials.

It’s a relatively easy compound to create in a modern pharmaceutical lab/factory, but it still takes a while to get the precursor components on hand, QA testing in place, and start producing medication. There’s going to be a lag until a manufacturer catches up.

It’s a generic medication, and I’m sure dozens of labs are in various stages of beginning production right now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I applaud the efforts to test cheap generic drugs with long histories of usage and safety for effectiveness against Covid-19. These include hydroxycholoriquine, colchicine, and BCG vaccinations, all of which cost pennies to produce.

This disease is reaching many emerging market countries for which promising drugs like remdesivir are simply out of reach from a cost perspective.

For this reason alone, I cannot understand why people are so eager to pour cold water on efforts to investigate these older generic drugs. Remdesivir and plasma treatments are great but they are luxuries reserved for rich countries.

Because Trump said something favorable about it.

It’s really just that simple, unfortunately. He says “yes”, they immediately say “no”. He says hot, they say cold. He says low, they say high.

Total binary unthinking.

That simple and very sad. Letting their hate blind them.

Anonymous wrote:I applaud the efforts to test cheap generic drugs with long histories of usage and safety for effectiveness against Covid-19. These include hydroxycholoriquine, colchicine, and BCG vaccinations, all of which cost pennies to produce.

This disease is reaching many emerging market countries for which promising drugs like remdesivir are simply out of reach from a cost perspective.

For this reason alone, I cannot understand why people are so eager to pour cold water on efforts to investigate these older generic drugs. Remdesivir and plasma treatments are great but they are luxuries reserved for rich countries.

Because Trump said something favorable about it.

It’s really just that simple, unfortunately. He says “yes”, they immediately say “no”. He says hot, they say cold. He says low, they say high.

Total binary unthinking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll ask why some are so hell-bent on saying that it doesn’t work and why governors are stepping in and not allowing doctors to prescribe it to their patients. Why would a politician interfere between a sick individual and their doctor?

Restricting it to in-patient care isn’t banning it...

But it is banning to from what is thought to be its best use at the initiation of symptoms.

I applaud the efforts to test cheap generic drugs with long histories of usage and safety for effectiveness against Covid-19. These include hydroxycholoriquine, colchicine, and BCG vaccinations, all of which cost pennies to produce.

This disease is reaching many emerging market countries for which promising drugs like remdesivir are simply out of reach from a cost perspective.

For this reason alone, I cannot understand why people are so eager to pour cold water on efforts to investigate these older generic drugs. Remdesivir and plasma treatments are great but they are luxuries reserved for rich countries.

Anonymous wrote:I’ll ask why some are so hell-bent on saying that it doesn’t work and why governors are stepping in and not allowing doctors to prescribe it to their patients. Why would a politician interfere between a sick individual and their doctor?

Restricting it to in-patient care isn’t banning it...