Anonymous
02/11/2020 12:42
Subject: Re:Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.
The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.
You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?
Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.
I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.
OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".
If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100
Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.
Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".
DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.
OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).
Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?
McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...
Re-read your own post, dude.
Yes, and?
"Many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington." <> "Most of Arlington is walkable"
Except the website you provided for that 69 walk score is for both N and S Arlington... not just N Arlington.
Are you having trouble keeping up with your own information? First you claim that many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington, but that 69 number includes S Arlington stats...
If you’re gonna to provide stats, try to make sure you understand what you’re saying...
What exactly is incorrect about "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington"?
16 of the top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA.
https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington
I'd say that counts as "many".
If the WalkScore website listed NA separately I'd be happy to give a more precise number.
The metro line (Ballston-Rosslyn) is walkable. Your own stats show that. That area isn’t “most” of N Arlington.
The rest of N Arlington is the straight up burbs. Wavered, Cherrydale, Yorktown, Bellevue, etc is all not very walkable.
I used to live in N Arlington, and there’s no way that I’d ever lie and say that “many of N arl is walkable”. It’s not.
There’s nothing wrong with that. And it’s not a big deal but for whatever reason, you’re going out your way to give me and others the impression that it is when it’s not.
Here is exactly what I said: "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington". It was in response to someone who mistakenly thought the Metro stations were all in South Arlington.
I'm not sure why you continue to misread that after I've explained and repeated it a few times.
If you'd like to share any facts to prove otherwise, feel free. But what I wrote is true AND I provided factual backup - 16 of top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA. Oops - that should be 15.5 (one splits across Rt 50).
If you're too lazy to click on the link:
Nothing is misread. I already said what you’re showing me. The metro line from Ballston to Rosslyn is walkable. The rest isn’t.
This isn’t hard.
Also, you were trying to sneakily use all of Arlington stats (that 69 number) to go in your favor when you were clearly only talking about N Arlington.
So again, no one misread anything. I just called you out on your shit and now you’re still scrambling to defend yourself.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 12:35
Subject: Re:Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.
The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.
You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?
Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.
I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.
OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".
If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100
Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.
Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".
DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.
OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).
Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?
McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...
Re-read your own post, dude.
Yes, and?
"Many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington." <> "Most of Arlington is walkable"
Except the website you provided for that 69 walk score is for both N and S Arlington... not just N Arlington.
Are you having trouble keeping up with your own information? First you claim that many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington, but that 69 number includes S Arlington stats...
If you’re gonna to provide stats, try to make sure you understand what you’re saying...
What exactly is incorrect about "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington"?
16 of the top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA.
https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington
I'd say that counts as "many".
If the WalkScore website listed NA separately I'd be happy to give a more precise number.
The metro line (Ballston-Rosslyn) is walkable. Your own stats show that. That area isn’t “most” of N Arlington.
The rest of N Arlington is the straight up burbs. Wavered, Cherrydale, Yorktown, Bellevue, etc is all not very walkable.
I used to live in N Arlington, and there’s no way that I’d ever lie and say that “many of N arl is walkable”. It’s not.
There’s nothing wrong with that. And it’s not a big deal but for whatever reason, you’re going out your way to give me and others the impression that it is when it’s not.
Here is exactly what I said: "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington". It was in response to someone who mistakenly thought the Metro stations were all in South Arlington.
I'm not sure why you continue to misread that after I've explained and repeated it a few times.
If you'd like to share any facts to prove otherwise, feel free. But what I wrote is true AND I provided factual backup - 16 of top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA. Oops - that should be 15.5 (one splits across Rt 50).
If you're too lazy to click on the link:
Nothing is misread. I already said what you’re showing me. The metro line from Ballston to Rosslyn is walkable. The rest isn’t.
This isn’t hard.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 12:31
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
I’ve never seen so many N Arlingtonians so butthurt in one thread.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 12:31
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Hahaha I rest my case... (I made the original post in this quote chain)
Sorry, you hate facts.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 12:29
Subject: Re:Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.
The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.
You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?
Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.
I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.
OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".
If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100
Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.
Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".
DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.
OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).
Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?
McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...
Re-read your own post, dude.
Yes, and?
"Many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington." <> "Most of Arlington is walkable"
Except the website you provided for that 69 walk score is for both N and S Arlington... not just N Arlington.
Are you having trouble keeping up with your own information? First you claim that many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington, but that 69 number includes S Arlington stats...
If you’re gonna to provide stats, try to make sure you understand what you’re saying...
What exactly is incorrect about "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington"?
16 of the top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA.
https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington
I'd say that counts as "many".
If the WalkScore website listed NA separately I'd be happy to give a more precise number.
The metro line (Ballston-Rosslyn) is walkable. Your own stats show that. That area isn’t “most” of N Arlington.
The rest of N Arlington is the straight up burbs. Wavered, Cherrydale, Yorktown, Bellevue, etc is all not very walkable.
I used to live in N Arlington, and there’s no way that I’d ever lie and say that “many of N arl is walkable”. It’s not.
There’s nothing wrong with that. And it’s not a big deal but for whatever reason, you’re going out your way to give me and others the impression that it is when it’s not.
Here is exactly what I said: "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington". It was in response to someone who mistakenly thought the Metro stations were all in South Arlington.
I'm not sure why you continue to misread that after I've explained and repeated it a few times.
If you'd like to share any facts to prove otherwise, feel free. But what I wrote is true AND I provided factual backup - 16 of top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA. Oops - that should be 15.5 (one splits across Rt 50).
If you're too lazy to click on the link:
Anonymous
02/11/2020 12:19
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
The fact is that even North Arlington is more diverse than McLean.
Almost everything I've shared is based on North Arlington. Sorry that the one walkscore number I shared for Arlington was for all of Arlington (which I noted in my post).
Again, sorry that facts bother you.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:52
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Hahaha I rest my case... (I made the original post in this quote chain)
Ok. I'm not from Arlington. Just pointing out that it's incorrect. The historic usage comes from a joke map and is often referenced in the City Paper. There are people who care about facts who don't live in Arlington, you know.
Could there be more than one map? City Paper peaked decades ago and has largely faded into obscurity.
Upper NW is the Upper Caucasia of DC, and North Arlington is the Upper Caucasia of NoVa.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:51
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Hahaha I rest my case... (I made the original post in this quote chain)
Ok. I'm not from Arlington. Just pointing out that it's incorrect. The historic usage comes from a joke map and is often referenced in the City Paper. There are people who care about facts who don't live in Arlington, you know.
Sure, dear, sure...
Whatever.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:50
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Hahaha I rest my case... (I made the original post in this quote chain)
Ok. I'm not from Arlington. Just pointing out that it's incorrect. The historic usage comes from a joke map and is often referenced in the City Paper. There are people who care about facts who don't live in Arlington, you know.
Sure, dear, sure...
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:45
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Hahaha I rest my case... (I made the original post in this quote chain)
Ok. I'm not from Arlington. Just pointing out that it's incorrect. The historic usage comes from a joke map and is often referenced in the City Paper. There are people who care about facts who don't live in Arlington, you know.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:43
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Hahaha I rest my case... (I made the original post in this quote chain)
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:42
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So...let's recap.
Arlington: smaller houses, lots, better commute, better walking possibilities
McLean: bigger houses, lots, better schools, worse commute
I'll leave out the bigger question of diversity.
Many of the posts in this thread address diversity. McLean is the better option. N Arlington posters are in denial of their own bias.
Hm. I think it's still in the toss-up pile. Self-proclaimed POCs here prefer McLean. McLean is also more white based on straight demographics.
That comes back to the North/South issue.
McLean is whiter and less diverse than Arlington as a whole, but the whitest parts of NoVa are in North Arlington (the areas that feed into Discovery, Jamestown, McKinley, Nottingham, Taylor and Tuckahoe ES, and Williamsburg MS).
While some might claim the North/South divide is artificial, it was people in Arlington, not McLean, who popularized that distinction, so it must mean something to them. Route 50 existed long before the residents of the area made “North Arlington” a thing, so it’s clearly intended to get at something besides geography.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:39
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
DP. I’ve heard it said in reference to, say, 22207.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:38
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Mclean hands down if you care about schools. Arlington has a near impossible problem to solve with regards to its school situation.
Not really. The privileged white upper north is safe and sound.
Anonymous
02/11/2020 11:37
Subject: Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.
The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.
I must say, it’s very telling.
I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".
Sorry if facts bother you.
When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.
"Upper Caucasia" is upper NW.