I feel like this thread needs a Democracy 101 lesson.

We do not have direct democracy, in which each person would weigh in on each decision. That's a terrible, unworkable, system.

Instaead, we have representative democracy, which means we elect representatives to make decisions. In this case, the representatives are BoE Members, who are fully within their legal and professional rights to choose one of the several options that were presented for school assignment patterns.

If you think a BoE Member lied about their intentions, back a different candidate next time.

But a lawsuit against an elected official for choosing one of several options that were presented to the public? That's going nowhere fast.

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Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

Anybody can file a lawsuit over anything.

They'd better have deep pockets, though.

I bet they do. According to one survey I read, 80% of parents in that area were not in favor of the redistricting option the BOE chose (there were a few options). That's a lot of pissed-off parents.

"I prefer this option" =/= "I'm happy to pay a lawyer a lot of money to sue".

If they have that much money, why not just go private or pay for extra tutoring. Same crappy MCPS curriculum no matter which school. Seems like there would be several better uses for that money rather than suing to keep some FARMS kids out of your school. Shrug.

You assume it's about FARMS and not busing. In one news article about Clarksburg redistricting, a mother said her child will now be bused directly past his old high school to get to the newly-assigned high school. It's understandable parents may not be in favor of that, just because of busing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

What a ridiculous waste of time and money. MCPS has every right to reassign students to different schools.

Here's what you don't get - and I say this as a teacher: We ARE MCPS. We pay taxes to fund salaries (mine included). So we better damn well have a say.

Isn’t that what we elect BOE members to do? You really want the “public” to have a direct say in every decision MCPS makes?

Maybe we could vote on the next teacher union contract. Bet the teacher poster would love that!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

Anybody can file a lawsuit over anything.

They'd better have deep pockets, though.

I bet they do. According to one survey I read, 80% of parents in that area were not in favor of the redistricting option the BOE chose (there were a few options). That's a lot of pissed-off parents.

"I prefer this option" =/= "I'm happy to pay a lawyer a lot of money to sue".

If they have that much money, why not just go private or pay for extra tutoring. Same crappy MCPS curriculum no matter which school. Seems like there would be several better uses for that money rather than suing to keep some FARMS kids out of your school. Shrug.

Anonymous wrote:Rather that busing we should take the Chevy Chase Country Club and Georgetown Prep campus by eminent domain and sell it to developers to build mixed use communities with new high schools at each site, with a stipulation that 30% of the housing be affordable housing and be available to Section 8. Rather than pit upper middle class people against lower middle class and working class people, let’s put the burden on the 1%. Let’s see how much the “progressives” on the council go for that idea.

True fact: when the government takes property by eminent domain, the government has to pay the owner the fair market value of the property. What's the fair market value of those properties, and where should MCPS get the money?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

Anybody can file a lawsuit over anything.

They'd better have deep pockets, though.

I bet they do. According to one survey I read, 80% of parents in that area were not in favor of the redistricting option the BOE chose (there were a few options). That's a lot of pissed-off parents.

"I prefer this option" =/= "I'm happy to pay a lawyer a lot of money to sue".

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Anonymous wrote:Rather that busing we should take the Chevy Chase Country Club and Georgetown Prep campus by eminent domain and sell it to developers to build mixed use communities with new high schools at each site, with a stipulation that 30% of the housing be affordable housing and be available to Section 8. Rather than pit upper middle class people against lower middle class and working class people, let’s put the burden on the 1%. Let’s see how much the “progressives” on the council go for that idea.

It's already 12.5-15% of all new housing in new developments in MoCo must be low-income housing. You can see a bunch of just a few hundred yards from CC country club, down Bradley near the fire station.

And the funny part is how so many people don't understand that requiring below market housing forces up the cost of the other units (so even fewer people can afford the new units) and on and on it goes. Economics is a thing.

Economics is a complicated thing. The MPDU requirement does not necessarily increase the cost of other housing. Sometimes developers even proffer a greater % of MPDUs than required.

Plus the market alone cannot supply decent housing for people with low incomes, because the cost of building and maintaining that housing is more than they can afford -

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

What a ridiculous waste of time and money. MCPS has every right to reassign students to different schools.

Here's what you don't get - and I say this as a teacher: We ARE MCPS. We pay taxes to fund salaries (mine included). So we better damn well have a say.

Isn’t that what we elect BOE members to do? You really want the “public” to have a direct say in every decision MCPS makes?

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Anonymous wrote:Rather that busing we should take the Chevy Chase Country Club and Georgetown Prep campus by eminent domain and sell it to developers to build mixed use communities with new high schools at each site, with a stipulation that 30% of the housing be affordable housing and be available to Section 8. Rather than pit upper middle class people against lower middle class and working class people, let’s put the burden on the 1%. Let’s see how much the “progressives” on the council go for that idea.

It's already 12.5-15% of all new housing in new developments in MoCo must be low-income housing. You can see a bunch of just a few hundred yards from CC country club, down Bradley near the fire station.

And the funny part is how so many people don't understand that requiring below market housing forces up the cost of the other units (so even fewer people can afford the new units) and on and on it goes. Economics is a thing.

Anonymous wrote:Rather that busing we should take the Chevy Chase Country Club and Georgetown Prep campus by eminent domain and sell it to developers to build mixed use communities with new high schools at each site, with a stipulation that 30% of the housing be affordable housing and be available to Section 8. Rather than pit upper middle class people against lower middle class and working class people, let’s put the burden on the 1%. Let’s see how much the “progressives” on the council go for that idea.

It's already 12.5-15% of all new housing in new developments in MoCo must be low-income housing. You can see a bunch of just a few hundred yards from CC country club, down Bradley near the fire station.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

Anybody can file a lawsuit over anything.

They'd better have deep pockets, though.

I bet they do. According to one survey I read, 80% of parents in that area were not in favor of the redistricting option the BOE chose (there were a few options). That's a lot of pissed-off parents.

Rather that busing we should take the Chevy Chase Country Club and Georgetown Prep campus by eminent domain and sell it to developers to build mixed use communities with new high schools at each site, with a stipulation that 30% of the housing be affordable housing and be available to Section 8. Rather than pit upper middle class people against lower middle class and working class people, let’s put the burden on the 1%. Let’s see how much the “progressives” on the council go for that idea.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

Anybody can file a lawsuit over anything.

They'd better have deep pockets, though.

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This. As you can see, even the teachers know this is a waste of time. Social engineering will not change the core problems in some children's lives.

All school boundaries are inherently social engineering. The current boundaries are social engineering. Maintaining the current boundaries would be social engineering. Changing the current boundaries will also be social engineering.

And not having school boundaries would also be social engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the meeting go?

Anyone?

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-preparing-for-legal-battle-over-countywide-boundary-analysis/

"On Monday afternoon, the Board of Education will meet in closed session to discuss “potential litigation related to the examination and analysis of school boundary data,” according to a notice posted on the school district website.

No lawsuits had been filed as of Saturday afternoon, but MCPS officials said they believe some community members will seek an injunction from a judge, which would legally prevent the boundary analysis to continue.

“We have gotten emails from people saying they’re going to file a lawsuit or injunction, so the board will meet to discuss potential arguments people would make and how we respond to that,” Derek Turner, an MCPS spokesman said on Saturday morning.

Turner did not say from whom the school district had received the emails and did not elaborate further.

Maryland’s open meetings law allows closed sessions to discuss pending or potential litigation to “prevent disclosure of the board’s legal position or strategy.”"

A lawsuit to prevent a board of education from paying a consultant for a study of school boundaries? Iamnotalawyer, but seriously?

What I've heard from a friend who's connected on the MoCo political "scene" is it's likely to be a lawsuit over the Clarksburg redistricting that took place a few weeks ago. Deadline to file an appeal to that decision is 12/26.

What a ridiculous waste of time and money. MCPS has every right to reassign students to different schools.

Here's what you don't get - and I say this as a teacher: We ARE MCPS. We pay taxes to fund salaries (mine included). So we better damn well have a say.

This. As you can see, even the teachers know this is a waste of time. Social engineering will not change the core problems in some children's lives.