Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 23:13     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Nothing really. Good diet, exercise, sleep, limiting sun exposure, water, limiting alcohol, genetics probably.....

All my friends that seem to have the most aged faces seem to drink the most alcohol.

I'm 37 but everyone constantly thinks I'm like 28 and I still get carded all the time at restaurants when ordering a wine or something.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 22:37     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never get Botox. It looks weird and obvious, plus injecting that crap in your face is flat out creepy.

I have no problem microblading though.



You might be thinking of fillers and not Botox.


No. I’m thinking of injecting Botox. Do you know what it is?

Botulinum toxin is used to reduce fine lines and wrinkles by paralyzing the underlying muscles.

That sounds pretty creepy to me. Fillers, especially if you’re relocating fat cells from other parts of your body to your face don’t seem as bad. (Still not something I would do.)


A friend used to do fillers, but switched to Botox. She heard through the grapevine that one rare side-effect of fillers was blindness, and that it had happened at a top clinic. Very low chance of course, but I would rather have my lines.


Fillers and Botox have very different effects and risks. I'm guessing this is eye related? They're not usually interchangeable in terms of effects, so I am sorry to say your friend sounds like s pretty uninformed consumer/patient.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 22:33     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:I have a fine upper lip. Is there any way to get a small amount of filler and not look ridiculous?


Of course. More people than you realize do this- a skilled plastic surgeon can definitely pump you up a bit without looking fake.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 22:19     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
I have a fine upper lip. Is there any way to get a small amount of filler and not look ridiculous?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2019 21:36     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never get Botox. It looks weird and obvious, plus injecting that crap in your face is flat out creepy.

I have no problem microblading though.



You might be thinking of fillers and not Botox.


No. I’m thinking of injecting Botox. Do you know what it is?

Botulinum toxin is used to reduce fine lines and wrinkles by paralyzing the underlying muscles.

That sounds pretty creepy to me. Fillers, especially if you’re relocating fat cells from other parts of your body to your face don’t seem as bad. (Still not something I would do.)


A friend used to do fillers, but switched to Botox. She heard through the grapevine that one rare side-effect of fillers was blindness, and that it had happened at a top clinic. Very low chance of course, but I would rather have my lines.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 18:13     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing you can do - after the obvious no smoking, Retin-A at night, sunscreen during the day - is Botox. Do small amounts of it and start early on. Do it twice per year. If you're starting to get the slightest hint of 11s or horizontal forehead lines, start getting Botox injected there. It will have a preventative effect. A lot of us started Botox too late. I wouldn't worry about fillers. I think 20s is way too young to start fillers. They can really make you look crazy over time. They're also more expensive and more medically risky.

You will get way more bang for your buck out of Botox, generic Retin-A and sunscreen than you will out of all the, say, Drunk Elephant or Skinceutical products you can find. You don't need that stuff.



Agree completely! Botox is quick and lasts a few months. There’s no serum or cream that will get you close to the results Botox will. And it’s only obvious when it’s been done badly! Obviously a good injector will give you natural results.

Agree too on sunscreen!

I use red light therapy too- I see a big difference but it’s a commitment- 5-6 days a week I use it for 15-20 min. A long time to do nothing but lay there with your eyes closed relaxing though.

Also, differin your skin doesn’t take to retina a stop a retenoid (?) but less drying.


I've read about this in some article. Can you recommend what you're using?


Yes please!
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 12:01     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and my skin is flawless. No lines, nothing. I do basic sunscreen moisturizer and Retinol cream at night.

But I’m middle eastern. The secret is genetics, and everyone looks older eventually. I don’t even think I look younger than my age, I just have good skin.

Now if only it were so easy for me to lose weight! Life would be perfect!


Why don’t you look younger? Isn’t good skin the key to looking younger?


NP, delusional people tend to think they look younger. In reality, enough people look great and have great skin that if that's you, you're just on the upper end of the scale, but you don't look 18.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 11:57     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and my skin is flawless. No lines, nothing. I do basic sunscreen moisturizer and Retinol cream at night.

But I’m middle eastern. The secret is genetics, and everyone looks older eventually. I don’t even think I look younger than my age, I just have good skin.

Now if only it were so easy for me to lose weight! Life would be perfect!


Why don’t you look younger? Isn’t good skin the key to looking younger?
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 10:45     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never get Botox. It looks weird and obvious, plus injecting that crap in your face is flat out creepy.

I have no problem microblading though.



You might be thinking of fillers and not Botox.


No. I’m thinking of injecting Botox. Do you know what it is?

Botulinum toxin is used to reduce fine lines and wrinkles by paralyzing the underlying muscles.

That sounds pretty creepy to me. Fillers, especially if you’re relocating fat cells from other parts of your body to your face don’t seem as bad. (Still not something I would do.)
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 10:39     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
I’m 42. Smoke and drink. Few wrinkles—it’s genes
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 10:33     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing you can do - after the obvious no smoking, Retin-A at night, sunscreen during the day - is Botox. Do small amounts of it and start early on. Do it twice per year. If you're starting to get the slightest hint of 11s or horizontal forehead lines, start getting Botox injected there. It will have a preventative effect. A lot of us started Botox too late. I wouldn't worry about fillers. I think 20s is way too young to start fillers. They can really make you look crazy over time. They're also more expensive and more medically risky.

You will get way more bang for your buck out of Botox, generic Retin-A and sunscreen than you will out of all the, say, Drunk Elephant or Skinceutical products you can find. You don't need that stuff.



Agree completely! Botox is quick and lasts a few months. There’s no serum or cream that will get you close to the results Botox will. And it’s only obvious when it’s been done badly! Obviously a good injector will give you natural results.

Agree too on sunscreen!

I use red light therapy too- I see a big difference but it’s a commitment- 5-6 days a week I use it for 15-20 min. A long time to do nothing but lay there with your eyes closed relaxing though.

Also, differin your skin doesn’t take to retina a stop a retenoid (?) but less drying.


I've read about this in some article. Can you recommend what you're using?
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 08:58     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:I am 34 and my skin is flawless. No lines, nothing. I do basic sunscreen moisturizer and Retinol cream at night.

But I’m middle eastern. The secret is genetics, and everyone looks older eventually. I don’t even think I look younger than my age, I just have good skin.

Now if only it were so easy for me to lose weight! Life would be perfect!


Well you're only 34 so that makes sense, middle Eastern or no.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 08:54     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
I am 34 and my skin is flawless. No lines, nothing. I do basic sunscreen moisturizer and Retinol cream at night.

But I’m middle eastern. The secret is genetics, and everyone looks older eventually. I don’t even think I look younger than my age, I just have good skin.

Now if only it were so easy for me to lose weight! Life would be perfect!
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 02:37     Subject: If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing you can do - after the obvious no smoking, Retin-A at night, sunscreen during the day - is Botox. Do small amounts of it and start early on. Do it twice per year. If you're starting to get the slightest hint of 11s or horizontal forehead lines, start getting Botox injected there. It will have a preventative effect. A lot of us started Botox too late. I wouldn't worry about fillers. I think 20s is way too young to start fillers. They can really make you look crazy over time. They're also more expensive and more medically risky.

You will get way more bang for your buck out of Botox, generic Retin-A and sunscreen than you will out of all the, say, Drunk Elephant or Skinceutical products you can find. You don't need that stuff.



Agree completely! Botox is quick and lasts a few months. There’s no serum or cream that will get you close to the results Botox will. And it’s only obvious when it’s been done badly! Obviously a good injector will give you natural results.

Agree too on sunscreen!

I use red light therapy too- I see a big difference but it’s a commitment- 5-6 days a week I use it for 15-20 min. A long time to do nothing but lay there with your eyes closed relaxing though.

Also, differin your skin doesn’t take to retina a stop a retenoid (?) but less drying.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 02:00     Subject: Re:If you are in your mid 30s-40s and your face looks good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just turned 39. I spend about $4,000/year on Botox and fillers for around the mouth. A year ago I spent about $1,700 on a laser treatments for brown/red spots. Skincare products are tough to estimate (I should really add this up). I generally use good drugstore brands (Cetaphil/Cerave or lesser expensive natural brands Alba, Acure) for washes and moisturizers. Toners/acid are La Roche Posay, Ren, Alba. Sunscreen is Elta MD (cheaper from Costco). Makeup is always good quality but I don’t use much so rarely buy it. Have semi oily skin and still battle acne, but also have extremely sensitive skin so have to be careful with products. Been doing Botox and fillers for almost two years and will never stop. Honestly I never thought I would spend so much on my face but the results are worth it. It’s definitely a luxury though and I have to budget.


If you are already spending $4k+ a year before 40 are you worried about what will you be spending in your 60s? Gabby Reece wrote about 'chasing the face' with Sheryl Crow. It was about work you have done creating different problems elsewhere and the slippery slope to having to get more and more and more done as time goes on. They opted out eventually.

Did the brown spots return? I find even with heavy sunscreen use and hats---they eventually start to come back.


Yes, I’m a little concerned about what I’ll be spending on 10, 20 years down the line, but honestly the Botox (for the 11s) and filler (smile lines) make me look and feel so much better about myself. I was starting to look angry and tired all the time. I tend to stress out easily and my face becomes very tense. The Botox has actually helped me not frown and furrow my brows as much, which I think is a good thing for stress. I go to a high end derm with a great reputation because I was/am worried about results. I’m hoping that the prices of these procedures come down in the future and that the things I’m having done now will help prevent more problems down the road.

As far as the spots, so far so good, but I’ve heard that too about them coming back.