Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:35     Subject: Re:Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it's a stretch to automatically assume this little girl must be being raped by her brother because of what OP described? Sounds like he is overly touchy/feely, but it's a HUGE LEAP from that to actually putting his penis in her vagina against her will at night. Boys that age are hormonal- YES. But he probably has some freaking self control when it comes to RAPING HIS 10 YEAR OLD SISTER. Like how you get mad at your little brother so you push him down sometimes, that doesn't mean you are beating him unconscious with a baseball bat in your shared room at night because that's such a HUGE LEAP from sometimes pushing him when you're mad. Being hormonal and clearly too touchy with her at the pool is a far cry from actually physically raping her. Everyone on this thread needs to take a deep breath.


He's a boy that is past puberty and has male hormones raging through his system that he's never had before. He doesn't know what is right and what is wrong. If he knows about the birds and the bees, he probably thinks that penetration is the only thing that qualifies as inappropriate behavior. But a hormonal heterosexual teenager who is in a bathing suit and is grabbing a girl and potentially rubbing his genitals against her, even playfully, and even if it is his sister is inappropriate behavior. But he has no way of knowing this unless he's been reading or his parents have taught him. Since his parents are clueless about this being an issue, they need to be instructed that this is wrong and that they need to step up as parents and teach him appropriate boundaries. As a post-pubescent male he needs to observe personal space rules and needs to learn about inappropriate touching which includes what OP has written about.

OP, you need to talk to his parents and let them find a way to teach him in private about boundaries and appropriate vs inappropriate behavior and touching.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:29     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:Why exactly does anyone think he isn’t raping her at night - when he has every opportunity - and obviously has raging sexual (sick) attraction towards her?


Same reason why a lot of men look at child porn, or rape fantasy porn, or incest porn, but most of those men don't 1) have sex with children, 2) go out and rape a stranger, or 3) have sex with their aunts. IT'S A HUGE LEAP.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:25     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Why exactly does anyone think he isn’t raping her at night - when he has every opportunity - and obviously has raging sexual (sick) attraction towards her?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:20     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:Are the posters who think people are overreacting really unaware that sexual assault does not require PIV penetration? Just based on what the OP has posted about her observations in public, it's not at all unlikely that he is taking liberties with his sister in the privacy of their home.

What I don't understand is why OP keeps posting updates about what's been observed but no word on whether or not someone has been notified. I mean, 9 pages in there should be some follow up. No?


I am one poster who thinks a lot of people on this thread are overreacting and I don't deny that some form of what we could call sexual assault might be going on- you could argue that the picking her up and hugging her at the pool is sexual assault, if there is sexual gratification as the goal and the girl feels unhappy/dirty about it. But I am arguing that the people claiming "he has to be raping her at night!" are overreacting. It is a huge leap from wrestling/ hugging to get what he probably thinks is some secret gratification, to PIV rape of his sister. That's all.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:10     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. What sets the context for this behavior is that the boy has always gotten what he wanted. Permissive style parenting. Mom never said no to him when he was little. He always did what he wanted and he is used to getting his way by any way possible.

He always walked all over his sister - took her birthday presents, ruined her activities because he wanted to do something else, the family did what he wanted, she didn't have any voice. He pushes her friends away because he want her to belong to him. So the way I see him treat her is like his personal property. I think she got used to it though.


This family is very screwed up.

So many mothers are creating entitled boys/men every time they fail to say NO.

Why are fathers more willing to stand up to their son’s bad behavior?


I wouldn't jump to thinking this kind of thing only happens with sons. I don't think parents of boys have a lock on bad parenting. There are bad parents to kids of both genders.

True, but boys and men have the physical power over girls and women. Let’s just be honest.

Mothers can change things when they start saying NO to their boys bad behavior.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:07     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:OP here. What sets the context for this behavior is that the boy has always gotten what he wanted. Permissive style parenting. Mom never said no to him when he was little. He always did what he wanted and he is used to getting his way by any way possible.

He always walked all over his sister - took her birthday presents, ruined her activities because he wanted to do something else, the family did what he wanted, she didn't have any voice. He pushes her friends away because he want her to belong to him. So the way I see him treat her is like his personal property. I think she got used to it though.


“Mom never said no to him when he was little.”
I think this is about 90% of mothers, sadly. I see it every day. Why is this?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:04     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:Are the posters who think people are overreacting really unaware that sexual assault does not require PIV penetration? Just based on what the OP has posted about her observations in public, it's not at all unlikely that he is taking liberties with his sister in the privacy of their home.

What I don't understand is why OP keeps posting updates about what's been observed but no word on whether or not someone has been notified. I mean, 9 pages in there should be some follow up. No?


I got the number. I will call when I can talk privately. I'm at work. I'll post updates.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:04     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. What sets the context for this behavior is that the boy has always gotten what he wanted. Permissive style parenting. Mom never said no to him when he was little. He always did what he wanted and he is used to getting his way by any way possible.

He always walked all over his sister - took her birthday presents, ruined her activities because he wanted to do something else, the family did what he wanted, she didn't have any voice. He pushes her friends away because he want her to belong to him. So the way I see him treat her is like his personal property. I think she got used to it though.


This family is very screwed up.

So many mothers are creating entitled boys/men every time they fail to say NO.

Why are fathers more willing to stand up to their son’s bad behavior?


I wouldn't jump to thinking this kind of thing only happens with sons. I don't think parents of boys have a lock on bad parenting. There are bad parents to kids of both genders.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:03     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:I would have never remained silent the first time I witnessed ANYTHING inappropriate.

I have in fact said in public to complete strangers:
“Your sister said NO!”

I don’t care if anyone is embarrassed.
I DO care about child safety and protection.
You all should to.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 16:01     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. What sets the context for this behavior is that the boy has always gotten what he wanted. Permissive style parenting. Mom never said no to him when he was little. He always did what he wanted and he is used to getting his way by any way possible.

He always walked all over his sister - took her birthday presents, ruined her activities because he wanted to do something else, the family did what he wanted, she didn't have any voice. He pushes her friends away because he want her to belong to him. So the way I see him treat her is like his personal property. I think she got used to it though.


This family is very screwed up.

So many mothers are creating entitled boys/men every time they fail to say NO.

Why are fathers more willing to stand up to their son’s bad behavior?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 15:56     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:Are the posters who think people are overreacting really unaware that sexual assault does not require PIV penetration? Just based on what the OP has posted about her observations in public, it's not at all unlikely that he is taking liberties with his sister in the privacy of their home.

What I don't understand is why OP keeps posting updates about what's been observed but no word on whether or not someone has been notified. I mean, 9 pages in there should be some follow up. No?


I think it was just maybe 15 min ago that she said she found the number. What time is it on the east coast?

The behavior is so inappropriate, and I get more and more sick every time I read more about this family. That poor girl.

I agree with you that sexual assault is not necessarily PIV penetration and that should not be the focus of this thread anyway.

Anyone who thinks this is rare should get on twitter. A lot of people come out about their sexual assaults as children on there. There are so many people who were victimized, and people around them ignored the signs and looked away.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 15:51     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Are the posters who think people are overreacting really unaware that sexual assault does not require PIV penetration? Just based on what the OP has posted about her observations in public, it's not at all unlikely that he is taking liberties with his sister in the privacy of their home.

What I don't understand is why OP keeps posting updates about what's been observed but no word on whether or not someone has been notified. I mean, 9 pages in there should be some follow up. No?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 15:51     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I tip CPS and then my friend will be sharing this with me and am I supposed to pretend it wasn't me?


Honestly, who the hell cares about you and your nitwit friendship with the molester-enabler? Grow a pair and don’t something before it’s too late.

DO SOMETHING

sorry for the typo, being pissed off does that to me
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 15:50     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:So I tip CPS and then my friend will be sharing this with me and am I supposed to pretend it wasn't me?


Honestly, who the hell cares about you and your nitwit friendship with the molester-enabler? Grow a pair and don’t something before it’s too late.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2019 15:50     Subject: Teen is all over his sister
Anonymous wrote:OP here. What sets the context for this behavior is that the boy has always gotten what he wanted. Permissive style parenting. Mom never said no to him when he was little. He always did what he wanted and he is used to getting his way by any way possible.

He always walked all over his sister - took her birthday presents, ruined her activities because he wanted to do something else, the family did what he wanted, she didn't have any voice. He pushes her friends away because he want her to belong to him. So the way I see him treat her is like his personal property. I think she got used to it though.


This family is very screwed up.