Anonymous
Post 07/24/2019 07:23     Subject: Re:More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The person stating that slapping others in the back of the head and threatening with more bodily harm is cultural does NOT speak for the entire AA community. I am an AA mother and this is not considered normal behavior in our household or the manner in which my children know they are expected to behave out in public. Further, we don't know any AA families where this is taught in their homes or condoned. I understand there may be a knee jerk reaction to some of the sentiments being expressed here but please don't attempt to defend the indefensible by claiming this abhorrent behavior is cultural. Its simply not and you do a grave disservice to our community by stating otherwise.


Yep, another black mom here. Not "cultural" in the least. We've trained our young daughter to tell the teacher if someone hits her, for example. We don't want her getting labeled as violent at her private school.

I will say that I grew up in a non-affluent household with many black kids from working class backgrounds or who lived in the projects. Nonetheless, the poor black folks in DC are the most destitute and trauma-exposed I've ever encountered, so I'm not as surprised that stuff like this happens here among teens.


+2

I grew up in inner city Baltimore. What was posted was not part of the culture and I’ve never heard anyone else claim it is.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2019 07:19     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What did the woman do to the teen to prompt being hit and chased? Yeah, teens and kids are loud in the metro but they generally leave you alone. I can’t understand why a teen would jump someone unprovoked.


My ex-wife was hit in the back on a metro in DC simply because she was wearing her engagement ring. No provocation, the person said something about white people jewelry. Yes it does happen unprovoked.


That sounds like someone with a mental health issue. “White people jewelry” is not a concept I’ve heard of despite being AA for 47 years. “White people food” is a different matter. Maybe he was complaining, not about the carats on her finger, but the bunch of locally-sourced organic rainbow carrots in her reusable shopping bag? They are the most reviled symbol of gentrification.

In all seriousness, when a white person does something like that or even shoots up a black church, the assumption by whites is he or she is mentally ill. When the person is black, white people seem to forget mental illness even exists.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2019 07:03     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:It’s atrocious behavior. Human interactions have degraded. I can’t blame trump in this case. I blame the parents. Anyone who defends these assholes is no batter than a racist. We should expect more from people. Basic civility and decency.

Yes, the p a rents as re losers and produce loser kids. There is no hope for them.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2019 20:59     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The behavior is 100% wrong and the kids should be held accountable. That does not make them animals. That makes them lawbreaking people. And no one should be above the law.



Last time I checked, humans ARE animals. Just more intelligent and civilized (normally). Apparently those characteristics missed these kids.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2019 20:59     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.


And, I think the whole point of this thread is to point out that there are teens and young adults attacking people on Metro and there has been little to no response, law enforcement-wise.
We can talk - til we're blue in the face - about how we should react when rowdy teens or obnoxious people enter your car on the metro. (if one even has a chance to react before one is randomly attacked)

What do YOU think the law enforcement reaction should be to these teens who assault innocent passengers?


I think the Metro Transit Police’s reaction should be continued. Thus far this year they’ve made 1,446 Arrests, issued 6,061 Citations/Summonses, given 183 Written Warnings, and addressed 5,091 incidents of Fare Evasion. I know the popular cynical stance is to assume nothing is being done but based on those numbers it doesn’t look like they’re sitting on their asses letting miscreants run amuck and all hell break loose to me. And recent statistics have shown that serious crimes involving the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) are the lowest since 1999. So, while I’m not sure who lied to you and told you to expect public transportation in a major metropolitan city to be totally blissful and completely crime free but, I am sure that things are nowhere near as bad as you profess - otherwise you’d be recalling your own experience of getting your ass whupped instead of getting worked up into hysterics about someone else’s aberrant ordeal.



This is great, I am glad Metro is taking care evasion seriously because they are probably catching some.of the misbehaving teens causing problems.


Better yet, if Metro police nab violators for crimes, escort them on the train over the Potomac (once they're in and riding the system, who's to say where the fare evasion crime actually occurred?). Haul them out at the Pentagon or Rossyn and and book them and charge them in the Old Dominion.


Heh heh
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2019 20:55     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:The behavior is 100% wrong and the kids should be held accountable. That does not make them animals. That makes them lawbreaking people. And no one should be above the law.

Anonymous
Post 07/11/2019 12:46     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.


And, I think the whole point of this thread is to point out that there are teens and young adults attacking people on Metro and there has been little to no response, law enforcement-wise.
We can talk - til we're blue in the face - about how we should react when rowdy teens or obnoxious people enter your car on the metro. (if one even has a chance to react before one is randomly attacked)

What do YOU think the law enforcement reaction should be to these teens who assault innocent passengers?


I think the Metro Transit Police’s reaction should be continued. Thus far this year they’ve made 1,446 Arrests, issued 6,061 Citations/Summonses, given 183 Written Warnings, and addressed 5,091 incidents of Fare Evasion. I know the popular cynical stance is to assume nothing is being done but based on those numbers it doesn’t look like they’re sitting on their asses letting miscreants run amuck and all hell break loose to me. And recent statistics have shown that serious crimes involving the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) are the lowest since 1999. So, while I’m not sure who lied to you and told you to expect public transportation in a major metropolitan city to be totally blissful and completely crime free but, I am sure that things are nowhere near as bad as you profess - otherwise you’d be recalling your own experience of getting your ass whupped instead of getting worked up into hysterics about someone else’s aberrant ordeal.



This is great, I am glad Metro is taking care evasion seriously because they are probably catching some.of the misbehaving teens causing problems.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2019 12:43     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.


And, I think the whole point of this thread is to point out that there are teens and young adults attacking people on Metro and there has been little to no response, law enforcement-wise.
We can talk - til we're blue in the face - about how we should react when rowdy teens or obnoxious people enter your car on the metro. (if one even has a chance to react before one is randomly attacked)

What do YOU think the law enforcement reaction should be to these teens who assault innocent passengers?


I think the Metro Transit Police’s reaction should be continued. Thus far this year they’ve made 1,446 Arrests, issued 6,061 Citations/Summonses, given 183 Written Warnings, and addressed 5,091 incidents of Fare Evasion. I know the popular cynical stance is to assume nothing is being done but based on those numbers it doesn’t look like they’re sitting on their asses letting miscreants run amuck and all hell break loose to me. And recent statistics have shown that serious crimes involving the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) are the lowest since 1999. So, while I’m not sure who lied to you and told you to expect public transportation in a major metropolitan city to be totally blissful and completely crime free but, I am sure that things are nowhere near as bad as you profess - otherwise you’d be recalling your own experience of getting your ass whupped instead of getting worked up into hysterics about someone else’s aberrant ordeal.



This is great, I am glad Metro is taking care evasion seriously because they are probably catching some.of the misbehaving teens causing problems.


Better yet, if Metro police nab violators for crimes, escort them on the train over the Potomac (once they're in and riding the system, who's to say where the fare evasion crime actually occurred?). Haul them out at the Pentagon or Rossyn and and book them and charge them in the Old Dominion.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2019 00:40     Subject: Re:More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:The person stating that slapping others in the back of the head and threatening with more bodily harm is cultural does NOT speak for the entire AA community. I am an AA mother and this is not considered normal behavior in our household or the manner in which my children know they are expected to behave out in public. Further, we don't know any AA families where this is taught in their homes or condoned. I understand there may be a knee jerk reaction to some of the sentiments being expressed here but please don't attempt to defend the indefensible by claiming this abhorrent behavior is cultural. Its simply not and you do a grave disservice to our community by stating otherwise.


Yep, another black mom here. Not "cultural" in the least. We've trained our young daughter to tell the teacher if someone hits her, for example. We don't want her getting labeled as violent at her private school.

I will say that I grew up in a non-affluent household with many black kids from working class backgrounds or who lived in the projects. Nonetheless, the poor black folks in DC are the most destitute and trauma-exposed I've ever encountered, so I'm not as surprised that stuff like this happens here among teens.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2019 00:30     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

"The person stating that slapping others in the back of the head and threatening with more bodily harm is cultural does NOT speak for the entire AA community. I am an AA mother and this is not considered normal behavior in our household or the manner in which my children know they are expected to behave out in public. Further, we don't know any AA families where this is taught in their homes or condoned. I understand there may be a knee jerk reaction to some of the sentiments being expressed here but please don't attempt to defend the indefensible by claiming this abhorrent behavior is cultural. Its simply not and you do a grave disservice to our community by stating otherwise."

Considering most of us getting slapped are black X 2. Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 22:49     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.


And, I think the whole point of this thread is to point out that there are teens and young adults attacking people on Metro and there has been little to no response, law enforcement-wise.
We can talk - til we're blue in the face - about how we should react when rowdy teens or obnoxious people enter your car on the metro. (if one even has a chance to react before one is randomly attacked)

What do YOU think the law enforcement reaction should be to these teens who assault innocent passengers?


I think the Metro Transit Police’s reaction should be continued. Thus far this year they’ve made 1,446 Arrests, issued 6,061 Citations/Summonses, given 183 Written Warnings, and addressed 5,091 incidents of Fare Evasion. I know the popular cynical stance is to assume nothing is being done but based on those numbers it doesn’t look like they’re sitting on their asses letting miscreants run amuck and all hell break loose to me. And recent statistics have shown that serious crimes involving the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) are the lowest since 1999. So, while I’m not sure who lied to you and told you to expect public transportation in a major metropolitan city to be totally blissful and completely crime free but, I am sure that things are nowhere near as bad as you profess - otherwise you’d be recalling your own experience of getting your ass whupped instead of getting worked up into hysterics about someone else’s aberrant ordeal.



This is great, I am glad Metro is taking care evasion seriously because they are probably catching some.of the misbehaving teens causing problems.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 22:47     Subject: Re:More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

The person stating that slapping others in the back of the head and threatening with more bodily harm is cultural does NOT speak for the entire AA community. I am an AA mother and this is not considered normal behavior in our household or the manner in which my children know they are expected to behave out in public. Further, we don't know any AA families where this is taught in their homes or condoned. I understand there may be a knee jerk reaction to some of the sentiments being expressed here but please don't attempt to defend the indefensible by claiming this abhorrent behavior is cultural. Its simply not and you do a grave disservice to our community by stating otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 22:02     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.


And, I think the whole point of this thread is to point out that there are teens and young adults attacking people on Metro and there has been little to no response, law enforcement-wise.
We can talk - til we're blue in the face - about how we should react when rowdy teens or obnoxious people enter your car on the metro. (if one even has a chance to react before one is randomly attacked)

What do YOU think the law enforcement reaction should be to these teens who assault innocent passengers?


I think the Metro Transit Police’s reaction should be continued. Thus far this year they’ve made 1,446 Arrests, issued 6,061 Citations/Summonses, given 183 Written Warnings, and addressed 5,091 incidents of Fare Evasion. I know the popular cynical stance is to assume nothing is being done but based on those numbers it doesn’t look like they’re sitting on their asses letting miscreants run amuck and all hell break loose to me. And recent statistics have shown that serious crimes involving the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) are the lowest since 1999. So, while I’m not sure who lied to you and told you to expect public transportation in a major metropolitan city to be totally blissful and completely crime free but, I am sure that things are nowhere near as bad as you profess - otherwise you’d be recalling your own experience of getting your ass whupped instead of getting worked up into hysterics about someone else’s aberrant ordeal.

Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 20:59     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

It’s atrocious behavior. Human interactions have degraded. I can’t blame trump in this case. I blame the parents. Anyone who defends these assholes is no batter than a racist. We should expect more from people. Basic civility and decency.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 20:51     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.


And, I think the whole point of this thread is to point out that there are teens and young adults attacking people on Metro and there has been little to no response, law enforcement-wise.
We can talk - til we're blue in the face - about how we should react when rowdy teens or obnoxious people enter your car on the metro. (if one even has a chance to react before one is randomly attacked)

What do YOU think the law enforcement reaction should be to these teens who assault innocent passengers?