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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a tiny minority, our neighborhood still hemorrhages good families when middle school and high school near.

Which neighborhood?

Palisades

Palisades has never had a significant # of kids going to Hardy & then Wilson. Key is the last adopter of the Hardy schools currently - all of the other schools in the pattern have had a huge uptick - but remember this is a school where parents were petitioning to keep a principal who swept and ineptly dealt with a major racist incident this year. So it's not really part of this equation. Overall the Wilson feeder network is WAY overcrowded - hence all the overcrowding Ward 3 network committees. There's trailers at Deal, Hardy is expanding to accommodate students and Wilson keeps growing and having fewer and fewer spaces for OOB kids. DCUM is often in fantasy land...

Wait, was there really s petition? I didn't see it. I keep checking the new principals thread, a bit in disbelief that the Key principal isn't out.

Yes, there was literally a big petition from parents who supported keeping him. MOST of those parents who did support him are the ones who are on track to peel off for privates and/or already have for this coming year... it is pretty unbelievable he was allowed to stay.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a tiny minority, our neighborhood still hemorrhages good families when middle school and high school near.

Which neighborhood?

Palisades

Palisades has never had a significant # of kids going to Hardy & then Wilson. Key is the last adopter of the Hardy schools currently - all of the other schools in the pattern have had a huge uptick - but remember this is a school where parents were petitioning to keep a principal who swept and ineptly dealt with a major racist incident this year. So it's not really part of this equation. Overall the Wilson feeder network is WAY overcrowded - hence all the overcrowding Ward 3 network committees. There's trailers at Deal, Hardy is expanding to accommodate students and Wilson keeps growing and having fewer and fewer spaces for OOB kids. DCUM is often in fantasy land...

Wait, was there really s petition? I didn't see it. I keep checking the new principals thread, a bit in disbelief that the Key principal isn't out.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a tiny minority, our neighborhood still hemorrhages good families when middle school and high school near.

Which neighborhood?

Palisades

Palisades has never had a significant # of kids going to Hardy & then Wilson. Key is the last adopter of the Hardy schools currently - all of the other schools in the pattern have had a huge uptick - but remember this is a school where parents were petitioning to keep a principal who swept and ineptly dealt with a major racist incident this year. So it's not really part of this equation. Overall the Wilson feeder network is WAY overcrowded - hence all the overcrowding Ward 3 network committees. There's trailers at Deal, Hardy is expanding to accommodate students and Wilson keeps growing and having fewer and fewer spaces for OOB kids. DCUM is often in fantasy land...

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a tiny minority, our neighborhood still hemorrhages good families when middle school and high school near.

Which neighborhood?

Palisades

I DON'T think Wilson is "gong down the drain," but I DO think it had a much stronger academic program under the previous principal. I DO think the top 20% of students were better prepared to enter college under the previous principal. But Wilson remains pretty good, academically. I don't think there's a contradiction evaluating the relative merits of Wilson's program this way.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a tiny minority, our neighborhood still hemorrhages good families when middle school and high school near.

Which neighborhood?

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Anonymous wrote:Lets wait until there are no W3 kids in trailers and the schools have excess capacity before going on a building boom.

Why wait? None of the residents will be coming for the schools, given that the pyramid is now crap, because of Wilson. QED.

"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." --Abraham Lincoln

I don’t think it is a tiny minority, our neighborhood still hemorrhages good families when middle school and high school near.

I DO NOT work for the developer lobby, but I do support more housing, including in affluent neighborhoods and am generally skeptical of the claims it will ruin everything.

I am also skeptical that Wilson is going down the drain.

It seemed to me that some of the same people who say Wilson is going down the drain are also people who think there is massive demand by families with kids to live in the Deal zone. This struck me as a contradiction - one or the other must be false.

Seems like there are several voices here saying Wilson is NOT going down the drain. We can agree to disagree on the benefits of added housing, but at least y'all are consistent.

There still seems to be one voice who thinks Wilson IS going down the drain, and is unable to reconcile the contradiction, so resorts to the usual NIMBY ad hominems.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets wait until there are no W3 kids in trailers and the schools have excess capacity before going on a building boom.

Why wait? None of the residents will be coming for the schools, given that the pyramid is now crap, because of Wilson. QED.

You sound quite gleeful. Greater Washington, perhaps?

Just trying to get clarity.

Is the Deal zone still desirable for families with kids, or not?

98% of parents in DC would tell you that the entire Wilson feeder pattern is desirable for families with kids.

I think a tiny minority on DCUM are saying they will avoid Wilson when the time comes. Who knows what they will actually do.

That, or someone who works for the developer lobby is trying to create the impression that some people will avoid Wilson. I think the odds are close to zero that any parent who is talking about avoiding Wilson today would have considered sending their kids there the in the years before "Honors for All" was being implemented.

According to my kid, there has been a really significant change in the environment of the school due to:

1. Under-the-radar efforts to get rid of kids with serious discipline issues (not sure how, but my kid knows of many kids with a history of fights or drug sales who were at Wilson and were suddenly gone after the rash of overdoses in, I think, 2017).

2. The changing demographic makeup of the student body with more in boundary kids, a change that my kid laments but many parents who are afraid of a diverse school probably welcome.

Students who conduct illegal activity are usually sent to one DC's alternative school, at least for a time. I know of a kid caught selling drugs at McKinley who went there for a semester but was ultimately allowed to return to McKinley.

If a kid with behavior problems or history of tardiness or unexcused absences is OOB, they can lose their OOB seat and return to their IB school.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets wait until there are no W3 kids in trailers and the schools have excess capacity before going on a building boom.

Why wait? None of the residents will be coming for the schools, given that the pyramid is now crap, because of Wilson. QED.

You sound quite gleeful. Greater Washington, perhaps?

Just trying to get clarity.

Is the Deal zone still desirable for families with kids, or not?

98% of parents in DC would tell you that the entire Wilson feeder pattern is desirable for families with kids.

I think a tiny minority on DCUM are saying they will avoid Wilson when the time comes. Who knows what they will actually do.

That, or someone who works for the developer lobby is trying to create the impression that some people will avoid Wilson. I think the odds are close to zero that any parent who is talking about avoiding Wilson today would have considered sending their kids there the in the years before "Honors for All" was being implemented.

According to my kid, there has been a really significant change in the environment of the school due to:

1. Under-the-radar efforts to get rid of kids with serious discipline issues (not sure how, but my kid knows of many kids with a history of fights or drug sales who were at Wilson and were suddenly gone after the rash of overdoses in, I think, 2017).

2. The changing demographic makeup of the student body with more in boundary kids, a change that my kid laments but many parents who are afraid of a diverse school probably welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets wait until there are no W3 kids in trailers and the schools have excess capacity before going on a building boom.

Why wait? None of the residents will be coming for the schools, given that the pyramid is now crap, because of Wilson. QED.

Sigh... this is DCUM in a nutshell. Of course, in the real world there is zero actual evidence that people are not choosing Wilson due to these policy changes. Honors for all has been being discussed for many years and the timeline has been clear since 2016. From what I can find, 2016/17 enrollment was 1791, and 2018/19 enrollment was 1829.

But in imaginary DCUM fantasy land, it's accepted as fact (contrary to every available data point) that "overcrowding isn't an issue" and people are already talking about changing building codes.

Serious question: with such a weak grasp of reality, how do you people hold down jobs?

I think parents of younger kids are banking on Honors for All becoming less of a problem once Wilson's demographics are further along in the shifting process.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets wait until there are no W3 kids in trailers and the schools have excess capacity before going on a building boom.

Why wait? None of the residents will be coming for the schools, given that the pyramid is now crap, because of Wilson. QED.

You sound quite gleeful. Greater Washington, perhaps?

Just trying to get clarity.

Is the Deal zone still desirable for families with kids, or not?

98% of parents in DC would tell you that the entire Wilson feeder pattern is desirable for families with kids.

I think a tiny minority on DCUM are saying they will avoid Wilson when the time comes. Who knows what they will actually do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lets wait until there are no W3 kids in trailers and the schools have excess capacity before going on a building boom.

Why wait? None of the residents will be coming for the schools, given that the pyramid is now crap, because of Wilson. QED.

You sound quite gleeful. Greater Washington, perhaps?

Just trying to get clarity.

Is the Deal zone still desirable for families with kids, or not?