Anonymous
04/28/2019 08:05
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
As a former professor, I can tell you why it annoys me when students called me by my first name. The same students invariably call my husband “Professor.” It was just another way women are given less respect than their male peers.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 08:04
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Another professor here. I go over email etiquette the first day of class and it is in the syllabus. An initial email must include a greeting, proper grammar and formatting, and a professional sign-off. If we end up emailing "in real-time," the format can become more casual. If I don't get an initial email in the proper format, I respond back saying please use the proper format. Part of our job is preparing students for the professional world.
I also state that I will not answer any content questions that take more than a one-sentence response over email. Come to class, my office hours, or catch up with a classmate.
You wouldn't email your supervisor at work for a detailed recap of a meeting that you missed. You would find them in person or ask a co-worker.
In the US, the default is Professor. Dr. only if the student is sure the person is a PhD or MD. TAs are generally called by their first name.
Thanks for pissing away families' tuition money getting your email demands out of the way.My Lord, you sound like an egotistical hack.
If you had done your job as a parent, and taught your child this life skill, I wouldn't have to do it. I take the extra time to help your child because I want them to be successful.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 08:04
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calling by first name is just so rude.
Parents pay upwards of $70,000 a year and you want our kids to walk on eggshells and bow down like plebs to liberal arts hacks? Alter your freaking narcotic.
It’s showing proper respect jacka$$. You must think money buys everything.
It's literally their name. It's batsh*t insane any civilian would be triggered by...their name. This isn't Baghdad, it's not a plebe talking to a Marine General.
Would you advise your child to go to a job interview and address the interviewer by their first name?
What does that have to do with the OP's post? Nothing.
I'd say be kind to these academics. They have so little going for them they need to have honorifics like "Dr." and "professor" to validate their existences. It's like Dr. Henry Kissinger said of academic faculties: "The battles are so intense because the stakes are so small."
OP’s post revealed her daughter’s poor judgement. Good judgment, especially in social contexts, is what I’m looking for when I interview someone, bc my work involves client contact.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 08:01
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calling by first name is just so rude.
Parents pay upwards of $70,000 a year and you want our kids to walk on eggshells and bow down like plebs to liberal arts hacks? Alter your freaking narcotic.
It’s showing proper respect jacka$$. You must think money buys everything.
It's literally their name. It's batsh*t insane any civilian would be triggered by...their name. This isn't Baghdad, it's not a plebe talking to a Marine General.
Would you advise your child to go to a job interview and address the interviewer by their first name?
What does that have to do with the OP's post? Nothing.
I'd say be kind to these academics. They have so little going for them they need to have honorifics like "Dr." and "professor" to validate their existences. It's like Dr. Henry Kissinger said of academic faculties: "The battles are so intense because the stakes are so small."
OK then your kids can skip college.
Huh?
Anonymous
04/28/2019 08:00
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:I'm really curious about what these folks saying the professors are unreasonable DO for a living.
From their imperious tones, I'm assuming something high prestige, but those are exactly the jobs where you learn these lessons early and well.
In my federal clerkship, I never called the judge anything but Judge Soandso, or just Judge. Not once, in two years of working cheek to jowl. Not even once I left and joined the storied Judge Soandso Alumni clique.
So...what are these jobs that folks are apparently successfully holding down that never required deference?
?? The OP clearly said most of the faculty preferred to be called by their first names. Judges are not like that; obviously you have to call them judge or "your honor." That's just understood as part of the profession.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 08:00
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calling by first name is just so rude.
Parents pay upwards of $70,000 a year and you want our kids to walk on eggshells and bow down like plebs to liberal arts hacks? Alter your freaking narcotic.
It’s showing proper respect jacka$$. You must think money buys everything.
It's literally their name. It's batsh*t insane any civilian would be triggered by...their name. This isn't Baghdad, it's not a plebe talking to a Marine General.
Would you advise your child to go to a job interview and address the interviewer by their first name?
What does that have to do with the OP's post? Nothing.
I'd say be kind to these academics. They have so little going for them they need to have honorifics like "Dr." and "professor" to validate their existences. It's like Dr. Henry Kissinger said of academic faculties: "The battles are so intense because the stakes are so small."
OK then your kids can skip college.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:54
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
I'm really curious about what these folks saying the professors are unreasonable DO for a living.
From their imperious tones, I'm assuming something high prestige, but those are exactly the jobs where you learn these lessons early and well.
In my federal clerkship, I never called the judge anything but Judge Soandso, or just Judge. Not once, in two years of working cheek to jowl. Not even once I left and joined the storied Judge Soandso Alumni clique.
So...what are these jobs that folks are apparently successfully holding down that never required deference?
From their imperious tones, I'm assuming something high prestige, but those are exactly the jobs where you learn these lessons early and well.
In my federal clerkship, I never called the judge anything but Judge Soandso, or just Judge. Not once, in two years of working cheek to jowl. Not even once I left and joined the storied Judge Soandso Alumni clique.
So...what are these jobs that folks are apparently successfully holding down that never required deference?
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:43
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calling by first name is just so rude.
Parents pay upwards of $70,000 a year and you want our kids to walk on eggshells and bow down like plebs to liberal arts hacks? Alter your freaking narcotic.
It’s showing proper respect jacka$$. You must think money buys everything.
It's literally their name. It's batsh*t insane any civilian would be triggered by...their name. This isn't Baghdad, it's not a plebe talking to a Marine General.
Would you advise your child to go to a job interview and address the interviewer by their first name?
What does that have to do with the OP's post? Nothing.
I'd say be kind to these academics. They have so little going for them they need to have honorifics like "Dr." and "professor" to validate their existences. It's like Dr. Henry Kissinger said of academic faculties: "The battles are so intense because the stakes are so small."
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:43
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
And this is why I never let my kids call adults by their first name. Maybe it is old fashioned but everyone gets some sort of title —
Aunt or Uncle Fname (for family and closest family friends
Ms or Mr Jones or Ms Suzy and Mr John (kids’ friends’ until they say otherwise)
Neighbors are Mr and Mrs Jones until they say otherwise
You never go wrong starting more formal and then getting more casual over time, if the relationship warrants it and the other person agrees.
Whether you pay someone or not makes no difference. My children call the landscaper Mr Smith because he isn’t their friend.
Aunt or Uncle Fname (for family and closest family friends
Ms or Mr Jones or Ms Suzy and Mr John (kids’ friends’ until they say otherwise)
Neighbors are Mr and Mrs Jones until they say otherwise
You never go wrong starting more formal and then getting more casual over time, if the relationship warrants it and the other person agrees.
Whether you pay someone or not makes no difference. My children call the landscaper Mr Smith because he isn’t their friend.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:42
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calling by first name is just so rude.
Parents pay upwards of $70,000 a year and you want our kids to walk on eggshells and bow down like plebs to liberal arts hacks? Alter your freaking narcotic.
It’s showing proper respect jacka$$. You must think money buys everything.
It's literally their name. It's batsh*t insane any civilian would be triggered by...their name. This isn't Baghdad, it's not a plebe talking to a Marine General.
Would you advise your child to go to a job interview and address the interviewer by their first name?
This. Apparently some of these posters would.
Good luck with that.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:39
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calling by first name is just so rude.
Parents pay upwards of $70,000 a year and you want our kids to walk on eggshells and bow down like plebs to liberal arts hacks? Alter your freaking narcotic.
It’s showing proper respect jacka$$. You must think money buys everything.
It's literally their name. It's batsh*t insane any civilian would be triggered by...their name. This isn't Baghdad, it's not a plebe talking to a Marine General.
Would you advise your child to go to a job interview and address the interviewer by their first name?
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:30
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes they should be addressed as Professor, unless the prof says otherwise. Basic respect.
? They should be called "professor" only if they are a "Professor." Instructors are not professors. Wonder what school this is. I would worry about it OP unless your DD is in a major that has a small department and she rsks making a bad name for herself. At a big university this is no big deal.
wouldn't.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:30
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Anonymous wrote:Yes they should be addressed as Professor, unless the prof says otherwise. Basic respect.
? They should be called "professor" only if they are a "Professor." Instructors are not professors. Wonder what school this is. I would worry about it OP unless your DD is in a major that has a small department and she rsks making a bad name for herself. At a big university this is no big deal.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:26
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
I’m a former academic; this is a huge pet peeve of my colleagues. They get extremely casual emails that begin with “Hey” or “Ms. Smith” instead of “Dr. Smith.”
If they have a doctoral degree, they should be addressed as Dr. in email, otherwise Professor if no doctoral degree.
Here are some guidelines:
https://ugr.ue.ucsc.edu/email
If they have a doctoral degree, they should be addressed as Dr. in email, otherwise Professor if no doctoral degree.
Here are some guidelines:
https://ugr.ue.ucsc.edu/email
Anonymous
04/28/2019 07:19
Subject: How are kids supposed to address professors? Dr., Professor, first name? Daughter got rude reaction
Always address as Dr. X or Professor X. If they want to be informal, they will tell you.
In general, in undergrad, I used the formal greeting, in grad school, I used first names (they would say call me Larlo).
As a professional myself (not in academia), I am almost always addressed by first name, occasionally, by Mr. last name, and only rarely Dr. Last Name (usually my management trying to make a point to a customer).
Oh, and I have on project where 5 people have my first name. So, on that they call me Dr. Larlo, which is weird because my first name is not Larlo.
In general, in undergrad, I used the formal greeting, in grad school, I used first names (they would say call me Larlo).
As a professional myself (not in academia), I am almost always addressed by first name, occasionally, by Mr. last name, and only rarely Dr. Last Name (usually my management trying to make a point to a customer).
Oh, and I have on project where 5 people have my first name. So, on that they call me Dr. Larlo, which is weird because my first name is not Larlo.