NNAT: 131
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) - 139/140 / 135 - Composite - 144
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) - don’t know
In-Pool: (Y/N) - Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N) - Yes
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - NOT IN

We are so disappointed and will request the packets tomorrow.

NNAT: 118
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) - 111/129 / 128 - Composite - 127
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) - don’t know
In-Pool: (Y/N) - N
Parent Referral: (Y/N) - Yes w/full documentation
WISC: N
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - IN!

This is my oldest child so my first time through this. I wasn’t sure what to expect. I submitted the parent referral after DD didnt make it into the pool automatically. I provided the max number of samples and pages allowed. I would like to get the full packet from the AART to see what the GBRS and teacher comments were.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 119
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 112/123/116/ Com 118
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 3 F, 1 C
In-Pool: (Y/N) N
Parent Referral: (Y/N) Y
WISC: N/A
Zip Code: 22153
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN). IN

FYI I don't think it's about the number of Frequents vs. Consistents. It's about the teacher comments. DC had two pages of small typed detailed, specific, glowing, creative, outside the box, comments in the GBRS. Plus, DC gets advanced services in Math and Reading and is at a 38 DRA.

My child’s teacher only typed in a few sentences in the gbrs form under each category but gave 3 consistently and one frequently. Did some teachers type out narratives on separate pieces of paper beyond the form?

Yes, my DD teacher wrote a lot and gave specific examples to back her rating. Plus, the the work samples they included lined up with her comments.

NNAT 126, maybe?
Cogat Verbal 123/ Quant 126 / Nonverb 122 / Comp 127
In-Pool N
Zip 20171
Fall I-Ready: 540 Reading, 450 Math.
GBRS: ?, but I bet really high with good comments. DS is a very outgoing people-pleaser and obsessed with history.
WISC: N/A
Work Samples: Submitted.

IN. I was expecting to have to go to the second round.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like there is an over reliance on the teacher’s observations, which is so subjective. Why bother with the tests if they don’t count for anything?

Agree, especially when a child’s teacher assignment is random. Some teachers seem to put a lot more effort into tracking a child’s particular noteworthy moments throughout the year.

With all the ridiculous test prepping that goes on, it’s no wonder they are relying more and more on teacher observations. It’s the test results that have become unreliable.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 107
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 100, 146, 112/129
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 4 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N) :Y
WISC:
Zip Code:
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN): NOT IN

I am kind of disappointed. -

Advanced math seems to be what this child needs form the test scores, not really level iv.

I understand based on scores that’s what it seems but knowing him I am disappointed that he didn’t get through. He has all the gifted behaviors you see when you google traits of gifted behavior kids. They just don’t show in his scores. He loves learning, he is very curious, witty etc..

Then get a WISC and appeal

Anonymous wrote:Ok is anyone getting the sense that some of these file reviewers were drunk or high? I have never seen so many high scores rejected.

This happened last year and happened to my middle child last year.

I had been pretty sure AAP would be a great fit for my DD (youngest kid so not first time through this), but then DD had NNAT and COGAT both in the 120s. I thought maybe I had been wrong but when I got her packet her comments were fantastic -- talked about her above grade level work, thirst for knowledge and challenge etc, and I was really pleased with the work samples selected by the school. DRA 38. She got in. I have to agree with the posters above that those comments seem to have carried a lot of weight this year. I am surprised that some kids with such fantastic test scores didn't get the news they wanted today and I really hope it works out on appeal for those kids. I am happy it worked out for DD, but I do agree that the comments are subjective and some teachers may not put the same effort in as others.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 119
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 112/123/116/ Com 118
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 3 F, 1 C
In-Pool: (Y/N) N
Parent Referral: (Y/N) Y
WISC: N/A
Zip Code: 22153
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN). IN

FYI I don't think it's about the number of Frequents vs. Consistents. It's about the teacher comments. DC had two pages of small typed detailed, specific, glowing, creative, outside the box, comments in the GBRS. Plus, DC gets advanced services in Math and Reading and is at a 38 DRA.

My child’s teacher only typed in a few sentences in the gbrs form under each category but gave 3 consistently and one frequently. Did some teachers type out narratives on separate pieces of paper beyond the form?

It's on the standard GBRS paper in bulleted form. There are 27 bullets and while some are only one sentence long, most of the bullets are three or four sentences long. Even longer for a few.

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like there is an over reliance on the teacher’s observations, which is so subjective. Why bother with the tests if they don’t count for anything?

Agree, especially when a child’s teacher assignment is random. Some teachers seem to put a lot more effort into tracking a child’s particular noteworthy moments throughout the year.

Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 119
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 112/123/116/ Com 118
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 3 F, 1 C
In-Pool: (Y/N) N
Parent Referral: (Y/N) Y
WISC: N/A
Zip Code: 22153
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN). IN

FYI I don't think it's about the number of Frequents vs. Consistents. It's about the teacher comments. DC had two pages of small typed detailed, specific, glowing, creative, outside the box, comments in the GBRS. Plus, DC gets advanced services in Math and Reading and is at a 38 DRA.

My child’s teacher only typed in a few sentences in the gbrs form under each category but gave 3 consistently and one frequently. Did some teachers type out narratives on separate pieces of paper beyond the form?

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Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the odds of a child who is in the referral pool NOT getting in?

I don't know the odds but my oldest did not initially get into Level 4 when he was in the pool in 2nd grade.

My kid was "in the pool" this year based on her test scores and did not get in. Her older sister had much lower test scores and a lower reading level and was in the first round after I parent-referred. This seems like such a crap shoot.

Same for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised my daughter was not let in on my referral.
She barely missed the cutoff for the in CogAT test (within 1-2 points).
What can I do to generate new data at this point?

Have her take the WISC.

If you have lots of money, yes. If not, there are other ways. My DS had similar scores and was rejected. Last year we did a WISC and the scores were all over the place with some super high and some just better than average, it wasn’t clear whether it would help or hurt. I hemmed and hawed about whether to include the WISC in the appeal. As luck would have it, my ADD addled brain had me forget to bring the WISC results that day the appeal was due to be postmarked, so all I sent with the appeal was a letter and 2 work samples. It worked.

FYI if you have Free lunch the WISC is free.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 139
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 130/133/139 Composite 140
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) dont' know
In-Pool: (Y/N) : N
Zip Code: 22180
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - not in

Any suggestion on what to do with our situation? DS already scored 98 & 99 percentile on cogat and nnat.

A good letter and strong work samples did the job for us last year.

Dp here. Who was the letter from?

I wrote it.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 119
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 112/123/116/ Com 118
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 3 F, 1 C
In-Pool: (Y/N) N
Parent Referral: (Y/N) Y
WISC: N/A
Zip Code: 22153
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN). IN

FYI I don't think it's about the number of Frequents vs. Consistents. It's about the teacher comments. DC had two pages of small typed detailed, specific, glowing, creative, outside the box, comments in the GBRS. Plus, DC gets advanced services in Math and Reading and is at a 38 DRA.

Congrats, but that's crazy compared the scores of those that didn't get in.

While I agree, I do think the CoGat was not a good test for my child, who had just gotten over a bad illness that week. I wish I could post all the comments because they really are extraordinary.