Anonymous wrote:The fact that Adnan has maintained his innocence all this time even when he could have gotten out by saying otherwise is pretty convincing to me.

After all the publicity garnered by Serial and Rabia there was no way Adnan could have changed his tune about being innocent and tried to cop a plea that would have gotten him released earlier.

Anonymous wrote:The fact that Adnan has maintained his innocence all this time even when he could have gotten out by saying otherwise is pretty convincing to me.

Agreed. I don’t understand the folks that think he’s guilty (unless they only got their info about the case from serial, which definitely missed some key stuff).

The fact that Adnan has maintained his innocence all this time even when he could have gotten out by saying otherwise is pretty convincing to me.

For those that think he's guilty, what makes you think that? I started relistening to Serial and Undisclosed. I feel like there are others who are more likely to have done it (Mr S? Jay?) but am curious about why people think it was Adnan.

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Anonymous wrote:My issue with all of these stories is that not everyone that didn’t get a fair trail is innocent. But every story we get the narrative is that they are innocent. Adnan very well could have murdered Hae but shouldn’t have been convicted on the evidence presented.

I agree. I think he didn't get a fair trial and should have been released. If the state is so confident he did it, then they can present their evidence the right way in a retrial. I doubt they have enough evidence though. None of this means he didn't do it.

Think he's probably guilty, but also think the investigation was botched and evidence was insufficient for a conviction.

Anonymous wrote:My issue with all of these stories is that not everyone that didn’t get a fair trail is innocent. But every story we get the narrative is that they are innocent. Adnan very well could have murdered Hae but shouldn’t have been convicted on the evidence presented.

I agree. I think he didn't get a fair trial and should have been released. If the state is so confident he did it, then they can present their evidence the right way in a retrial. I doubt they have enough evidence though. None of this means he didn't do it.

He was released on Monday.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/21/1124113669/adnan-syed-serial-release-from-prison-exculpatory-evicence

Anonymous wrote:Today's ep of The Daily is about this - with Sarah Koenig, who I now can only picture as Cinda Canning

Same thought PP, serial also released an update epi in case you want Sarah’s voice and the Serial music/chimes. Felt like 2014!

Today's ep of The Daily is about this - with Sarah Koenig, who I now can only picture as Cinda Canning

Anonymous wrote:Why did two people threaten Hae? Has any backstory been explained about that?

From Serial podcast's new episode.

No, they are still being investigated. They might have been involved together or separately.

One alternate suspect:
Two different people called, several months apart before the trial, and tipped off the police that they had over looked a suspect who had motive. He was heard saying he was upset with Hae. That "he would make her disappear. He would kill her." He had the motive, opportunity and means to commit the crime.

One had a connection to the location where her car was found

One or both have relevant criminal histories, mainly after Hae was murdered. One for sexual assaults'.

Sarah from Serial said she knows who they are. One did take a few polygraphs. One was briefly investigated, but not with much vigor.; he is now in prison for sexual assault. Because the prosecution didn't mention them by name, Serial isn't going name them either.

Jay's testimony is also under scrutiny because his story kept changing, with input from the cops during the interviews. Additionally Jay has changed his story after the trial. None of it adds up. Prosecution told jurors don't worry about questions about Jay's testimony, because the cell phone evidence backs up the story (cops helped) Jay form with each interview. Cell phone evidence is not sufficient with or without Jay's poor testimony.

Bill Ritz, a detective, was accused with misconduct, manipulating, mishandling evidence in another case. That man was exonerated in 2016.

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Prosecution is still investigating

Anonymous wrote:My issue with all of these stories is that not everyone that didn’t get a fair trail is innocent. But every story we get the narrative is that they are innocent. Adnan very well could have murdered Hae but shouldn’t have been convicted on the evidence presented.

So either you believe in the justice system or you don’t.

My issue with all of these stories is that not everyone that didn’t get a fair trail is innocent. But every story we get the narrative is that they are innocent. Adnan very well could have murdered Hae but shouldn’t have been convicted on the evidence presented.

Why did two people threaten Hae? Has any backstory been explained about that?

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else watch the first episode of "The Case Against Adnan Syed" on HBO last night? I was enthralled with Serial a few years ago and I feel myself getting sucked back in.

After being overturned and it looking like he might get a new trial, Adnan's conviction was reinstated by Maryland's highest court on Friday.

I admittedly don't remember some of the details of the case as when I was fresh off listening to Serial
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From what i read and heard, it wasn't a fair trial. I'm neither the judge or the jury or the investigator but would like for a competent team to conduct this case without preconceived biases and solve this mystery so victim and accused can finally get justice.

Thoughts about the two new suspects mentioned? Is one Mr S? Who threatened HML around the time of hr deathan why?