Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You would think that, but as you're reading here, so many parents assume boys with August birthdays will start late. Even when my kid was a newborn, I had people say to me, "Well he'll be the oldest in his class since you can start him late". WTF?
People act like we're rebels for sending our septembers on time. This city is nuts.
Have you ever lived elsewhere? It's not just "this city" or affluent people...I spent the first 15 years of my education career (1995-2010) as a kindergarten teacher in a very middle class part of the Midwest (Appleton, WI area - 9/1 cutoff) and the vast majority of August boys went to school at a young 6 instead of young 5.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don’t understand about all of these redshirting threads. People that believe that 1 extra year can be good for their kids because it will give them more time to mature, will hold their summer kids one year. Those that believe that redshirting is bad, will make kids bored, that is so bad to have An 18-19 year old in high school, will not redshirt.
There are so many decisions that we make for our kids (always what we believe is in their best interests). Are you raising your kids believeing in God, Santa, etc? Are you teaching them math and reading at 4 or waiting until they are in elementary school? We all have different beliefs on what is best for our own (specific) kid. Why do people care so much what other people do? Are the antiredshirted (that believe that redshirting will be a negative for the older kids) so invested in otherwise kids’ lives that worry so much about their parents making the wrong decision?
Now, if you (anti-redshirter) think that redshirting is actually good for those kids, but you can’t afford it for your own, then I see why this may be upsetting... but in his case redshirting is just like anything money can buy... tutors, vacations, private schools, etc.
The vitriolic posters are the ones looking to justify their own past decisions. The are transferring their doubt about their own choice into anger at parents who made a different choice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don’t understand about all of these redshirting threads. People that believe that 1 extra year can be good for their kids because it will give them more time to mature, will hold their summer kids one year. Those that believe that redshirting is bad, will make kids bored, that is so bad to have An 18-19 year old in high school, will not redshirt.
There are so many decisions that we make for our kids (always what we believe is in their best interests). Are you raising your kids believeing in God, Santa, etc? Are you teaching them math and reading at 4 or waiting until they are in elementary school? We all have different beliefs on what is best for our own (specific) kid. Why do people care so much what other people do? Are the antiredshirted (that believe that redshirting will be a negative for the older kids) so invested in otherwise kids’ lives that worry so much about their parents making the wrong decision?
Now, if you (anti-redshirter) think that redshirting is actually good for those kids, but you can’t afford it for your own, then I see why this may be upsetting... but in his case redshirting is just like anything money can buy... tutors, vacations, private schools, etc.
The vitriolic posters are the ones looking to justify their own past decisions. The are transferring their doubt about their own choice into anger at parents who made a different choice.
Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don’t understand about all of these redshirting threads. People that believe that 1 extra year can be good for their kids because it will give them more time to mature, will hold their summer kids one year. Those that believe that redshirting is bad, will make kids bored, that is so bad to have An 18-19 year old in high school, will not redshirt.
There are so many decisions that we make for our kids (always what we believe is in their best interests). Are you raising your kids believeing in God, Santa, etc? Are you teaching them math and reading at 4 or waiting until they are in elementary school? We all have different beliefs on what is best for our own (specific) kid. Why do people care so much what other people do? Are the antiredshirted (that believe that redshirting will be a negative for the older kids) so invested in otherwise kids’ lives that worry so much about their parents making the wrong decision?
Now, if you (anti-redshirter) think that redshirting is actually good for those kids, but you can’t afford it for your own, then I see why this may be upsetting... but in his case redshirting is just like anything money can buy... tutors, vacations, private schools, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Redshirting parents think they are beating the system. They aren’t. When you’re a kid, you want to be older and when you’re an adult, you want to be younger. Redshirting benefits someone in elementary school (most of the time) but starts to hurt them as they hit high school and graduate college. It stinks to lose another year to school. You spend YEARS in school and this isn’t including grad school. Why make your kid go through that just so they are a little bigger or faster in kindergarten? Kindergarten hardly matters. One less year of retirement savings does.
I redshirt my late july birthday boy, and i can assure you I never thought I was "beating the system". Years in school are the same no matter what. So it's an extra year of childhood versus an extra year in the working world. I am fine giving him an extra year of childhood.
Anonymous wrote:Redshirting parents think they are beating the system. They aren’t. When you’re a kid, you want to be older and when you’re an adult, you want to be younger. Redshirting benefits someone in elementary school (most of the time) but starts to hurt them as they hit high school and graduate college. It stinks to lose another year to school. You spend YEARS in school and this isn’t including grad school. Why make your kid go through that just so they are a little bigger or faster in kindergarten? Kindergarten hardly matters. One less year of retirement savings does.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Private schools need to be more open about their cutoff dates because I think some have unofficial cutoffs like June. If a parent follows that then to me it’s not really redshirting and is totally appropriate. If a child goes to a public school or a private school that doesn’t have a different internal cutoff then call it what it is - getting a leg up for your kid.
The laws allow it for many states — it’s not breaking the rules.
If you don’t like the rules, then change them. Don’t bitch about other people who are, in fact, following the rules.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Redshirting parents think they are beating the system. They aren’t. When you’re a kid, you want to be older and when you’re an adult, you want to be younger. Redshirting benefits someone in elementary school (most of the time) but starts to hurt them as they hit high school and graduate college. It stinks to lose another year to school. You spend YEARS in school and this isn’t including grad school. Why make your kid go through that just so they are a little bigger or faster in kindergarten? Kindergarten hardly matters. One less year of retirement savings does.
My parents were of this mindset, too. I ended up graduating college at 21...and had no clue what I wanted to do and wasn’t ready to hit the work force. So I went to law school and never used the degree. It doesn’t help to push someone who is not ready.
I started a 5-year grad program at 21, and have been working in that field for almost 20 years. Not sure you can necessarily blame lack of direction on being younger in your cohort.
Perhaps your parents pushed you toward law school, but that wasn’t your real interest?
I'm sure there was a lot at play, my point being, I would have benefited from another year to mature and decide what I wanted to do. I'm not in favor of pushing kids through as fast as possible with the end goal of graduating college as soon as possible, as the pp I was responding to advocated. I don't think redshirting is a given negative in college as pp said. I think it depends on the child/young adult and just wanted to show another outcome.
Starting kindergarten at 5 instead of 6 isn't pushing as fast as possible.
Anonymous wrote:I understand this explanation but many parents in my community are putting their kids in kindergarten when they are already 6 and nearly 7 essentially sitting the kids out nearly 2 years. The kid should have started at 5, was 5 in the fall they should have started but the parent sits them out.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I understand this explanation but many parents in my community are putting their kids in kindergarten when they are already 6 and nearly 7 essentially sitting the kids out nearly 2 years. The kid should have started at 5, was 5 in the fall they should have started but the parent sits them out.
But that’s illegal, so no. Unless the kid has developmental delays.
Anonymous wrote:I understand this explanation but many parents in my community are putting their kids in kindergarten when they are already 6 and nearly 7 essentially sitting the kids out nearly 2 years. The kid should have started at 5, was 5 in the fall they should have started but the parent sits them out.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Redshirting parents think they are beating the system. They aren’t. When you’re a kid, you want to be older and when you’re an adult, you want to be younger. Redshirting benefits someone in elementary school (most of the time) but starts to hurt them as they hit high school and graduate college. It stinks to lose another year to school. You spend YEARS in school and this isn’t including grad school. Why make your kid go through that just so they are a little bigger or faster in kindergarten? Kindergarten hardly matters. One less year of retirement savings does.
My parents were of this mindset, too. I ended up graduating college at 21...and had no clue what I wanted to do and wasn’t ready to hit the work force. So I went to law school and never used the degree. It doesn’t help to push someone who is not ready.
I started a 5-year grad program at 21, and have been working in that field for almost 20 years. Not sure you can necessarily blame lack of direction on being younger in your cohort.
Perhaps your parents pushed you toward law school, but that wasn’t your real interest?
I'm sure there was a lot at play, my point being, I would have benefited from another year to mature and decide what I wanted to do. I'm not in favor of pushing kids through as fast as possible with the end goal of graduating college as soon as possible, as the pp I was responding to advocated. I don't think redshirting is a given negative in college as pp said. I think it depends on the child/young adult and just wanted to show another outcome.
Anonymous wrote:There are kids who are redshirted twice (and some redshirted kids are retained). This seems to be a specific issue for specific private schools, not an issue that my public school kid will ever encounter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Redshirting parents think they are beating the system. They aren’t. When you’re a kid, you want to be older and when you’re an adult, you want to be younger. Redshirting benefits someone in elementary school (most of the time) but starts to hurt them as they hit high school and graduate college. It stinks to lose another year to school. You spend YEARS in school and this isn’t including grad school. Why make your kid go through that just so they are a little bigger or faster in kindergarten? Kindergarten hardly matters. One less year of retirement savings does.
My parents were of this mindset, too. I ended up graduating college at 21...and had no clue what I wanted to do and wasn’t ready to hit the work force. So I went to law school and never used the degree. It doesn’t help to push someone who is not ready.
I started a 5-year grad program at 21, and have been working in that field for almost 20 years. Not sure you can necessarily blame lack of direction on being younger in your cohort.
Perhaps your parents pushed you toward law school, but that wasn’t your real interest?