Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And I told my husband and OB to pick me. Because I, too, have a whole life in front of me and for two of three births, kids and home for whom to care for.

Wow. I'm a second child. I can't imagine how awful it would be if my older sibling had lost her mother because of me. Talk about setting me up for a life of feeling unloved and blamed by the rest of my family for their suffering. Not to mention that I'd never even know my mother, which would seriously be painful and suck. As a mom now, I can't imagine choosing to leave behind my actual child without his mom. That seems really wrong to me, if the mom has a choice. There's a reason they tell you to put the oxygen mask on first, and it's because kids need their parents.

Anonymous wrote:What is being made legal in NY is comparable to what Kermit Gosnelll is in prison for life.
Let that sink in.

The state basically had to change their definition of homocide as part of this law.

You seem to think that if you keep repeating this, it will magically make it true. It doesn't.

What is being made legal in NY is comparable to what Kermit Gosnelll is in prison for life.
Let that sink in.

The state basically had to change their definition of homocide as part of this law.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

DP.. my protestant pastor disagrees. He said if his wife's life was at risk, he would abort the baby. I think most husbands would choose the wife over the unborn child. I know my DH would.

The Santorums also made that choice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

DP.. my protestant pastor disagrees. He said if his wife's life was at risk, he would abort the baby. I think most husbands would choose the wife over the unborn child. I know my DH would.

I completely respect that, and I think it's sweet.

We just agreed - my husband and I - to place the baby over my life. Thankfully, that wasn't the case! But I will say that IF I did die, we do have enough family members and friends who would step in. So that's definitely a factor.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And that's your choice. But it's not the best choice for every family.

I grew up near a family who lost a mother, leaving behind 5 young children, and her death became a snowball effect that led to one tragedy after another. Those kids desperately needed their mother, who had kept the family stable and sound, and losing her forever ruined their lives (2 of which were needlessly cut short due to self-destructive behavior). Not saying every family goes to hell after a parent dies. But a decision to sacrifice a mother shouldn't be up to the state.

I could not agree more. Also, mothers should be able to chose whether to have additional children, based on their ability to care for the kids they already have.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

And that's your choice. But it's not the best choice for every family.

I grew up near a family who lost a mother, leaving behind 5 young children, and her death became a snowball effect that led to one tragedy after another. Those kids desperately needed their mother, who had kept the family stable and sound, and losing her forever ruined their lives (2 of which were needlessly cut short due to self-destructive behavior). Not saying every family goes to hell after a parent dies. But a decision to sacrifice a mother shouldn't be up to the state.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

DP.. my protestant pastor disagrees. He said if his wife's life was at risk, he would abort the baby. I think most husbands would choose the wife over the unborn child. I know my DH would.

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Because beyond being a mom, I am a person, and my own health and life has innate value.

This is part of why NY is a maker state, not a failed red state, by the by: equality for adults leads to better outcomes for all families and children over longer terms.

I'm 52.

no longer a practicing Catholic - but Italian . . . So there's a close tie btw the two worlds.

married late, had two kids in my late 30s, early 40s - healthy, no interventions

pro-choice to a degree, as I've supported many friends who had abortions - no judgment

But I did tell my husband with both deliveries that if he had to choose between me and the baby, that the baby would be saved. I'm no martyr; let's get that straight. But a baby has a lifetime ahead of him/her.

Anonymous wrote:Omar L. Hamada, MD, MBA
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@OmarHamada
Jan 23
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I want to clear something up so that there is absolutely no doubt.

I’m a Board Certified OB/GYN who has delivered over 2,500 babies.

There’s not a single fetal or maternal condition that requires third trimester abortion. Not one. Delivery, yes. Abortion, no.

Maybe Dr Hamada can discuss the extremely rare cases where 3rd trimester abortions have occured and tell us what he would have done differently. Until he and others who are ranting about this actually address real-life cases, I trust the judgment of the few women who are making heartbreaking decisions about ending their late-term pregnancies based on the advice from their own doctors who actually know their situations.

I feel the only people who should be allowed to support and vote for anti abortion laws are those who have adopted a baby and paid for or reimbursed all the mothers medical care.

Interestingly, most people I know who have adopted are pro-choice and the pro-lifers do not lift a finger for any child other than their own.

Anonymous wrote:Omar L. Hamada, MD, MBA
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@OmarHamada
Jan 23
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I want to clear something up so that there is absolutely no doubt.

I’m a Board Certified OB/GYN who has delivered over 2,500 babies.

There’s not a single fetal or maternal condition that requires third trimester abortion. Not one. Delivery, yes. Abortion, no.

Yet, it's legal in MS, WV and AK, among other states.

Are the laws of other states similar to NY on the assault and battery of pregnant woman resulting in miscarriage issue? So if there was a Scott Peterson redux situation it would only be one count murder in the 1st?

Anonymous wrote:Omar L. Hamada, MD, MBA
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@OmarHamada
Jan 23
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I want to clear something up so that there is absolutely no doubt.

I’m a Board Certified OB/GYN who has delivered over 2,500 babies.

There’s not a single fetal or maternal condition that requires third trimester abortion. Not one. Delivery, yes. Abortion, no.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Abortions after 27 weeks (start of 3rd trimester) are EXCEEDINGLY rare, and are almost certainly due to a very severe issue with the fetus.