Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let it go. Your post above is nonsense. There’s no public or corroborated source other than someone spreading rumors on this forum. That’s a fact. You can make all of these emotion inspiring statements, but that doesn’t make them fact.

Once again, point to the police report that would be required by regulation in this situation and this thread can die with everyone having evidence of fact. Right now there’s nothing other than your emotional statements.

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but I'm sincerely interested in your motivation for continuing to promote the idea that the incidents never happened. If you are in the DA community, either as a DCU parent or friend or acquaintance of any DCU kids, parents, or coaches, then you know what has been reported here is true, even if you don't know all the details. If you have no connections to this community and don't know anything about what happened, why in the world are you continuing to weigh in on the topic?

I’m not the OP, but I agree with he or she that given some of the heinous things brought up in thread, the burden is on you (apparently) to produce even a shred of evidence. The things mentioned here have rules and regulations that would require reporting to the authorities. It’s hard enough to keep such a conspiracy to avoid following the rules to a few people, let alone the large numbers needed to keep quiet here. So, the most likely explanation is that the heinous crime reported here isn’t accurate. It could be that a few kids were let go for activities that didn’t rise to the level of criminality, in which case they wouldn’t need to be reported, but that wouldn’t be a big deal as it happens all the time in any setting. Criminal acts are not as common, and cover-ups of said acts even rarer. So, again, this is much ado about nothing, unless you have concrete evidence of the contrary, which you don’t.

Because if it truly existed, this would already be a news story, given human nature. Now let it rest.

Anonymous wrote:Let it go. Your post above is nonsense. There’s no public or corroborated source other than someone spreading rumors on this forum. That’s a fact. You can make all of these emotion inspiring statements, but that doesn’t make them fact.

Once again, point to the police report that would be required by regulation in this situation and this thread can die with everyone having evidence of fact. Right now there’s nothing other than your emotional statements.

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but I'm sincerely interested in your motivation for continuing to promote the idea that the incidents never happened. If you are in the DA community, either as a DCU parent or friend or acquaintance of any DCU kids, parents, or coaches, then you know what has been reported here is true, even if you don't know all the details. If you have no connections to this community and don't know anything about what happened, why in the world are you continuing to weigh in on the topic?

Let it go. Your post above is nonsense. There’s no public or corroborated source other than someone spreading rumors on this forum. That’s a fact. You can make all of these emotion inspiring statements, but that doesn’t make them fact.

Once again, point to the police report that would be required by regulation in this situation and this thread can die with everyone having evidence of fact. Right now there’s nothing other than your emotional statements.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above would be true if something actually happened.....but to post an allegation with no evidence that it actually happened nor conclusive punishment or action is simply an attempt to generate uncertainty. Akin to throwing a bag of excrement on someone’s nice front door. It can be washed off, but the smell still taints the air. In this case the owner isn’t even aware to clear the air on the matter.

Just some anonymous punk with no knowledge of whether or not something happened publicly posting a rumor of hazing based upon, essentially, the cancellation of a few events.

Funny thing is that the incident did happen lmao

No one knows what if anything happened. no credible sources for anything, just your blather.

Really? No one knows? The kids who did it, the kid it happened to, their families? DC United doesn’t know? Why even post such nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above would be true if something actually happened.....but to post an allegation with no evidence that it actually happened nor conclusive punishment or action is simply an attempt to generate uncertainty. Akin to throwing a bag of excrement on someone’s nice front door. It can be washed off, but the smell still taints the air. In this case the owner isn’t even aware to clear the air on the matter.

Just some anonymous punk with no knowledge of whether or not something happened publicly posting a rumor of hazing based upon, essentially, the cancellation of a few events.

Funny thing is that the incident did happen lmao

No one knows what if anything happened. no credible sources for anything, just your blather.

Anonymous wrote:The above would be true if something actually happened.....but to post an allegation with no evidence that it actually happened nor conclusive punishment or action is simply an attempt to generate uncertainty. Akin to throwing a bag of excrement on someone’s nice front door. It can be washed off, but the smell still taints the air. In this case the owner isn’t even aware to clear the air on the matter.

Just some anonymous punk with no knowledge of whether or not something happened publicly posting a rumor of hazing based upon, essentially, the cancellation of a few events.

Funny thing is that the incident did happen lmao

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW I know of a couple of DA programs who have lost 3-4 over the break though just natural attrition (family moves, team changes. roster shuffling). Be very careful about 'outing' someone just because their name isn't on the roster...

Yes, that's what I was afraid of. For example, #s 68, 71, 73 & 81 all show as not rostered on the game report from last Saturday, but none of them were involved in this.

It really isn't a secret anymore anyway. The players kicked off were 60, 65, 66, 67. 66 is now with Bethesda. 65 is at VDA. Don't know about the other 2.

That may be. There's still no confirmation of exactly what happened and what was/is being done about such allegations. Those players could have moved for other reasons as well. We'll just never know.

Anonymous wrote:FWIW I know of a couple of DA programs who have lost 3-4 over the break though just natural attrition (family moves, team changes. roster shuffling). Be very careful about 'outing' someone just because their name isn't on the roster...

Yes, that's what I was afraid of. For example, #s 68, 71, 73 & 81 all show as not rostered on the game report from last Saturday, but none of them were involved in this.

It really isn't a secret anymore anyway. The players kicked off were 60, 65, 66, 67. 66 is now with Bethesda. 65 is at VDA. Don't know about the other 2.

FWIW I know of a couple of DA programs who have lost 3-4 over the break though just natural attrition (family moves, team changes. roster shuffling). Be very careful about 'outing' someone just because their name isn't on the roster...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The roster of every DA team playing every week is published on US Soccer's DA website. Come March you can just do a comparison of who was playing in December and what the team looks like in March.

I think this is a marvelous idea, even though roster changes may happen for other reasons, for example number changes, approved transfers, player adds, or burnout/quitting.

Dec Rosters below, for posterity's sake. Full names abbreviated to protect the innocent. No pun intended.

DCU

#81 C. A.
#66 M. A.
#80 D. A.
#64 A. B.
#68 B. F.
#65 D. G.
#71 G. L.
#79 T. M.
#61 C. M.
#72 A. M.
#70 A. P.
#73 N. P.
#69 M. R.
#63 F. R.
#74 S. R.
#60 M. S.
#67 D. T.


ARL

#15 A. A.
#11 R. A.
#7 B. A-D.
#6 M. A.
#19 D. D-A.
#10 S. F.
#18 A. G.
#23 F. H.
#70 H. H.
#8 G. K.
#56 J. M.
#91 S. P.
#22 L. P.
#9 O. P.
#14 A. R.
#42 A. R.

Now that March DA games are starting up, any noticable player transfers?

In looking at the current DCU U15 roster....3 of the 4 kids are still rostered. Not sure why the 4th isn't still rostered. This is what a prior posted provided on this though....


"The online rosters don't often reflect all the changes made during the season. Players will be added, but aren't usually taken off, even when they've switched to another DA club. VDA seems to better at keeping up with it than others.

The game reports are what you need to look at. The 4 players kicked off will show as not rostered for every game this spring. http://dcut.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=7411676 "

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The roster of every DA team playing every week is published on US Soccer's DA website. Come March you can just do a comparison of who was playing in December and what the team looks like in March.

I think this is a marvelous idea, even though roster changes may happen for other reasons, for example number changes, approved transfers, player adds, or burnout/quitting.

Dec Rosters below, for posterity's sake. Full names abbreviated to protect the innocent. No pun intended.

DCU

#81 C. A.
#66 M. A.
#80 D. A.
#64 A. B.
#68 B. F.
#65 D. G.
#71 G. L.
#79 T. M.
#61 C. M.
#72 A. M.
#70 A. P.
#73 N. P.
#69 M. R.
#63 F. R.
#74 S. R.
#60 M. S.
#67 D. T.


ARL

#15 A. A.
#11 R. A.
#7 B. A-D.
#6 M. A.
#19 D. D-A.
#10 S. F.
#18 A. G.
#23 F. H.
#70 H. H.
#8 G. K.
#56 J. M.
#91 S. P.
#22 L. P.
#9 O. P.
#14 A. R.
#42 A. R.

Now that March DA games are starting up, any noticable player transfers?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know any of the details of the DC United DA incident, but there was another hazing incident on a Florida DA team that is very disturbing.

http://www.talking-soccer.com/TS4/showthread.php?t=155674

Oh wow, another set of dubious claims on an anonymous board with no substantiation and language used by the rumor mongers so similar to that user in this thread it’s notable.

Guess we should all avoid Weston to be safe. Thanks for the heads up.

I agree. Even if the Florida incident is true, it has nothing to do with DC United DA.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know any of the details of the DC United DA incident, but there was another hazing incident on a Florida DA team that is very disturbing.

http://www.talking-soccer.com/TS4/showthread.php?t=155674

Oh wow, another set of dubious claims on an anonymous board with no substantiation and language used by the rumor mongers so similar to that user in this thread it’s notable.

Guess we should all avoid Weston to be safe. Thanks for the heads up.

I don't know any of the details of the DC United DA incident, but there was another hazing incident on a Florida DA team that is very disturbing.

http://www.talking-soccer.com/TS4/showthread.php?t=155674

Anonymous wrote:The DA rules now include some very strong language about the reporting requirements for this sort of thing. Beginning on page 6: https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fussoccer.box.com%2Fs%2Fwk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

I could be wrong but I don't remember seeing that section when I looked at the rules last summer. Makes me wonder if maybe it was added in direct response to this incident? I could be wrong, but the bolded and underlined parts really jump out. Seems like something I would have noticed. Anyone else?

These rules/language have been there since the beginning of the year, and could not be related to an incident that _allegedly_ occurred in late fall.