Anonymous wrote:Did we already talk about how destroying immigration is also destroying USA's world-leading universities, and destroying our startup and tech industry?

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We allow people to immigrate because of their humanity and our humanity. It’s not about low income or high income. That’s dangerous, amoral thinking.

No you don't. You allow people to immigrate because they have sponsorable family here, because they have a sponsorable job, or because (in very few cases) because they deserve asylum. Humanity is shared by everyone on the planet but the majority will never be allowed to immigrate. Please don't perpetuate the lies that immigration has anything to do with humanity or with whatever myth is carved into Lady Liberty. And to the degree that people are chosen to immigrate based on certain criteria, making income one of these criteria is perfectly reasonable.

There is def humanity in immigration. And "Myth" carved in Statue of Liberty?

Sorry, your way of thinking is immoral not reasonable.

What? My way of thinking mirrors what your laws say. Yes, the words carved into the Statue of Liberty are a myth. There is currently no provision to immigrate to the U.S. just because you're poor and downtrodden. There just isn't. Sorry you don't like the truth.

Yeah there is, it's called the Refugee Act of 1980, and we've brought in millions of refugees that way. At least we did when humanitarian concerns were still a thing.

Refugee doesn't mean poor and downtrodden.

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We allow people to immigrate because of their humanity and our humanity. It’s not about low income or high income. That’s dangerous, amoral thinking.

No you don't. You allow people to immigrate because they have sponsorable family here, because they have a sponsorable job, or because (in very few cases) because they deserve asylum. Humanity is shared by everyone on the planet but the majority will never be allowed to immigrate. Please don't perpetuate the lies that immigration has anything to do with humanity or with whatever myth is carved into Lady Liberty. And to the degree that people are chosen to immigrate based on certain criteria, making income one of these criteria is perfectly reasonable.

There is def humanity in immigration. And "Myth" carved in Statue of Liberty?

Sorry, your way of thinking is immoral not reasonable.

What? My way of thinking mirrors what your laws say. Yes, the words carved into the Statue of Liberty are a myth. There is currently no provision to immigrate to the U.S. just because you're poor and downtrodden. There just isn't. Sorry you don't like the truth.

Yeah there is, it's called the Refugee Act of 1980, and we've brought in millions of refugees that way. At least we did when humanitarian concerns were still a thing.

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I think that allowing children of undocumented immigrants into public schools is putting an enormous strain on school systems (see MCPS) that they cannot and were not designed to handle, and I don't love that we are paying for ESOL, FARMS, etc. for children who aren't citizens or who aren't entitled to be in the country. But they're children who didn't have a choice to come here. It's pretty unconscionable to argue that they shouldn't be in school - what else should they be doing, once they're here? And if they aren't in school, that's going to create more issues - gang violence, another generation of a completely uneducated underclass, possibly illiterate adults, etc. What do we do about that?

And, this is the dilemma. (And, it is the law, as well, that we must (and I agree should) educate the kids.)

Unfortunately, our area is especially taxed by this. (FCPS certainly is.) Some of the people in other areas have no clue of how many undocumented, very poor kids are being poured into some school systems.

As for Pelosi and others saying that there are better ways to secure the border--what are they?

Technology may be useful--but it cannot prevent people from crossing. It may find them, but it cannot stop them--I guess, unless we use tear gas or worse. So, then BP finds them, takes them to a judge and they get a notice to appear which is ignored. If they come with a child, they get a free pass.

Read the WAPO article today. Smugglers are dropping hundreds off at a very remote outpost and the Dems are condemning our BP for not being prepared with medical help in the middle of the night when the outpost is supposed to be closed. I'm guessing there are many places in North Dakota where American citizens are 90 minutes away from medical care, too.

Does anyone else have trouble with the fact that smugglers are making money by recruiting people to ask for asylum?

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We allow people to immigrate because of their humanity and our humanity. It’s not about low income or high income. That’s dangerous, amoral thinking.

No you don't. You allow people to immigrate because they have sponsorable family here, because they have a sponsorable job, or because (in very few cases) because they deserve asylum. Humanity is shared by everyone on the planet but the majority will never be allowed to immigrate. Please don't perpetuate the lies that immigration has anything to do with humanity or with whatever myth is carved into Lady Liberty. And to the degree that people are chosen to immigrate based on certain criteria, making income one of these criteria is perfectly reasonable.

There is def humanity in immigration. And "Myth" carved in Statue of Liberty?

Sorry, your way of thinking is immoral not reasonable.

What? My way of thinking mirrors what your laws say. Yes, the words carved into the Statue of Liberty are a myth. There is currently no provision to immigrate to the U.S. just because you're poor and downtrodden. There just isn't. Sorry you don't like the truth.

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Agree.
No access to public goods unless child is legal status, permanent.
No citizenship by birth for kids of illegals or tourists.or may be any foreigner- they can all apply for greencard or residency status.
Fine on illegal employee and employer
No drivers licenses or IDs for non permanent residents
Tax or fee on cash remittances sent abroad.

So you think children of students, guest workers or employees of international organizations should not be able to attend public schools? Just making sure I understand.

What’s to understand?
Seasonal Temp workers living in worker camps’ don’t bring their kids for USA school.
7 yr Phd aren’t on 12 month cultural or short term visas.
2+ year consulate or World Bank worker don’t pay taxes here nor bring families unless a longer appointment and visa.