Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 20:22     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting background on how the story was developed. One initial lead was from a search for "mortgage receivable" and "Trump" which coughed up a disclosure form from (inactive senior) Third Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Maryanne (Trump) Barry.

She seems to have been a beneficiary of the "All County Supply & Maintenance" scheme wherein All County, owned by the Trump kids, would purchase supplies for Fred's buildings, mark up the bill, and then bill Fred. In that way, Fred could transfer money to his kids without paying estate taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/insider/donald-trump-fred-tax-schemes-wealth.html



Let her go down, too. Let them all go down. At this point I want heads on stakes. I hate these grifting thieves so much.


Five years ago a disgraced Michigan Supreme Court Justice committed $600,000 mortgage/bank fraud on her $1.5M home. She was tossed from the bench, put in prison for 1yr, and paid $90,000 in restitution.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/28/disgraced-michigan-judge-sentencing/2365787/


I think NY will prosecute, but the Trump IRS won't touch the orange criminal.

It is beyond appalling what that vile piece of orange trash gets away with, yet he keeps on going, and the complicit GOP keeps supporting him. Sickening.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 20:07     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting background on how the story was developed. One initial lead was from a search for "mortgage receivable" and "Trump" which coughed up a disclosure form from (inactive senior) Third Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Maryanne (Trump) Barry.

She seems to have been a beneficiary of the "All County Supply & Maintenance" scheme wherein All County, owned by the Trump kids, would purchase supplies for Fred's buildings, mark up the bill, and then bill Fred. In that way, Fred could transfer money to his kids without paying estate taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/insider/donald-trump-fred-tax-schemes-wealth.html



Let her go down, too. Let them all go down. At this point I want heads on stakes. I hate these grifting thieves so much.


Five years ago a disgraced Michigan Supreme Court Justice committed $600,000 mortgage/bank fraud on her $1.5M home. She was tossed from the bench, put in prison for 1yr, and paid $90,000 in restitution.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/28/disgraced-michigan-judge-sentencing/2365787/
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 19:59     Subject: Re:Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the Dems and the media are still trying to dig up stuff like this. It doesn't matter. No one cares. Everyone knows he is a con artist and not nearly as successful as he says he is.

No, not everyone knows this... his supporters don't know this. They think he's a great business man and that's why they voted for him. Some might believe this, but then they are just greedy aholes who have no integrity. So.. either Trumpsters are dumb to fall for this con artist, or know he's a con artist and still voted for him because they were greedy.


I actually think that his supporters probably don't care if it's true. My impression is that the people who really support him - his base, not the rich guys who thought he'd help them get richer - think that everyone is a liar and a fraud. They think that Trump is smart enough to get away with it. They like sticking it to the system. They think taxation is theft anyway. This probably makes them like him more, to the extent it changes their feelings at all - which I doubt it will.


That was a major part of his campaign: all politicians are crooked, so vote for the crooked guy who looks and talks like you. That's why "crooked Hillary" was the bogeyman of the campaign.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 19:58     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The taxpayers made Trump rich. What a country.


He is the ultimate welfare queen.


So true.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 19:38     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can we please, please make tax fraud by plutocrats a major issue? I get that many can’t get beyond Trump-hatred, but think of how much better this country would be if these major tax frauds (and legal tax avoidance) were largely things of the past!


lol

is that really your takeaway here?


When Capone was finally taken down it was for tax evasion. Despite all of Capone's other crimes, that is the one that did him in.

This will most likely be Trump's downfall as well, so yeah, it's important.


LOL no way. Tax code has so many loop wholes and dodges it is very hard to say anything is against the law. The laws are written by the rich for the very rich.

Read the piece. It cites tax experts who note that while it’s unlikely Trump would face criminal prosecution because the acts were past the statute of limitations, but there is no time limit on civil fines for tax fraud.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 18:53     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we please, please make tax fraud by plutocrats a major issue? I get that many can’t get beyond Trump-hatred, but think of how much better this country would be if these major tax frauds (and legal tax avoidance) were largely things of the past!


lol

is that really your takeaway here?


When Capone was finally taken down it was for tax evasion. Despite all of Capone's other crimes, that is the one that did him in.

This will most likely be Trump's downfall as well, so yeah, it's important.


LOL no way. Tax code has so many loop wholes and dodges it is very hard to say anything is against the law. The laws are written by the rich for the very rich.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 18:45     Subject: Re:Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Will they care that he tried to change his father’s will to benefit himself when his father was suffering from dementia?

This is consistent with what we knew before the election- that he got his father to change his will to disinherit the children of his older brother who died from alcoholism. When they sued for their share of the family estate he retaliated by taking them off the company’s medical policy even though his nephew had recently become the father of a baby with cerebral palsy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/501554/
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 18:09     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:The taxpayers made Trump rich. What a country.


He is the ultimate welfare queen.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 17:48     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
The taxpayers made Trump rich. What a country.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 17:29     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting background on how the story was developed. One initial lead was from a search for "mortgage receivable" and "Trump" which coughed up a disclosure form from (inactive senior) Third Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Maryanne (Trump) Barry.

She seems to have been a beneficiary of the "All County Supply & Maintenance" scheme wherein All County, owned by the Trump kids, would purchase supplies for Fred's buildings, mark up the bill, and then bill Fred. In that way, Fred could transfer money to his kids without paying estate taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/insider/donald-trump-fred-tax-schemes-wealth.html



Let her go down, too. Let them all go down. At this point I want heads on stakes. I hate these grifting thieves so much.


So Trump can appoint a replacement who is younger and worse?


She’s 84 and inactive.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 17:27     Subject: Re:Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Trump's supporters don't give a crap. As he once said, he could shoot someone and they'd still support him. Given everything he's done since elected, he's right.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 16:03     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
If he gets arrested for crimes, what happens to the presidency? Do we get Pence? Do we have to go through impeachment?
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 15:47     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:Watching cable now...Trump had $1M by age 8. What a "self-made" man. People in hick states bought his line of "self-made" ...hook, line and sinker.


He said he was a self-made man, nothing about being a self-made boy.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 15:44     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we please, please make tax fraud by plutocrats a major issue? I get that many can’t get beyond Trump-hatred, but think of how much better this country would be if these major tax frauds (and legal tax avoidance) were largely things of the past!


lol

is that really your takeaway here?


When Capone was finally taken down it was for tax evasion. Despite all of Capone's other crimes, that is the one that did him in.

This will most likely be Trump's downfall as well, so yeah, it's important.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2018 15:41     Subject: Blockbuster NY Times Investigation - Trump's Tax Schemes To Gain Riches From His Father
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting background on how the story was developed. One initial lead was from a search for "mortgage receivable" and "Trump" which coughed up a disclosure form from (inactive senior) Third Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Maryanne (Trump) Barry.

She seems to have been a beneficiary of the "All County Supply & Maintenance" scheme wherein All County, owned by the Trump kids, would purchase supplies for Fred's buildings, mark up the bill, and then bill Fred. In that way, Fred could transfer money to his kids without paying estate taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/insider/donald-trump-fred-tax-schemes-wealth.html



Let her go down, too. Let them all go down. At this point I want heads on stakes. I hate these grifting thieves so much.


So Trump can appoint a replacement who is younger and worse?