Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 17:24     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lived in 22207 for awhile as a child and as an adult I have worked in an elementary school with similar demographics for quite a few years, in different grade classrooms throughout the school.

While I have seen the phenomenon of students being the only, or one of only two, students of color in a classroom, I have never seen or heard about students of color being treated the way the OP describes. I am not saying it couldn't happen, but I am very confident that if such deplorable behavior happened it would be nipped in the bud immediately by staff and admin. Immediately. It would not be tolerated for five minutes, once it was known.

The only way this behavior could continue would be if the student did not report, or the parents did not raise hell about it. Hard to imagine either scenario in my experience.

While I would have tough time deciding whether to send my child to a school where they were such a small minority (if I were a minority, which I'm not) I would not have a tough time dealing with any situation in which my kid was being treated badly for any reason, especially racism.

I also think it is unfair to characterize the families in 22207 as a group to be avoided simply because they are white and UMC. That's a form of racism itself, obviously.


I don't think you quite understand what racism means.


You're right. It's closer to bigotry and bias.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 16:52     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:I lived in 22207 for awhile as a child and as an adult I have worked in an elementary school with similar demographics for quite a few years, in different grade classrooms throughout the school.

While I have seen the phenomenon of students being the only, or one of only two, students of color in a classroom, I have never seen or heard about students of color being treated the way the OP describes. I am not saying it couldn't happen, but I am very confident that if such deplorable behavior happened it would be nipped in the bud immediately by staff and admin. Immediately. It would not be tolerated for five minutes, once it was known.

The only way this behavior could continue would be if the student did not report, or the parents did not raise hell about it. Hard to imagine either scenario in my experience.

While I would have tough time deciding whether to send my child to a school where they were such a small minority (if I were a minority, which I'm not) I would not have a tough time dealing with any situation in which my kid was being treated badly for any reason, especially racism.

I also think it is unfair to characterize the families in 22207 as a group to be avoided simply because they are white and UMC. That's a form of racism itself, obviously.


I don't think you quite understand what racism means.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 16:27     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

I lived in 22207 for awhile as a child and as an adult I have worked in an elementary school with similar demographics for quite a few years, in different grade classrooms throughout the school.

While I have seen the phenomenon of students being the only, or one of only two, students of color in a classroom, I have never seen or heard about students of color being treated the way the OP describes. I am not saying it couldn't happen, but I am very confident that if such deplorable behavior happened it would be nipped in the bud immediately by staff and admin. Immediately. It would not be tolerated for five minutes, once it was known.

The only way this behavior could continue would be if the student did not report, or the parents did not raise hell about it. Hard to imagine either scenario in my experience.

While I would have tough time deciding whether to send my child to a school where they were such a small minority (if I were a minority, which I'm not) I would not have a tough time dealing with any situation in which my kid was being treated badly for any reason, especially racism.

I also think it is unfair to characterize the families in 22207 as a group to be avoided simply because they are white and UMC. That's a form of racism itself, obviously.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 16:18     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Troll post, no doubt. Crazy woman, laughing at all the discussion of her made-up problem. She competes with herself to see how many pages of comments she can get. She does this regularly. Her writing style is obvious. She also doesn't typically come back and respond, just sits back and eats her popcorn and watches.


Jeff said there was no evidence of this being a troll, sadly. Someone already asked him in Website Feedback.


Maybe. But she's pretty good at finding new ISP addresses, it's all a game to her.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 10:54     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:Troll post, no doubt. Crazy woman, laughing at all the discussion of her made-up problem. She competes with herself to see how many pages of comments she can get. She does this regularly. Her writing style is obvious. She also doesn't typically come back and respond, just sits back and eats her popcorn and watches.


Jeff said there was no evidence of this being a troll, sadly. Someone already asked him in Website Feedback.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 10:28     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

Troll post, no doubt. Crazy woman, laughing at all the discussion of her made-up problem. She competes with herself to see how many pages of comments she can get. She does this regularly. Her writing style is obvious. She also doesn't typically come back and respond, just sits back and eats her popcorn and watches.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2018 09:28     Subject: Re:At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a longtime PE teacher and coach, I’ve dealt with tons of kids. I don’t know how to put this, but your kid is bringing it on herself.

I mean, sticking her butt out when she walks as a half-black kid in a 22207 school? Who does that? That’s just asking for 4th and 5th grade girls to mock you. It’s like the gay guy who tried to wear a Speedo into a Vegas dayclub. “Legally” you have the right to swim and dance, but that’s not going to help you when Security comes and kicks you out. Then what’s your damages? You had to swim at the Residence Inn pool and get a beer at the gay bar?

In my Master’s program in school administration, we talked all about how in practice different kids have to get different treatment if the school’s going to run smoothly. Nobody can write this officially in a book, but the “rules” exist so that you have tools to deal with emerging criminals. But if you’re a prominent part of the school, be it through volunteering at school or heavy cash donations to the PTA, I’m cutting your kid a lot of slack. However, if you’re an unathletic FARMs kid, then I’m taking a risk standing up for you against kids I know have parents who can get my boss’s attention.

Don’t be difficult. Tell your kid to start fitting in, and look for some other kid these girls can target. The girls are actually doing everyone a favor, helping weird kids fit in so that they’re not too weird to get jobs after graduation.


This post is AWESOME!
+1

Yay! Love the PE teachers and coaches <3
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2018 15:00     Subject: Re:At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a longtime PE teacher and coach, I’ve dealt with tons of kids. I don’t know how to put this, but your kid is bringing it on herself.

I mean, sticking her butt out when she walks as a half-black kid in a 22207 school? Who does that? That’s just asking for 4th and 5th grade girls to mock you. It’s like the gay guy who tried to wear a Speedo into a Vegas dayclub. “Legally” you have the right to swim and dance, but that’s not going to help you when Security comes and kicks you out. Then what’s your damages? You had to swim at the Residence Inn pool and get a beer at the gay bar?

In my Master’s program in school administration, we talked all about how in practice different kids have to get different treatment if the school’s going to run smoothly. Nobody can write this officially in a book, but the “rules” exist so that you have tools to deal with emerging criminals. But if you’re a prominent part of the school, be it through volunteering at school or heavy cash donations to the PTA, I’m cutting your kid a lot of slack. However, if you’re an unathletic FARMs kid, then I’m taking a risk standing up for you against kids I know have parents who can get my boss’s attention.

Don’t be difficult. Tell your kid to start fitting in, and look for some other kid these girls can target. The girls are actually doing everyone a favor, helping weird kids fit in so that they’re not too weird to get jobs after graduation.


This post is AWESOME!


Is this a parody of something you’d expect to hear from Murphy? The “longtime PE teacher and coach” part is aces.


I assumed something like that. Please don’t report it. It’s fantastic.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2018 14:01     Subject: Re:At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a longtime PE teacher and coach, I’ve dealt with tons of kids. I don’t know how to put this, but your kid is bringing it on herself.

I mean, sticking her butt out when she walks as a half-black kid in a 22207 school? Who does that? That’s just asking for 4th and 5th grade girls to mock you. It’s like the gay guy who tried to wear a Speedo into a Vegas dayclub. “Legally” you have the right to swim and dance, but that’s not going to help you when Security comes and kicks you out. Then what’s your damages? You had to swim at the Residence Inn pool and get a beer at the gay bar?

In my Master’s program in school administration, we talked all about how in practice different kids have to get different treatment if the school’s going to run smoothly. Nobody can write this officially in a book, but the “rules” exist so that you have tools to deal with emerging criminals. But if you’re a prominent part of the school, be it through volunteering at school or heavy cash donations to the PTA, I’m cutting your kid a lot of slack. However, if you’re an unathletic FARMs kid, then I’m taking a risk standing up for you against kids I know have parents who can get my boss’s attention.

Don’t be difficult. Tell your kid to start fitting in, and look for some other kid these girls can target. The girls are actually doing everyone a favor, helping weird kids fit in so that they’re not too weird to get jobs after graduation.


This post is AWESOME!


Is this a parody of something you’d expect to hear from Murphy? The “longtime PE teacher and coach” part is aces.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2018 13:12     Subject: Re:At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:As a longtime PE teacher and coach, I’ve dealt with tons of kids. I don’t know how to put this, but your kid is bringing it on herself.

I mean, sticking her butt out when she walks as a half-black kid in a 22207 school? Who does that? That’s just asking for 4th and 5th grade girls to mock you. It’s like the gay guy who tried to wear a Speedo into a Vegas dayclub. “Legally” you have the right to swim and dance, but that’s not going to help you when Security comes and kicks you out. Then what’s your damages? You had to swim at the Residence Inn pool and get a beer at the gay bar?

In my Master’s program in school administration, we talked all about how in practice different kids have to get different treatment if the school’s going to run smoothly. Nobody can write this officially in a book, but the “rules” exist so that you have tools to deal with emerging criminals. But if you’re a prominent part of the school, be it through volunteering at school or heavy cash donations to the PTA, I’m cutting your kid a lot of slack. However, if you’re an unathletic FARMs kid, then I’m taking a risk standing up for you against kids I know have parents who can get my boss’s attention.

Don’t be difficult. Tell your kid to start fitting in, and look for some other kid these girls can target. The girls are actually doing everyone a favor, helping weird kids fit in so that they’re not too weird to get jobs after graduation.


How do you expect an 8 year-old to know how to fit in? Her personality is her personality.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2018 12:46     Subject: Re:At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:As a longtime PE teacher and coach, I’ve dealt with tons of kids. I don’t know how to put this, but your kid is bringing it on herself.

I mean, sticking her butt out when she walks as a half-black kid in a 22207 school? Who does that? That’s just asking for 4th and 5th grade girls to mock you. It’s like the gay guy who tried to wear a Speedo into a Vegas dayclub. “Legally” you have the right to swim and dance, but that’s not going to help you when Security comes and kicks you out. Then what’s your damages? You had to swim at the Residence Inn pool and get a beer at the gay bar?

In my Master’s program in school administration, we talked all about how in practice different kids have to get different treatment if the school’s going to run smoothly. Nobody can write this officially in a book, but the “rules” exist so that you have tools to deal with emerging criminals. But if you’re a prominent part of the school, be it through volunteering at school or heavy cash donations to the PTA, I’m cutting your kid a lot of slack. However, if you’re an unathletic FARMs kid, then I’m taking a risk standing up for you against kids I know have parents who can get my boss’s attention.

Don’t be difficult. Tell your kid to start fitting in, and look for some other kid these girls can target. The girls are actually doing everyone a favor, helping weird kids fit in so that they’re not too weird to get jobs after graduation.


This post is AWESOME!
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2018 12:18     Subject: At my wit’s end-bullying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where in northern VA are you that the school is that white?

Op-22207