Nick was not the Guardian on the plane. That was some random dude.

Fred and Serena lied about Offred’s escape bc they want the baby. Her not being punished is just an unavoidable condition of that falsehood.

Nick is also an eye so he is “above the law” in a lot of ways. Unlike commanders who like to abuse their privileges, eyes appear to be more disciplined. It’s because Nick is an eye that he even got June as close to Canada as he did, yet he knew no details.

Nick was not caught. Instead of admitting she ran away, the Waterford’s claimed June was kidnapped because of her pregnancy. This allows them to keep the baby and avoid punishing June.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

if you think this show rings eerily true

...then you are an alarmist, similar to a doomsday [b]prepper.

There are good people on both sides of the two major parties. This book/show is so FAR from today's reality. I'm not complicit, nor a MAGA supporter, but I do know that this would not happen today. I will be highly irritated if the producers try to draw a straight line from MAGA to Gilead.

+1. Please provide evidence of something concrete that has Happened that’s similar to the show.

I've read a couple of critiques of Season 2 as essentially "liberal paranoia bait" and I'm sympathetic with some of the arguments. I'm a liberal, but Damon Linker wrote one that I found to ring somewhat true.

But then I read a NYT profile of Jordan Peterson, and how he thinks that we should return to "forced monogamy" and "patriarchy" because some angry guys can't get girlfriends, and it gives me pause.

Anyway, no one in my circle watches this show, so I've been dying to ask this question:

How did Nick not get executed when they were caught at the end of Episode 3? I just watched Episode 6 this morning and the implied purge story line among the Commanders is fascinating to me.

Anonymous wrote:Just watched. Aaah cannot wait for the next episode. Is this the season finale??

No there are 13 episodes in season two. Today episode six aired.

Just watched. Aaah cannot wait for the next episode. Is this the season finale??

Anonymous wrote:How do you people watch this? And 2 seasons worth? It's so gruesome. And the premise is just so wicked and cruel.

It makes Game of Thrones rated G.

I agree, what’s being done is cruel. But I remind myself that the cruelty isn’t completely fiction, the holocust was worse. Women and children sold into sexual slavery and child soldiers are treated with less dignity than a rebellious handmaiden. The Mynmar crisis... the North Koreans.

It doesn’t make me feel better but reminds me I live a pretty amazing life here in America, I shouldn’t sensor myself to the pain of others. After the first episode of this season I thought about stopping the show but felt hypocritical. I can turn a blind eye to everyone else’s pain but A Handmaids Tale, that’s where it’s all too much for me?

We all deal with this kind of storytelling differently, this is just my personal reflection.

This episode was great
I cant wait for the nexr

Anonymous wrote:This week I got to watch the latest episode during the day... the ending is GOOD.

I don’t want to give out a spoiler so early on release day but this episode was more interesting than last weeks but still had it’s dull moments. Hang in until the very end. I can’t wait for next week...

I just finished watching it too. I didn't see the ending coming, I can't imagine what's going to come from it.

I really liked this episode, I also won't give out any spoilers but I thought Yvonne Strahovski gave a great performance.

How do you people watch this? And 2 seasons worth? It's so gruesome. And the premise is just so wicked and cruel.

It makes Game of Thrones rated G.

This week I got to watch the latest episode during the day... the ending is GOOD.

I don’t want to give out a spoiler so early on release day but this episode was more interesting than last weeks but still had it’s dull moments. Hang in until the very end. I can’t wait for next week...

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't Offred say anything when she started bleeding?

Two reasons. One, because she knows if she miscarries, they’ll execute her. She’ll no longer be pregnant Offred, she’ll be June again and June will be killed. Two, her pact with Serena is that as long as each of their babies is safe, the other’s baby is safe. If Offred miscarries, Serena may retaliate by harming Hannah.

I think mainly she was having a mental break, and wasn't in her right mind. Kind of on an auto pilot.

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Anonymous wrote:This week's episode isn't as bad p.p

I actually felt a tiny bit bad for Serena joy

Does anyone else get the feeling that Serena doesn't even want a baby? She seems so consumed by her limited role in society and her anger that she seems almost forced into wanting a baby.

+1 to more backstory into other characters. I would love to see their lives before the regime change.

I think she very much wants a baby. They were trying for a baby even before the rise of Gilead and she's the only wife we see take an affirmative interest in baby Angela, show affection for her, etc. (in such stark contrast to Angela's "mother," who very clearly doesn't want to have a baby). I think Serena's rage comes from a lot of things, but I think part of it is that she really wanted to have a family, she can't get pregnant, and she has to go through this exercise of watching her husband have sex with another woman, and then watch that other woman have all of the experiences of pregnancy that doesn't get to have, etc., in her own home. And it's not even like she's allowed to have feelings about that, she's instead expected to celebrate this new world order and her and the handmaids places in it.

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't Offred say anything when she started bleeding?

Two reasons. One, because she knows if she miscarries, they’ll execute her. She’ll no longer be pregnant Offred, she’ll be June again and June will be killed. Two, her pact with Serena is that as long as each of their babies is safe, the other’s baby is safe. If Offred miscarries, Serena may retaliate by harming Hannah.

Anonymous wrote:

- June and nick. She finds out her husband is alive. She’s very much in love with her husband (judging by the flashbacks). But is still having feelings for nick. I know that infidelity/ affairs/ having feelings for someone else isn’t new, and given what she’s been through, all rules are thrown out the window. But still.... she’s fighting like hell to get out and find her daughter and husband. Is that the elephant in the room then, with her and nick?

You are right, she is now in love with both Nick & the new baby, and Luke & Hannah. Originally she was fighting to get back to Luke & Hannah. Slowly she is realizing that may be impossible, and she should just fight like hell for Nick & the new baby. It's a bridge she will cross when she comes to it.

PP here who posed this question. Yea, I feel like she’s in love with nick too. For a little while, I thought she was using nick (like, there would be a dramatic scene where she gets away and can’t save nick / has to give up nick (tell on him) / has to choose... and she clearly chooses her husband and devastates nick. Almost like she was playing his feelings this whole time. But the last couple episodes, it’s clear, i think, that she actually loves him.