Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:32     Subject: Re:Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.


Mueller won’t seek an indictment of a sitting president. That battle would only result in legal proceedings and delay. He will lay out his evidence to the House for Articles of Impeachment.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:30     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:It is time for Don Jr. and Jared to receive indictments. Ivanka too for her work in Azerbaijan.



Mueller is focused on obstruction. He’s just starting with money laundering and FCPA.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:29     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

1. Deny by claiming it’s fake news.

2. Assert that if it happened, it doesn’t matter because it’s not illegal.

3. Deal with next crisis.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:12     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:12     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:Are there any GOP patriots in the House and Senate?


There are plenty. There are plenty of Republicans who have called for Nunes to release his memo or stop pushing it. Pay more attention.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:11     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

It is time for Don Jr. and Jared to receive indictments. Ivanka too for her work in Azerbaijan.

Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:10     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Are there any GOP patriots in the House and Senate?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:10     Subject: Re:Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 09:02     Subject: Re:Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.


Of Trump testifies before a grand jury, it would likely not be in secret. We won’t know what is said. Except Trump will be instructed not to talk. And will then talk.


1. Trump has two options. Either be interviewed in accordance with some ground rules negotiated by counsel or face a subpoena. Trump’s stunt before leaving for Davos, together with this bombshell, just gave away most of the little leverage that he might have had.

2. Grand jury proceedings are secret and the SC isn’t going to leak any testimony.

3. Trump doesn’t want to have to swear an oath and testify before a panel of DC residents who he considers beneath him, particularly in the wake of his trip to Davos. In his mind, he’s a brilliant world leader.

4. Trump has no real options. He can reign ignorance when confronted with testimony and other evidence. But he’s the smartest man in the world with a good brain and the best words. He can take the Fifth. However, he claims he’s cooperating fully and it pretty much seals doubt about his innocence. He would claim witch hunt, Mueller is mad about some greens fees, wilmerHale, etc. Or he can ignore the subpoena and take his chances that the House doesn’t impeach in the short term. This pretty much guarantees Congress flips in November. Finally, he can try to negotiate a plea in exchange for resigning. Meanwhile, Javanka and Don Jr. are left twisting in the wind.

All of these are terrible in terms of our nation.



Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 08:50     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait Republicans. Trump says its all fake news! Veer right, deny deny deny!


It's becoming evident that whenever Trump says "fake news" that means the media is getting it right.


Fake news is Trump’s way of dismissing (and not substantive addressing) reporting that he doesn’t like.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 08:34     Subject: Re:Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.


Of Trump testifies before a grand jury, it would likely not be in secret. We won’t know what is said. Except Trump will be instructed not to talk. And will then talk.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 08:31     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:McGahn, Priebus and Bannon all share the same defense counsel. Why? They are all getting immunity in exchange for testimony. And they just kneecapped Cheetolini.


Bingo! I was going to say that. The story puts McGahn in a hero's light. It' apparent McGahn is cooperating with Mueller but they all share the same lawyer. So they've all flipped?


If they share the same lawyer, the probably have a joint defense agreement. Otherwise, massive conflict of interest.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 08:30     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

It's not "fake news."

It's "bad news" for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 08:29     Subject: Re:Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:
I don't care if they said anything 'bad' about Clinton. The fact is, they gave away the farm in those texts, regarding information about how Clinton was never going to be prosecuted and she knew that before she was interviewed, etc. Furthermore, they mention higher-ups being involved as well. I'm sorry, but your narrative has no 'there there'.


Uranium One
Wire Tapping
Unmasking
Behghazi
emails
texts, 50,000 of them
Nunes Memo

These are all right wing conspiracies that have amounted to less than nothing. But yet, the right wing keeps believing the news sources they follow. At some point, maybe consider a different source of information consumption?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 08:28     Subject: Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

Anonymous wrote:Wait Republicans. Trump says its all fake news! Veer right, deny deny deny!


It's becoming evident that whenever Trump says "fake news" that means the media is getting it right.