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This changes the entire campaign. And, my guess, is that Jones knew about it through his contacts in various prosecutors offices.

No it doesn't. It's only a problem if a Dem does it.

Exactly Bob Packwood, Mark Foley. The list of Republicans who stayed in office after this type of scandal goes on and on. Yet, Teddy Kennedy and Chris Dodd were forced to resign.

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Anonymous wrote:Other than it looks bad to you, I'm sorry to say, not too many people will find it objectionable.

So he likes girls on the young side. They were all 16 to 18, certainly an age where girls date and have sexual relationships without raising eyebrows. If they were 12 or 13, that's another story. But 16+...meh. None of them reported forced contact or sexual relationship. So...what's the big deal? He couldn't have known he'd become a public figure. I get that you think a 30-year old should not be dating 16-year olds, and that's certainly a prudent point of view. But as far as I'm concerned, nothing criminal took place.

One of them was 14. So it would have been illegal at the time. The statements from the women who were older simply provides credibility to the other claim. And, AFAIK, he has denied ALL the accusations.

The article is behind a paywall for me. If one of them was 14, that changes the deal completely.

Every other new outlet has excerpted it. It's there in full text on the al.com site. Read it--it's horrifying and very thoroughly reported.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359636-roy-moore-accused-of-sexual-encounter-with-14-year-old-girl-when-he-was-32

The GOP's favorite to win Alabama's Senate race next month is being accused of inappropriate sexual conduct with a 14-year-old girl in 1979, according to an explosive new report in The Washington Post. 
 
Leigh Corfman, now 53, said she met GOP candidate Roy Moore when he offered to watch her during her mother's child custody hearing. Moore, at the time, served as an assistant district attorney.

Corfman said Moore asked for her phone number, and that the two met on two more occasions. On the first, the two kissed. During the second, she said Moore removed his clothes, took off her shirt and pants, and touched her over her bra and underpants, according to the account in the newspaper.
  

That is so unbelievably sleazy.

I think predatory is the word you're looking for, not sleazy.

“He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”

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Anonymous wrote:Other than it looks bad to you, I'm sorry to say, not too many people will find it objectionable.

So he likes girls on the young side. They were all 16 to 18, certainly an age where girls date and have sexual relationships without raising eyebrows. If they were 12 or 13, that's another story. But 16+...meh. None of them reported forced contact or sexual relationship. So...what's the big deal? He couldn't have known he'd become a public figure. I get that you think a 30-year old should not be dating 16-year olds, and that's certainly a prudent point of view. But as far as I'm concerned, nothing criminal took place.

One of them was 14. So it would have been illegal at the time. The statements from the women who were older simply provides credibility to the other claim. And, AFAIK, he has denied ALL the accusations.

The article is behind a paywall for me. If one of them was 14, that changes the deal completely.

Every other new outlet has excerpted it. It's there in full text on the al.com site. Read it--it's horrifying and very thoroughly reported.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359636-roy-moore-accused-of-sexual-encounter-with-14-year-old-girl-when-he-was-32

The GOP's favorite to win Alabama's Senate race next month is being accused of inappropriate sexual conduct with a 14-year-old girl in 1979, according to an explosive new report in The Washington Post. 
 
Leigh Corfman, now 53, said she met GOP candidate Roy Moore when he offered to watch her during her mother's child custody hearing. Moore, at the time, served as an assistant district attorney.

Corfman said Moore asked for her phone number, and that the two met on two more occasions. On the first, the two kissed. During the second, she said Moore removed his clothes, took off her shirt and pants, and touched her over her bra and underpants, according to the account in the newspaper.
  

That is so unbelievably sleazy.

“He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”

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Anonymous wrote:If liberals really believed this and that it would affect the outcome, they would want Moore to stay in the race.

Either they don't believe it or think it is not going to make a difference in the result. Seriously, unless there is tape of him doing something when she was 14, most Alabamans would believe that this is fake news whether it is or not. The timing is too suspect for one thing.

Keep telling yourself that. The moral depravity that makes up the GOP base wants nothing more than to victimize these (now) women for a second time. WWMD? What will McConnell do?

Alabamans are not going to believe this story that has been conveniently timed to come out right before the election.

Whether it is true or not, a story from the WAPO does not carry any credibility in Alabama.

Oh, so when was a convenient time to out Roy Moore as a pedophile? i didn't realize for-profit media companies were required to align strategies with political parties.

Attraction to 16 to 18 year olds does not count as pedophilia. I get that you don't like the idea of a 30-year old dating 18-year olds, but they were all over the customary age of consent to kissing.

Thanks for the Breitbart POV.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal projection. So transparent

Whenever I use a projector, I like to make sure there is a transparency. What does this have to do with Roy Moore?

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t men behave? Between sexual harassment/assault and mass shootings, I beginning to wonder what is going wrong with men.

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Anonymous wrote:So, no blanket condemnation of Moore from the right?

Underaged girls aren't off limits?

I would like some proof before condemnation.
All it takes is an allegation to destroy someone. And, the Dems know that.
All these years, and this person never spoke up? #notbelievingit

Read the article, then. It's pretty well sourced. Multiple people went on the record.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, I don't think this changes anything in the race. It's not like Moore was a squeeky clean model candidate and this is a bombshell that will rock his base.

The people who voted for him in the primaries will simply say this is a left wing conspiracy, blame the WaPo for digging up dirt, and go ahead and vote for Moore just to stick it to the liberals who they hate with all their being. They may or may not believe that Moore did these things, but they just won't care.

Shorter version: it’s Alabama.

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Anonymous wrote:So, no blanket condemnation of Moore from the right?

Underaged girls aren't off limits?

I would like some proof before condemnation.
All it takes is an allegation to destroy someone. And, the Dems know that.
All these years, and this person never spoke up? #notbelievingit

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Anonymous wrote:Other than it looks bad to you, I'm sorry to say, not too many people will find it objectionable.

So he likes girls on the young side. They were all 16 to 18, certainly an age where girls date and have sexual relationships without raising eyebrows. If they were 12 or 13, that's another story. But 16+...meh. None of them reported forced contact or sexual relationship. So...what's the big deal? He couldn't have known he'd become a public figure. I get that you think a 30-year old should not be dating 16-year olds, and that's certainly a prudent point of view. But as far as I'm concerned, nothing criminal took place.

One of them was 14. So it would have been illegal at the time. The statements from the women who were older simply provides credibility to the other claim. And, AFAIK, he has denied ALL the accusations.

The article is behind a paywall for me. If one of them was 14, that changes the deal completely.

Every other new outlet has excerpted it. It's there in full text on the al.com site. Read it--it's horrifying and very thoroughly reported.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359636-roy-moore-accused-of-sexual-encounter-with-14-year-old-girl-when-he-was-32

The GOP's favorite to win Alabama's Senate race next month is being accused of inappropriate sexual conduct with a 14-year-old girl in 1979, according to an explosive new report in The Washington Post. 
 
Leigh Corfman, now 53, said she met GOP candidate Roy Moore when he offered to watch her during her mother's child custody hearing. Moore, at the time, served as an assistant district attorney.

Corfman said Moore asked for her phone number, and that the two met on two more occasions. On the first, the two kissed. During the second, she said Moore removed his clothes, took off her shirt and pants, and touched her over her bra and underpants, according to the account in the newspaper.
  

That is so unbelievably sleazy.

Aside from Corfman, three other women interviewed by The Washington Post in recent weeks say Moore pursued them when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s, episodes they say they found flattering at the time, but troubling as they got older. None of the women say that Moore forced them into any sort of relationship or sexual contact.
Wendy Miller says she was 14 and working as a Santa’s helper at the Gadsden Mall when Moore first approached her, and 16 when he asked her on dates, which her mother forbade. Debbie Wesson Gibson says she was 17 when Moore spoke to her high school civics class and asked her out on the first of several dates that did not progress beyond kissing. Gloria Thacker Deason says she was an 18-year-old cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates that included bottles of Mateus Rosé wine. The legal drinking age in Alabama was 19.