Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 16:16     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

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Anonymous wrote:Really was horrible that Hillary set such a bad example by calling people with different political opinions "deplorable." Now she's got half of the liberal sheep doing the same thing. They think it's smart to double down on the behavior that cost them the election. So stupid.

Please provide the full quote, in context, in which HRC characterized all of Trump's voters as "deplorable."

Still waiting.

....."you could put half the Trump supporters into a basket of deplorables," and then she went on to accuse that half of being racists, homophobes, xenophobes, Islamophobes, you name it.

Twist it around however you want to try and excuse that, but that idiotic moment was just another example of her bad judgment. (Running up the popular vote in CA and bypassing swing states was another.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables.html

You people really are physiologically incapable of being honest, aren't you?

http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/

(bold added for clarity)

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket ... are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

I KNEW you would try to defend her remarks. Twist it however you want, but she said generally speaking, you could put HALF the Trump supporters into a basket of deplorables. Then she went on to talk about the other half, who feel that nobody care a out them. But she still called HALF of Trump supporters racists, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophic - you name it.

"Twist it?" I posted the full quote. Period. How dumb are you?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 09:31     Subject: An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Why is this still a debate? She didn't get the Wallace voters, and she is a woman. And she mocked and shimmied at Trump during the debates. Like it or not, she is unappealing to certain voter, heck even my super liberal/feminist SIL actually wanted a different democratic candidate during primaries.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 09:23     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

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Nice work? Now the only thing remembered about the women's march is pink
pussy hats and vagina costumes?

I prefer the women's marches that got suffrage for women, created laws to end racial and workplace discrimination and gave women equal
opportunities in the labor force.



Don't forget the boomers that broke into all male colleges and occupations.


Sadly, we need to continue to push for those things given the misogynistic, racist, f*cking insane person you put in the White House. Women's rights, racial equality, LGBTQ, etc.

These people are trying to make the world a better place. You're just an a$$hole.




And learn how to reply, Dotard.




Well aren't you just the sweetest little thing. Your parents (although they are clearly divorced and really didn't want you anyway) must be puzzled by what they created



What's that, Dotard? Don't like to be called out for being an a$$hole? Nice work putting us back 30+ years. That's on you.


Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 09:20     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Nice work? Now the only thing remembered about the women's march is pink
pussy hats and vagina costumes?

I prefer the women's marches that got suffrage for women, created laws to end racial and workplace discrimination and gave women equal
opportunities in the labor force.



Don't forget the boomers that broke into all male colleges and occupations.


Sadly, we need to continue to push for those things given the misogynistic, racist, f*cking insane person you put in the White House. Women's rights, racial equality, LGBTQ, etc.

These people are trying to make the world a better place. You're just an a$$hole.




And learn how to reply, Dotard.




Well aren't you just the sweetest little thing. Your parents (although they are clearly divorced and really didn't want you anyway) must be puzzled by what they created
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 09:07     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

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Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.


Well, for starters, you don't call anyone who disagrees with you "deplorable".



Oh, please - that is the one thing Hillary was 100% correct about. If you can't see that the trump administration is truly deplorable than you are beyond hope.


It's different calling Trump and his cronies deplorable. It's reasonable to attack your opponent and he has earned his criticism. Hillary attacked voters. She called voters deplorable. Even at her 25% estimate, it's more like less than 1% (southern poverty law center statistics) and actually identical to the number of racists in the Democratic Party, unless you believe you have none.

Agree! She falsely accused 25% of Americans as being Nazis and KKK sympathizers, setting up a hateful, accustatory, and FALSE attitude toward voters who didn't want to choose her - and we see it being followed by delusional liberals to this day. That is what is truly deplorable.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 09:02     Subject: An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Anonymous wrote:Madonna went way over the top.

But we are seeing the seeds of an authoritarian state. If you are not understanding that, then you need to revisit history and read up about it. I would suggest Sarah Kendzior, who has been spot on from before the election to today.

I see no such results. I see a prez who is strong against enemies, a drop in illegals crossing the border, a solid SCOTUS not tilted to liberal activism, and the very likelihood if a corporate tax decrease to make is globally competitive, to name a few.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 09:00     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.


Well, for starters, you don't call anyone who disagrees with you "deplorable".



Oh, please - that is the one thing Hillary was 100% correct about. If you can't see that the trump administration is truly deplorable than you are beyond hope.


It's different calling Trump and his cronies deplorable. It's reasonable to attack your opponent and he has earned his criticism. Hillary attacked voters. She called voters deplorable. Even at her 25% estimate, it's more like less than 1% (southern poverty law center statistics) and actually identical to the number of racists in the Democratic Party, unless you believe you have none.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 08:41     Subject: An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Madonna went way over the top.

But we are seeing the seeds of an authoritarian state. If you are not understanding that, then you need to revisit history and read up about it. I would suggest Sarah Kendzior, who has been spot on from before the election to today.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 08:34     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who watched the organizers on CSpan that day, know this was not a march for women. The women marching were likely sincere, but the organizers goal is far more left.

It was:
anti-Israel
pro-abortion
pro-BLM
anti-police


vicious attacks on the president with filthy and inappropriate statements. Ashley Judd went way over the top on Trump--comparing him to Hitler with the poem she recited. In fact, she called him Hitler. Madonna's statement about wanting to blow up the White House.

Many people attacked police and praised BLM.

Go find the cspan video. It was a day full of vitriol. Rarely positive in any way. Praise for the cop killer in Cuba, etc.

Absolutely. The more I see and hear from liberals, both on this site and IRL, the more obvious it becomes that the bigger problem with bigotry is among their ranks. Their venom and distorted values have become unbelievable. Ashley Judd was despicable, and Madonna could have very well been arrested for her remarks.

Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 08:29     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Really was horrible that Hillary set such a bad example by calling people with different political opinions "deplorable." Now she's got half of the liberal sheep doing the same thing. They think it's smart to double down on the behavior that cost them the election. So stupid.

Please provide the full quote, in context, in which HRC characterized all of Trump's voters as "deplorable."

Still waiting.

....."you could put half the Trump supporters into a basket of deplorables," and then she went on to accuse that half of being racists, homophobes, xenophobes, Islamophobes, you name it.

Twist it around however you want to try and excuse that, but that idiotic moment was just another example of her bad judgment. (Running up the popular vote in CA and bypassing swing states was another.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables.html

You people really are physiologically incapable of being honest, aren't you?

http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/

(bold added for clarity)

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket ... are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

I KNEW you would try to defend her remarks. Twist it however you want, but she said generally speaking, you could put HALF the Trump supporters into a basket of deplorables. Then she went on to talk about the other half, who feel that nobody care a out them. But she still called HALF of Trump supporters racists, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophic - you name it.


DP. "Defend" her remarks? PP just provided the entire quote because the context does matter.

Personally, I think her comments were spot on. Half? That was being kind. You seem SO OFFENDED about these words. Seems like they really hit a nerve for you.

Are you one of those delusional liberals who has convinced herself that half of the people who voted for Trump are racist? YOU are the one driving the division by your disgusting remarks.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 08:27     Subject: Re:An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really was horrible that Hillary set such a bad example by calling people with different political opinions "deplorable." Now she's got half of the liberal sheep doing the same thing. They think it's smart to double down on the behavior that cost them the election. So stupid.

Please provide the full quote, in context, in which HRC characterized all of Trump's voters as "deplorable."

Still waiting.

....."you could put half the Trump supporters into a basket of deplorables," and then she went on to accuse that half of being racists, homophobes, xenophobes, Islamophobes, you name it.

Twist it around however you want to try and excuse that, but that idiotic moment was just another example of her bad judgment. (Running up the popular vote in CA and bypassing swing states was another.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables.html

You people really are physiologically incapable of being honest, aren't you?

http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/

(bold added for clarity)

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket ... are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

I KNEW you would try to defend her remarks. Twist it however you want, but she said generally speaking, you could put HALF the Trump supporters into a basket of deplorables. Then she went on to talk about the other half, who feel that nobody care a out them. But she still called HALF of Trump supporters racists, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophic - you name it.


DP. "Defend" her remarks? PP just provided the entire quote because the context does matter.

Personally, I think her comments were spot on. Half? That was being kind. You seem SO OFFENDED about these words. Seems like they really hit a nerve for you.

Yeah, like where have I heard THAT insult before? Libs need to get some new material.