Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 18:07     Subject: New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Leave the name and use the funds to deport out the 88% illegal population
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 17:38     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Well, we'll see how the board interprets the votes. Given the number of votes for Marshall and Johns combined, I think it'd be disingenuous to say most of the voters wanted Stuart. The board decided not to have a run-off vote with the top two choices so there could be a clear majority. This mess is on them.


Evans and Hynes started this mess and probably have done more damage to the community than necessary. They started with a predetermined outcome, and tried to manipulate the system to achieve that outcome.

Had they just said from the beginning that they were going to change the name, they would have ticked people off but it would have been over. Instead, they tried to make it look like the community desired the change. The majority did not desire the change. Now, they have given Braband a mess to clean up.

Dollars to doughnuts, they change the rules again and have a run off because the results were not what they desired. And, to those saying it should be Johns or Marshall (two poor choices for reasons other than the people those names represent), the majority also did not support those names.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 16:49     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:
If they pick Stuart they will be picking a name the a majority of those who voted didn't want. The voters were all community members. If they end up choosing Stuart instead of JEB Stuart despite those results, it will be clear they really were just pretending to being open to changing the name, but really weren't.


Couldn't you say that about any of the choices?

Fact: Stuart got the most votes.
Fact: It is likely that many of the community in favor of keeping Jeb Stuart did not show up to vote. They had voted (and won) at the beginning of the process and been demonized.





Well, we'll see how the board interprets the votes. Given the number of votes for Marshall and Johns combined, I think it'd be disingenuous to say most of the voters wanted Stuart. The board decided not to have a run-off vote with the top two choices so there could be a clear majority. This mess is on them.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 16:17     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

If they pick Stuart they will be picking a name the a majority of those who voted didn't want. The voters were all community members. If they end up choosing Stuart instead of JEB Stuart despite those results, it will be clear they really were just pretending to being open to changing the name, but really weren't.


Couldn't you say that about any of the choices?

Fact: Stuart got the most votes.
Fact: It is likely that many of the community in favor of keeping Jeb Stuart did not show up to vote. They had voted (and won) at the beginning of the process and been demonized.



Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 15:03     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Why did we go through this whole process?

Sandy Evans always wanted to change the name. That is clear from FOIA'd emails. Hynes was also on board. (Please note that the Evans Hynes Institute received points in the voting!)


So, Evans met with students who were later connected with the NAACP--through Evans. Again, this is in the FOIA.

A survey was given to students. Clear results that a name change was not desired.

So, Evans, et.al. were not satisfied with the results and put out more surveys, etc, and moved forward with the name change by selecting an Ad Hoc Committee composed of Stuart community members on one side and the NAACP focused committee on the other. (This is all documented. MANY of the people on the "change" side were not members of the Stuart Committee--it had a strong presence from the leaders of the NAACP.)

Ultimately, the SB voted with the "changers" because of political correctness. They created a myth that it was named JEB Stuart to stick a finger in the eye of the AA community. Again, this was a myth. There are SB minutes which indicate otherwise. There are also FOIA'd emails that indicated that this myth was a desirable story to the "changers". That is shown with emails from Evans and/or Hynes with a proponent of the change. This myth has been repeated ad nauseum by members of the school board.

So, they voted to change with the recommendation that "Stuart" be considered. Just a generic Stuart.

Then they set up another set of meetings to vote on the name. Now, the result is not the desired one--so, the "change" supporters are now casting aspersions at the selection voted on by the community.

If the School Board goes against selecting Stuart (which is the fiscally responsible thing to do), voters will realize how little credibility and integrity these people have.

This will be the third time they have changed the rules.


If they pick Stuart they will be picking a name the a majority of those who voted didn't want. The voters were all community members. If they end up choosing Stuart instead of JEB Stuart despite those results, it will be clear they really were just pretending to being open to changing the name, but really weren't.


Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 13:56     Subject: New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Oy vey! I don't know what is with these people. Seriously.... Stuart is not an option, really. And there is no way Marshall can happen. BJHS (Johns HS) is a disaster as well.

The school board has never shown much good judgment to date... so I don't have a lot of faith in how this will be resolved.

I'm really surprised Seven Corners or Skyline didn't get more votes. It looks like the direct school community didn't care about changing the name. Seems those most motivated to show up today were those opposed to the change altogether.

Let's see how they spin this data into a decent name.


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive...."
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 13:37     Subject: New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Oy vey! I don't know what is with these people. Seriously.... Stuart is not an option, really. And there is no way Marshall can happen. BJHS (Johns HS) is a disaster as well.

The school board has never shown much good judgment to date... so I don't have a lot of faith in how this will be resolved.

I'm really surprised Seven Corners or Skyline didn't get more votes. It looks like the direct school community didn't care about changing the name. Seems those most motivated to show up today were those opposed to the change altogether.

Let's see how they spin this data into a decent name.


I thought PMS (Poe Middle School) was bad enough.

FCPS would be the laughingstock of the nation to name a school BJHS.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 13:29     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Why did we go through this whole process?

Sandy Evans always wanted to change the name. That is clear from FOIA'd emails. Hynes was also on board. (Please note that the Evans Hynes Institute received points in the voting!)


So, Evans met with students who were later connected with the NAACP--through Evans. Again, this is in the FOIA.

A survey was given to students. Clear results that a name change was not desired.

So, Evans, et.al. were not satisfied with the results and put out more surveys, etc, and moved forward with the name change by selecting an Ad Hoc Committee composed of Stuart community members on one side and the NAACP focused committee on the other. (This is all documented. MANY of the people on the "change" side were not members of the Stuart Committee--it had a strong presence from the leaders of the NAACP.)

Ultimately, the SB voted with the "changers" because of political correctness. They created a myth that it was named JEB Stuart to stick a finger in the eye of the AA community. Again, this was a myth. There are SB minutes which indicate otherwise. There are also FOIA'd emails that indicated that this myth was a desirable story to the "changers". That is shown with emails from Evans and/or Hynes with a proponent of the change. This myth has been repeated ad nauseum by members of the school board.

So, they voted to change with the recommendation that "Stuart" be considered. Just a generic Stuart.

Then they set up another set of meetings to vote on the name. Now, the result is not the desired one--so, the "change" supporters are now casting aspersions at the selection voted on by the community.

If the School Board goes against selecting Stuart (which is the fiscally responsible thing to do), voters will realize how little credibility and integrity these people have.

This will be the third time they have changed the rules.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 12:16     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Only the Volk from the Real Community should have been allowed to vote.


They were the only ones allowed to vote. How are you defining Real Community? Only people who wanted to keep the name?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 12:02     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Only the Volk from the Real Community should have been allowed to vote.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 11:47     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let’s be clear and truthful – The “outside sources” that have infiltrated this process are the NAACP and affiliates, they have been on a decades long crusade to “force” communities to change the names of streets, school, libraries, etc. and there tactics are unethical and illegal, using coercion, corruption, and threats to force their agenda upon local governing bodies (and the communities that they govern).

In this case they obviously and clearly forced the school board to vote for a name change even though the majority of the local community were clearly against such a change.

Anyone that opposes their views is automatically labeled as “racists” to shut them up, so everyone (including politicians) are afraid to even mention the NAACP and their agenda to rewrite American history.

The NAACP should be investigated as its methods fit the definition domestic terrorism and their “removing/renaming” agenda is the root cause of a great deal of civil unrest in America. This is not a harmless agenda, it is costing people their lives.

The majority of Americans are not in favor of glorifying the south or slavery, but to try and erase it in favor of an alternate view of reality is just plain wrong.

Slavery was part of the American past, a war was fought, many people died on both sides, but the North won and slavery was abolished. These are the facts, you cannot erase them.


So the NAACP somehow breached the voting system and added 1500 votes for Marshall and Johns? And no, you cannot erase history, but you can choose not to celebrate names chosen to celebrate and support massive resistance. I have no affiliation with the NAACP and am a member of the school community, and I voted for the name change. Only community members were able to vote, but keep driveling on about outside forces.


Exactly my point, if you check the voting roster you will see a lot of names where the addresses don't match.

These were NOT all "actual" Stuart community members voting.

This is how they operate...




There's no rational way of responding to crazy, so I'm not even going to try.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 11:22     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be clear and truthful – The “outside sources” that have infiltrated this process are the NAACP and affiliates, they have been on a decades long crusade to “force” communities to change the names of streets, school, libraries, etc. and there tactics are unethical and illegal, using coercion, corruption, and threats to force their agenda upon local governing bodies (and the communities that they govern).

In this case they obviously and clearly forced the school board to vote for a name change even though the majority of the local community were clearly against such a change.

Anyone that opposes their views is automatically labeled as “racists” to shut them up, so everyone (including politicians) are afraid to even mention the NAACP and their agenda to rewrite American history.

The NAACP should be investigated as its methods fit the definition domestic terrorism and their “removing/renaming” agenda is the root cause of a great deal of civil unrest in America. This is not a harmless agenda, it is costing people their lives.

The majority of Americans are not in favor of glorifying the south or slavery, but to try and erase it in favor of an alternate view of reality is just plain wrong.

Slavery was part of the American past, a war was fought, many people died on both sides, but the North won and slavery was abolished. These are the facts, you cannot erase them.


You are paranoid. Times have changed. Fairfax County is a much different place than it was 50-60 years ago. Names will change.

Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 11:12     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let’s be clear and truthful – The “outside sources” that have infiltrated this process are the NAACP and affiliates, they have been on a decades long crusade to “force” communities to change the names of streets, school, libraries, etc. and there tactics are unethical and illegal, using coercion, corruption, and threats to force their agenda upon local governing bodies (and the communities that they govern).

In this case they obviously and clearly forced the school board to vote for a name change even though the majority of the local community were clearly against such a change.

Anyone that opposes their views is automatically labeled as “racists” to shut them up, so everyone (including politicians) are afraid to even mention the NAACP and their agenda to rewrite American history.

The NAACP should be investigated as its methods fit the definition domestic terrorism and their “removing/renaming” agenda is the root cause of a great deal of civil unrest in America. This is not a harmless agenda, it is costing people their lives.

The majority of Americans are not in favor of glorifying the south or slavery, but to try and erase it in favor of an alternate view of reality is just plain wrong.

Slavery was part of the American past, a war was fought, many people died on both sides, but the North won and slavery was abolished. These are the facts, you cannot erase them.


So the NAACP somehow breached the voting system and added 1500 votes for Marshall and Johns? And no, you cannot erase history, but you can choose not to celebrate names chosen to celebrate and support massive resistance. I have no affiliation with the NAACP and am a member of the school community, and I voted for the name change. Only community members were able to vote, but keep driveling on about outside forces.


Exactly my point, if you check the voting roster you will see a lot of names where the addresses don't match.

These were NOT all "actual" Stuart community members voting.

This is how they operate...


Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 10:55     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, you ought to read the regulation next time.

The community vote is just intended to inform the Superintendent's decision as to which name or names to recommend to the School Board for further consideration, and then the School Board makes the final decision.

In a field with 73 names, Stuart got more names than any other names, but 80% of the total votes were cast for a name other than the name closest to the current name.

That's a fairly powerful argument for change, and the School Board would be well within its rights to opt for one of the other names.


+1
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 10:52     Subject: Re:New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be clear and truthful – The “outside sources” that have infiltrated this process are the NAACP and affiliates, they have been on a decades long crusade to “force” communities to change the names of streets, school, libraries, etc. and there tactics are unethical and illegal, using coercion, corruption, and threats to force their agenda upon local governing bodies (and the communities that they govern).

In this case they obviously and clearly forced the school board to vote for a name change even though the majority of the local community were clearly against such a change.

Anyone that opposes their views is automatically labeled as “racists” to shut them up, so everyone (including politicians) are afraid to even mention the NAACP and their agenda to rewrite American history.

The NAACP should be investigated as its methods fit the definition domestic terrorism and their “removing/renaming” agenda is the root cause of a great deal of civil unrest in America. This is not a harmless agenda, it is costing people their lives.

The majority of Americans are not in favor of glorifying the south or slavery, but to try and erase it in favor of an alternate view of reality is just plain wrong.

Slavery was part of the American past, a war was fought, many people died on both sides, but the North won and slavery was abolished. These are the facts, you cannot erase them.


So the NAACP somehow breached the voting system and added 1500 votes for Marshall and Johns? And no, you cannot erase history, but you can choose not to celebrate names chosen to celebrate and support massive resistance. I have no affiliation with the NAACP and am a member of the school community, and I voted for the name change. Only community members were able to vote, but keep driveling on about outside forces.