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Anonymous wrote:I highly suggest watching "Penn and Teller Bullsh*t" on organic foods.

HA! I'm the OP and I love Penn and Teller's BS. I am also really into organic and my husband has told me to watch this episode too (he doesn't care one way or the other but buys it anyway for me). We don't buy everything organic, just the things that I have read that have the most pesticides.

Also I work in health policy, and childhood obesity is one of my issues, and I saw the episode on obesity they did a few seasons ago which amused me. They make some good points and I love that they challenge my views, but I don't think I can go back on the organic stuff now. I'm too much of a convert!!!

Did you watch it? I am not pp but I also watched that episode - my first actually! I am still buying organic milk and if I find a organic version of a fruit or vegetable at Giant or TJ I buy it, but in no way, shape or form I get out of my way to go to WF to buy overpriced organic anymore... not after knowing that organic DOES have pesticides (it was the BIG reason I began organics anyways) and they are not the "less dangerous" (or whatever some PP said about it before?!), but sometimes even worst than the ones from regular food.

Also, since it is not regulated and they are not obligated to tell where the food is coming from, I found out in that episode that there are LOTS of "organic" food out there that were produced in CHINA! ... And other countries. Now, do YOU trust any "organic" food from China? Or any food for that matter? I don't.

For that reason I now take a more "relaxed" approach to organic – and I am pregnant!! (I thought it was relevant to say I am pregnant because I was very particular about what I was eating/drinking… until I saw that episode)

Of course, if I wanted to go through the trouble I could try to find organic food without pesticides (don’t think it’s possible) and locally grown, but not really....

I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE.

the response is as I expected. I moved to Cumberland, MD from the Denver area and am shocked at how difficult it is to find "clean and affordable" food. We need to demand of our grodcers to carry organic, and to label the gmo products. Our legislators esp in D.C. are bought and paid for my Big AG, Big Chem, and Big Pharm. Healthcare here is also poor as not much alternative medicines. Big Pharm I know has paid over $1trillion to keep marijuana illegal. But, in Co, once it was legalized, less alchohol and opiate consumption,,,and I mean legally.

Time to join campaigns or just write and get your friends to write and call your local legislators demainding food that is not poisoned. Also, educate your family and friends as people here who think they are so educagted, no nothing about gmo and roundup (again the lobbyists, the lying media).

Organic community gardens are another option in the city. If you can find vacant land, ask the owner if you can use it for a garden until they sell or use it. See if you can get grants to develop a local community garden, and with raised beds, you can plant a garden yourself. Buy a grass fed steer and split it with your friends or neighbors (need a freezer). But, yes, we must fight back. We are now the 2nd generation living less than our grandparents,,because after WW2 Monsanto etal started to poison our food, replace real food with chemicals flavorings and colors.

Mc Donalds came to be, and they are probably the first food vendors to replace real milk with powdered chemicals. and stil do. When ice cream only has to have 10%milk, as I understand it, then we are in trouble.

Has anyone stopped to think about the fact that Nature's Promise (and other brands) label their organic chicken as "fed all vegetarian diet" - as if that's a selling point? Hello?!! Chickens are not vegetarians by nature. Chickens love to eat insects, worms, and small rodents, and that is healthy for them! I cannot help but wonder how on earth Nature's Promise lists "free range" and "all vegetarian diet" right next to each other on the label. If they are free range at all, they can't possibly be all vegetarian. Am I missing something?


I hope I've pissed off at least one of you by opening this old thread. Ha ha ha! Seems to really get under some people's skin... like commenting on something non-recent is such a terrible sin. Bite me.

What is Nature's Promises address, phone number or email. It's impossible to find it other than being linked to Giant Foods.
Reply yoga2light@gmail.com. Thanks.

I wish I could time travel back to the ancient days when this thread originated! I hadn't yet made several poor life choices, and I weighed 20 pounds less than I do today.

Almost 8 years old. I think this one gets a prize.

OLD THREAD warning. That is all.

[quote=Anonymous]Which food is from China? I read about certain fish that's risky. So I'm always careful about that.[/quote]

I found some frozen Organic Green Beans from china, have to read where there from on label, I do try to get food items at least in US, or closer states, why should I get green beans shipped so far, they can grow closer

This is a very old thread full of confused posters and misinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the issue with Method and Horizon? Very curious.

I don't know what the Method issue is, but hard-core organic folks say Horizon (and other big dairy companies) is not a pure organic set-up. They meet the FDA requirements for organic, but nothing else.

Horizon uses factory farms. Gross.

Method will not list its ingredients which is suspicious. I don't know if there are other issues with Method.

Organic doesn't imply anything other than meeting the minimum requirements. Ever. For anyone.

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You can avoid foods from China by buying local. I thought Whole Foods supported local farms but could be wrong. I can't imagine that they import veggies from China though. How is that even cost effective? California, sure, maybe even Mexico, but China?

A lot of the frozen veg at WF are from China. No thank you!

Please give an example!

NATURES PROMISE FOOD LINE IS FROM STOP AND SHOP NOT WHOLE FOODS