Anonymous
07/20/2017 11:23
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
Give me a break.
Anyone can get a free education up to high school.
As for not having kids out of wedlock - you can get free condoms at many places and Planned Parenthood.
The circumstances and the environment are already there.
Anonymous
07/20/2017 11:19
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
I'm the poster who posted the Brookings link but haven't posted since.
Why can't we implement a required high school course (or maybe even late middle school) in high poverty areas that goes something like this:
Have you spent your whole life on public assistance? Do you think it totally sucks and don't want to spend the rest of your life that way? Great! Here's how you do it! Oh and by the way, here's how bank accounts work and credit card payments/fees/interest. Here's how you buy an affordable used car. Here is how you rent an affordable apartment on your own. But most importantly, finish school, do NOT do drugs and DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT get pregnant (or get anyone pregnant.) And I honestly think that very last part is the crux of the whole issue.
Why can't we implement a required high school course (or maybe even late middle school) in high poverty areas that goes something like this:
Have you spent your whole life on public assistance? Do you think it totally sucks and don't want to spend the rest of your life that way? Great! Here's how you do it! Oh and by the way, here's how bank accounts work and credit card payments/fees/interest. Here's how you buy an affordable used car. Here is how you rent an affordable apartment on your own. But most importantly, finish school, do NOT do drugs and DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT get pregnant (or get anyone pregnant.) And I honestly think that very last part is the crux of the whole issue.
Anonymous
07/20/2017 10:11
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
WTF???
Most poor people are WORKING POOR!
You and your wrong-headed, not factual ideas of poor welfare queens living off you.
Who the f*** do you think is living the high life off what folks get for SNAP or WIC each month.
Does it make you feel good to believe that garbage?
PLUS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS, KIDS, KIDS.
Kids have to be taught about how to make good choices, how to gather, retain, and utilize information. Do you think you are just simply a good person and made outstanding choices because you are innately a "better" person some poor 17 yr old? No, someone taught you, just like they taught me.
There are a lot of kids out here who are not getting what we got. Their are kids in crumbling schools with teachers who either don't give a damn or don't have what they need to teach the kids the best way possible. There are kids going to school HUNGRY. Study after Study has shown that hungry kids are not learning..too damn busy, I don't know, being hungry!!
And you want to talk about sexually active teens, do you know how many young girls are molested and become sexualized early and then go on to be sexually active as a way of acting out after being violated.
Yes, we as a society have a responsibility to make sure that we create a fair and just society for all people -- ALL PEOPLE. Not just you.
And for you to talk about people of color and poor people as if they are not people -- FORGET YOU!!!!!!!
This reads like a parody of a bleeding heart nutjob's post. How do you go through life dealing with all the INJUSTICE???!!!
Anonymous
07/20/2017 09:55
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
WTF???
Most poor people are WORKING POOR!
You and your wrong-headed, not factual ideas of poor welfare queens living off you.
Who the f*** do you think is living the high life off what folks get for SNAP or WIC each month.
Does it make you feel good to believe that garbage?
PLUS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS, KIDS, KIDS.
Kids have to be taught about how to make good choices, how to gather, retain, and utilize information. Do you think you are just simply a good person and made outstanding choices because you are innately a "better" person some poor 17 yr old? No, someone taught you, just like they taught me.
There are a lot of kids out here who are not getting what we got. Their are kids in crumbling schools with teachers who either don't give a damn or don't have what they need to teach the kids the best way possible. There are kids going to school HUNGRY. Study after Study has shown that hungry kids are not learning..too damn busy, I don't know, being hungry!!
And you want to talk about sexually active teens, do you know how many young girls are molested and become sexualized early and then go on to be sexually active as a way of acting out after being violated.
Yes, we as a society have a responsibility to make sure that we create a fair and just society for all people -- ALL PEOPLE. Not just you.
And for you to talk about people of color and poor people as if they are not people -- FORGET YOU!!!!!!!
LOL you can take the privileged crap and shove it
I grew up poor and made it without anybody showing me anything
Quit making excuses for people. Its time that decisions have consequences.
Anonymous
07/20/2017 09:47
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to do whatever decreases the likelihood that I have a child living with me when they're 30.
One way to do that is to let your child work ahead on his or her own merits and not by your connections.
Of the millennials I know socially or through my work in education, the ones that are the most financially independent are those who didn't have weedwacker parents clearing every obstacle for them. This includes my own college graduate. She notes how many of her old classmates still don't know how to manage their own careers.
Anonymous
07/20/2017 09:40
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
You clearly think that social policy is some form of altruism for the "remora" class (WTF??).
It's not.
If we don't at least attempt to improve outcomes for the poor, we will "bankroll their poor choices" FOREVER, in the form of subsidized food, healthcare, reduced economic power, reduced productivity, increased crime, and prisons.
If the government can sit around and do noting and "worthy" people will be fine, why isn't Somalia doing better?
You may have unwittingly solved the entire problem! Maybe we can structure it like this: Congratulations, on the birth of your second child on Medicaid and your lack of employment you are now a member of the remora class. You have 6 months of assistance to keep you on your feet while you find gainful employment and wean yourself off public assistance. Members of the remora class who are unsuccessful after 6 months will be shipped to Somalia.
You are a sick, sick troll.
Anonymous
07/20/2017 09:39
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
WTF???
Most poor people are WORKING POOR!
You and your wrong-headed, not factual ideas of poor welfare queens living off you.
Who the f*** do you think is living the high life off what folks get for SNAP or WIC each month.
Does it make you feel good to believe that garbage?
PLUS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS, KIDS, KIDS.
Kids have to be taught about how to make good choices, how to gather, retain, and utilize information. Do you think you are just simply a good person and made outstanding choices because you are innately a "better" person some poor 17 yr old? No, someone taught you, just like they taught me.
There are a lot of kids out here who are not getting what we got. Their are kids in crumbling schools with teachers who either don't give a damn or don't have what they need to teach the kids the best way possible. There are kids going to school HUNGRY. Study after Study has shown that hungry kids are not learning..too damn busy, I don't know, being hungry!!
And you want to talk about sexually active teens, do you know how many young girls are molested and become sexualized early and then go on to be sexually active as a way of acting out after being violated.
Yes, we as a society have a responsibility to make sure that we create a fair and just society for all people -- ALL PEOPLE. Not just you.
And for you to talk about people of color and poor people as if they are not people -- FORGET YOU!!!!!!!
Anonymous
07/20/2017 09:35
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
You clearly think that social policy is some form of altruism for the "remora" class (WTF??).
It's not.
If we don't at least attempt to improve outcomes for the poor, we will "bankroll their poor choices" FOREVER, in the form of subsidized food, healthcare, reduced economic power, reduced productivity, increased crime, and prisons.
If the government can sit around and do noting and "worthy" people will be fine, why isn't Somalia doing better?
You may have unwittingly solved the entire problem! Maybe we can structure it like this: Congratulations, on the birth of your second child on Medicaid and your lack of employment you are now a member of the remora class. You have 6 months of assistance to keep you on your feet while you find gainful employment and wean yourself off public assistance. Members of the remora class who are unsuccessful after 6 months will be shipped to Somalia.
Anonymous
07/20/2017 09:34
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Huh? This is kindergarten, totally obvious stuff. What's arrogant about getting a minimal education, finding a way to support yourself financially legally before you procreate?
Anonymous
07/20/2017 08:56
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
You clearly think that social policy is some form of altruism for the "remora" class (WTF??).
It's not.
If we don't at least attempt to improve outcomes for the poor, we will "bankroll their poor choices" FOREVER, in the form of subsidized food, healthcare, reduced economic power, reduced productivity, increased crime, and prisons.
If the government can sit around and do noting and "worthy" people will be fine, why isn't Somalia doing better?
Anonymous
07/20/2017 08:34
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?
Anonymous
07/20/2017 07:24
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .
Anonymous
07/19/2017 19:16
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
How do you explain the D.C. types who are hangers-on?
The types who lead you to believe they not only have their sh!t together, but their renting in *your* neighborhood makes perfect sense for them, as they are going to buy the house from the elderly owner before she dies (for example)? Only to find out, they are poor schmucks like you (who happens to not be a poseur); except they expect handouts and brain picking and all the crap that weighs everyone else down with shallow social climbing?
Exhausting.
The types who lead you to believe they not only have their sh!t together, but their renting in *your* neighborhood makes perfect sense for them, as they are going to buy the house from the elderly owner before she dies (for example)? Only to find out, they are poor schmucks like you (who happens to not be a poseur); except they expect handouts and brain picking and all the crap that weighs everyone else down with shallow social climbing?
Exhausting.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 19:10
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive
Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.
Anonymous
07/19/2017 18:45
Subject: Are you a "Dream Hoarder"? I am, apparently
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/
Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.
Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.
What an arrogant ignorant directive