Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 22:42     Subject: How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
When are you people going to realize that Greatschools is run buy real estate interests and is not at all skewed towards the actual rating of the schools? Many of you follow it like its the Bible when in fact its a sham to make you buy into the neighborhoods where the agents have excess properties.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 19:27     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you compare the white students of Einstein to Whitman the SAT scores are the same, FYI.


Wait, so it's NOT something magical about the teaching or curriculum at Whitman that makes its students do so well? It's just that middle and upper class white kids tend to do well anywhere, and Whitman has tons of them?

This is not a revelation to me (Einstein cluster) but it bears repeating.

Where are you getting your numbers? If you look at page 19 of this MCPS report
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/160929%20SAT%20Exam%20Participation%20Perform.pdf
it shows that white students had the following scores:
Einstein 1804, Whitman 1917, BCC 1841, Blair 1960, Churchill 1880, Richard Montgomery 1873, Poolesville 1772, Sherwood 1669, Walter Johnson 1815, Wootton 1809


Not surprised Blair got the highest - been hearing great things about that school.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 17:13     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you compare the white students of Einstein to Whitman the SAT scores are the same, FYI.


Wait, so it's NOT something magical about the teaching or curriculum at Whitman that makes its students do so well? It's just that middle and upper class white kids tend to do well anywhere, and Whitman has tons of them?

This is not a revelation to me (Einstein cluster) but it bears repeating.

Where are you getting your numbers? If you look at page 19 of this MCPS report
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/160929%20SAT%20Exam%20Participation%20Perform.pdf
it shows that white students had the following scores:
Einstein 1804, Whitman 1917, BCC 1841, Blair 1960, Churchill 1880, Richard Montgomery 1873, Poolesville 1772, Sherwood 1669, Walter Johnson 1815, Wootton 1809
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 16:42     Subject: How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to swayed by the Great schools number feel free. I prefer to look at actual data.

AP data - Einstein - 1.8 tests per student, average score 3.1, math, science scores 2.9, 2.8
SAT score average - 1590
Graduation rate 83%

AP Data - Whitman 2 tests per student average score 4, math, science scores 4
SAT score average 1889
Graduation rate >95%

this is data from Montgomery County. You can argue about diversity and other factors but there is no denying that Whitman is preparing kids for college.

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/AP/2016_AP_150789.pdf

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/SAT/2016_SAT_150789.pdf

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/AP/2016_AP_150427.pdf

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/SAT/2016_SAT_150427.pdf

Sure, because money can buy tutors to prep for SAT and AP exams. Not so much for PARCC.


Of course - every kid at Whitman is getting tutored for SAT's and AP's. If you feel PARCC is that important then of course go with the school that has the highest scores. I am more concerned with my kids being prepared for college and being able to handle the work and to me Whitman will do that more than Einstein.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 16:22     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that all of those who feel that Wootten is diverse are probably white Americans. They feel comfortable with the diversity because their children are exposed to minorities while still being the dominant (if not majority) demographic sub-group.

For those who feel that 40-40-7-6 is wonderfully diverse, how would you feel putting your child in a high performing school with 40% black students, 40% Hispanic students, 12% Asian students and 6% white students? Most of you wouldn't consider that school and would find other reasons for criticizing that school and using that as an excuse to keep your white children out of it.

It's very predictable behavior.


Find one first, then we can talk.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 16:18     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that all of those who feel that Wootten is diverse are probably white Americans. They feel comfortable with the diversity because their children are exposed to minorities while still being the dominant (if not majority) demographic sub-group.

For those who feel that 40-40-7-6 is wonderfully diverse, how would you feel putting your child in a high performing school with 40% black students, 40% Hispanic students, 12% Asian students and 6% white students? Most of you wouldn't consider that school and would find other reasons for criticizing that school and using that as an excuse to keep your white children out of it.

It's very predictable behavior.

+100000
Great post.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 16:14     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that all of those who feel that Wootten is diverse are probably white Americans. They feel comfortable with the diversity because their children are exposed to minorities while still being the dominant (if not majority) demographic sub-group.

For those who feel that 40-40-7-6 is wonderfully diverse, how would you feel putting your child in a high performing school with 40% black students, 40% Hispanic students, 12% Asian students and 6% white students? Most of you wouldn't consider that school and would find other reasons for criticizing that school and using that as an excuse to keep your white children out of it.

It's very predictable behavior.


You may be right -- but I still think its a diverse school. And its Wootton....
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 16:13     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Well, well, well. I'm floored. Rockville, Clarksburg, Magruder, Northwest, Sherwood (schools that have historically been considered subpar to Whitman) all received higher ratings than the prestigious W school!


Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 16:03     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that all of those who feel that Wootten is diverse are probably white Americans. They feel comfortable with the diversity because their children are exposed to minorities while still being the dominant (if not majority) demographic sub-group.

For those who feel that 40-40-7-6 is wonderfully diverse, how would you feel putting your child in a high performing school with 40% black students, 40% Hispanic students, 12% Asian students and 6% white students? Most of you wouldn't consider that school and would find other reasons for criticizing that school and using that as an excuse to keep your white children out of it.

It's very predictable behavior.


Nobody has said "wonderfully diverse" about Wootton on this thread.

Also it's not 40-40-7-6. It's 46-37-7-6-4.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 15:54     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
My guess is that all of those who feel that Wootten is diverse are probably white Americans. They feel comfortable with the diversity because their children are exposed to minorities while still being the dominant (if not majority) demographic sub-group.

For those who feel that 40-40-7-6 is wonderfully diverse, how would you feel putting your child in a high performing school with 40% black students, 40% Hispanic students, 12% Asian students and 6% white students? Most of you wouldn't consider that school and would find other reasons for criticizing that school and using that as an excuse to keep your white children out of it.

It's very predictable behavior.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 15:38     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:When you compare the white students of Einstein to Whitman the SAT scores are the same, FYI.


Wait, so it's NOT something magical about the teaching or curriculum at Whitman that makes its students do so well? It's just that middle and upper class white kids tend to do well anywhere, and Whitman has tons of them?

This is not a revelation to me (Einstein cluster) but it bears repeating.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 14:15     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Well, well, well. I'm floored. Rockville, Clarksburg, Magruder, Northwest, Sherwood (schools that have historically been considered subpar to Whitman) all received higher ratings than the prestigious W school!


Well, Northwest and Sherwood do have ws in them. We'll have to figure out how to change the names of Rockville, Clarksburg, and Magruder.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 14:13     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
When you compare the white students of Einstein to Whitman the SAT scores are the same, FYI.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 14:10     Subject: How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
Anonymous wrote:If you want to swayed by the Great schools number feel free. I prefer to look at actual data.

AP data - Einstein - 1.8 tests per student, average score 3.1, math, science scores 2.9, 2.8
SAT score average - 1590
Graduation rate 83%

AP Data - Whitman 2 tests per student average score 4, math, science scores 4
SAT score average 1889
Graduation rate >95%

this is data from Montgomery County. You can argue about diversity and other factors but there is no denying that Whitman is preparing kids for college.

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/AP/2016_AP_150789.pdf

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/SAT/2016_SAT_150789.pdf

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/AP/2016_AP_150427.pdf

http://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/college_readiness/SAT/2016_SAT_150427.pdf

Sure, because money can buy tutors to prep for SAT and AP exams. Not so much for PARCC.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2017 14:08     Subject: Re:How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??
NP here. Well, well, well. I'm floored. Rockville, Clarksburg, Magruder, Northwest, Sherwood (schools that have historically been considered subpar to Whitman) all received higher ratings than the prestigious W school!