Anonymous wrote:fyi. "large" doesn't equal fat, I'm a size 10 but in great shape, I'm just larger than the average woman. I'm 5' 10"., I have broad shoulders, which have no fat on them but are still broad and muscular. I have a D chest.

in places that make the big roomy sizes I. much smaller but in things without stretch I am am I or 10

large isn't bad

You don't sound fat at all. But most women aren't as tall or have your build. Typically a 10 is overweight.

fyi. "large" doesn't equal fat, I'm a size 10 but in great shape, I'm just larger than the average woman. I'm 5' 10"., I have broad shoulders, which have no fat on them but are still broad and muscular. I have a D chest.

in places that make the big roomy sizes I. much smaller but in things without stretch I am am I or 10

large isn't bad

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I say this as a small woman, 2-4 is healthy! 00 though? Doesnt happen naturally past 16.

THis is simply not true.

www.extrapetite.com

This is an example of a healthy adult who is a 00p. I had a very similar build before I had kids.

My pet peeve and soooo ugly American is a) T-shirts with writing on it like you are a teenage boy and b) big white tennis shoes.

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Anonymous wrote:Cameran Diaz, Gwenyth Paltrow, Naomi Watts, Kristen Stewart, the Middleton sisters...yeah none of those women are considered attractive in the wider world Give me a break. Only bitter DCUM fatties would say they are unattractive and unfeminine.

Hello, they're *famous* for being beautiful! They're literally held up as the ideal female body.

None of them have good breasts. I hear some men like full breasts.

Then why are these women all celebrated beauties who are paid millions of dollars to appear in movies (Hint: Naomi Watts aside, it's not their acting abilities?)

This is a small list of women who are paid to appear in movies.

They are built like sticks. Only women with eating disorders think those are "perfect" or "ideal" bodies. They are just one type of woman. Nobody is perfect.

Yeah but think of all the A list actresses, of which these women feature among: you could add to this list Nicole Kidman (stick skinny), Natalie Portman (stick), Emma Watson (stick), Emma Stone (stick), Charlize Theron (stick), JLaw (stick), Angelina Jolie (stick), Kiera Knightly (stick), Mila Kunis (stick), Anne Hathaway (skinny before she had a baby), Penelope Cruz

Are you noticing a pattern here? Are ANY of these women larger than a size 2 or 4? Serious question, I don't mean that snarkily. There's only a handful of top actresses who are larger than a size six.

Not only are they sticks they are also white. They also probably are genetically very skinny and with diets and workouts maintain their trim frame. It isn't exactly a healthy frame.

Actually it is. If you have a smaller frame you absolutely should be a 2-4. It's what most American women were before the obesity epidemic.

I say this as a small woman, 2-4 is healthy! 00 though? Doesnt happen naturally past 16.

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Anonymous wrote:Cameran Diaz, Gwenyth Paltrow, Naomi Watts, Kristen Stewart, the Middleton sisters...yeah none of those women are considered attractive in the wider world Give me a break. Only bitter DCUM fatties would say they are unattractive and unfeminine.

Hello, they're *famous* for being beautiful! They're literally held up as the ideal female body.

None of them have good breasts. I hear some men like full breasts.

Then why are these women all celebrated beauties who are paid millions of dollars to appear in movies (Hint: Naomi Watts aside, it's not their acting abilities?)

This is a small list of women who are paid to appear in movies.

They are built like sticks. Only women with eating disorders think those are "perfect" or "ideal" bodies. They are just one type of woman. Nobody is perfect.

Yeah but think of all the A list actresses, of which these women feature among: you could add to this list Nicole Kidman (stick skinny), Natalie Portman (stick), Emma Watson (stick), Emma Stone (stick), Charlize Theron (stick), JLaw (stick), Angelina Jolie (stick), Kiera Knightly (stick), Mila Kunis (stick), Anne Hathaway (skinny before she had a baby), Penelope Cruz

Are you noticing a pattern here? Are ANY of these women larger than a size 2 or 4? Serious question, I don't mean that snarkily. There's only a handful of top actresses who are larger than a size six.

Not only are they sticks they are also white. They also probably are genetically very skinny and with diets and workouts maintain their trim frame. It isn't exactly a healthy frame.

Actually it is. If you have a smaller frame you absolutely should be a 2-4. It's what most American women were before the obesity epidemic.

Size 10 is now "quite large".... Seriously??

The idea that you need to be stick thin or toned to be attractive or "put together" is complete b.s.

As I say this I am thinking of an acquaintance of mine who is quite large. Her weight goes from large to chubby and lets just say she is not the most svelte or lithe woman around. However, her personality is FABULOUS! She is loud, feminine and loving. Makes friends everywhere she goes and has a horde of male admirers. She is about 5'6 but probably a size 10-11.She ALWAYS looks put together and STANDS OUT in a crowd because:

- She obviously has weight issues due to some health problem and not lifestyle choices. Her arms and legs although chubby are always toned, tan and strong looking. She is an active yogi and cross-fitter
- She never leaves the house without looking done up.
- Her brown hair is dyed a bright blonde and is always perfectly cut and colored and styled. She is rich so she shells out on fancy salons
- Always has a bright orange/pink/red mani pedi
- Always has dark eyelinger to highlight her eyes, and a bright pink lipstick and clean white straight shiny teeth
- Her clothes are all J Crew or Kate Spade and she tailors each item to fit her chubby body perfectly.
- Has a large shoe collection; wears wedges to the mall but always looks put together

The way she carries herself you'd think she is Kate Upton. She also has this whole "blonde bombshell" persona going on that guys find very attractive. For women, she is the cute friendly friend and for guys she is the fun blonde bombshell.

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Anonymous wrote:It is absolutely, positively possible to look put together for larger women, but it's easier for smaller women to do so. I speak from experience: currently losing weight after my second baby (size ten), I have to coordinate a lot more so that pudges and rolls aren't peeking out. As a size four, I could literally throw on whatever, a little makeup, and run a brush through my hair and look good.

Anyway, to look put together, a person must:
-have structured, clean shoes
-pants/skirt that hits at the right length for your shape and height
-flattering, well-fitting top
-typically a cardigan/jacket to pull it all together
-some bling: wedding set, cocktail ring, bracelets, earrings, necklace, watch - not all, but ~ three of the listed
-well-groomed, clean, and styled hair (or a smart wrap for your hair)
-facial hair (whatever that means for you) managed
-a piece that pops and adds character and dimension to your ensemble: a bright silk scarf, bold belt, oversized sunglasses, or statement necklace, for example

FYI: Size ten is not large.

Sorry, size 10 is large.. it's bigger than average.

Anonymous wrote:It is absolutely, positively possible to look put together for larger women, but it's easier for smaller women to do so. I speak from experience: currently losing weight after my second baby (size ten), I have to coordinate a lot more so that pudges and rolls aren't peeking out. As a size four, I could literally throw on whatever, a little makeup, and run a brush through my hair and look good.

Anyway, to look put together, a person must:
-have structured, clean shoes
-pants/skirt that hits at the right length for your shape and height
-flattering, well-fitting top
-typically a cardigan/jacket to pull it all together
-some bling: wedding set, cocktail ring, bracelets, earrings, necklace, watch - not all, but ~ three of the listed
-well-groomed, clean, and styled hair (or a smart wrap for your hair)
-facial hair (whatever that means for you) managed
-a piece that pops and adds character and dimension to your ensemble: a bright silk scarf, bold belt, oversized sunglasses, or statement necklace, for example

You know I got stuck at facial hair because whut? And then I remembered I had brows to groom. Haha

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Anonymous wrote:It is absolutely, positively possible to look put together for larger women, but it's easier for smaller women to do so. I speak from experience: currently losing weight after my second baby (size ten), I have to coordinate a lot more so that pudges and rolls aren't peeking out. As a size four, I could literally throw on whatever, a little makeup, and run a brush through my hair and look good.

Anyway, to look put together, a person must:
-have structured, clean shoes
-pants/skirt that hits at the right length for your shape and height
-flattering, well-fitting top
-typically a cardigan/jacket to pull it all together
-some bling: wedding set, cocktail ring, bracelets, earrings, necklace, watch - not all, but ~ three of the listed
-well-groomed, clean, and styled hair (or a smart wrap for your hair)
-facial hair (whatever that means for you) managed
-a piece that pops and adds character and dimension to your ensemble: a bright silk scarf, bold belt, oversized sunglasses, or statement necklace, for example

FYI: Size ten is not large.

PP here. I know it looks good on some builds, but I'm short and busty and muscular to begin with - I'm a dense four, normally, very solid, not willowy. But thanks for the encouragement!

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Anonymous wrote:It is absolutely, positively possible to look put together for larger women, but it's easier for smaller women to do so. I speak from experience: currently losing weight after my second baby (size ten), I have to coordinate a lot more so that pudges and rolls aren't peeking out. As a size four, I could literally throw on whatever, a little makeup, and run a brush through my hair and look good.

Anyway, to look put together, a person must:
-have structured, clean shoes
-pants/skirt that hits at the right length for your shape and height
-flattering, well-fitting top
-typically a cardigan/jacket to pull it all together
-some bling: wedding set, cocktail ring, bracelets, earrings, necklace, watch - not all, but ~ three of the listed
-well-groomed, clean, and styled hair (or a smart wrap for your hair)
-facial hair (whatever that means for you) managed
-a piece that pops and adds character and dimension to your ensemble: a bright silk scarf, bold belt, oversized sunglasses, or statement necklace, for example

FYI: Size ten is not large.

Yes it is large. Not extra large but it is large.

Small is a 2-4
Medium is 6-8
Large is 10-12

Anonymous wrote:It is absolutely, positively possible to look put together for larger women, but it's easier for smaller women to do so. I speak from experience: currently losing weight after my second baby (size ten), I have to coordinate a lot more so that pudges and rolls aren't peeking out. As a size four, I could literally throw on whatever, a little makeup, and run a brush through my hair and look good.

Anyway, to look put together, a person must:
-have structured, clean shoes
-pants/skirt that hits at the right length for your shape and height
-flattering, well-fitting top
-typically a cardigan/jacket to pull it all together
-some bling: wedding set, cocktail ring, bracelets, earrings, necklace, watch - not all, but ~ three of the listed
-well-groomed, clean, and styled hair (or a smart wrap for your hair)
-facial hair (whatever that means for you) managed
-a piece that pops and adds character and dimension to your ensemble: a bright silk scarf, bold belt, oversized sunglasses, or statement necklace, for example

FYI: Size ten is not large.

Anonymous wrote:Basically heres the rules for looking put together

Hair- Clean, healthy looking well cut and shiny. No frizz no messy ponytails or buns

Skin- Clean, healthy looking and blemish free. No ugly acne scars or zits.

Nails- Clean and trimmed with or without polish. If polished make sure its not chipped

Clothes- Clean, wrinkle free and well fitted. No oversized sweatshirts or yoga pants

You are absolutely wrong. You're saying that someone with acne scars can NEVER look put together? Stick to the things people can do something about like clean hair, nails, good clothes and shoes. But don't add clear skin as a qualifier -that's just not true.

It is absolutely, positively possible to look put together for larger women, but it's easier for smaller women to do so. I speak from experience: currently losing weight after my second baby (size ten), I have to coordinate a lot more so that pudges and rolls aren't peeking out. As a size four, I could literally throw on whatever, a little makeup, and run a brush through my hair and look good.

Anyway, to look put together, a person must:
-have structured, clean shoes
-pants/skirt that hits at the right length for your shape and height
-flattering, well-fitting top
-typically a cardigan/jacket to pull it all together
-some bling: wedding set, cocktail ring, bracelets, earrings, necklace, watch - not all, but ~ three of the listed
-well-groomed, clean, and styled hair (or a smart wrap for your hair)
-facial hair (whatever that means for you) managed
-a piece that pops and adds character and dimension to your ensemble: a bright silk scarf, bold belt, oversized sunglasses, or statement necklace, for example